should not be as compelling as it is, witchcraft
― lukas, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 06:00 (six years ago)
it's generative - been going for more than a week now. Someone at watmm pasted this bit of explanatory chat from Sean:
Broadcaster4utechre: all the synths are just playing whatevers in the frame at that pointBroadcaster4utechre: it scans the frame line by line top to bottomBroadcaster4utechre: r g b are 3 diff channels so i use all 3 but i put red stuff lower, green around the mid and blue for the cooler feeling higher stuff, idk i did it by tasteBroadcaster4utechre: and then combine the 3 and the output is the oscilattor outBroadcaster4utechre: the frame is actually 3 diff matrices overlaid if you like, r g and bBroadcaster4utechre: so i can use all 3 so i used a crossover to split them across the spectrumBroadcaster4utechre: 2 crossoversBroadcaster4utechre: so i put red stuff lower freq, green stuff is sort of melodic midrange, and blue is anything above thatBroadcaster4utechre: i did it to how the sort of warm/cool axis works around sounds in my head idkBroadcaster4utechre: yeah_: So, can you dial in colours, or are they chosen randomlyBroadcaster4utechre: its an algorithmBroadcaster4utechre: colour is p interesting it turns outBroadcaster4utechre: i like colour best of all the things i got into doing thisBroadcaster4utechre: the visuals are being controlled by certain events but its minimal interactionBroadcaster4utechre: mostly its about the image changing the sound_: I guess I’m curious how the visuals are informing the audio if the algorithm is taking the music into account. Is it a feedback loop?Broadcaster4utechre: its luminance across all 3 clour planes_: So i dont think s ean programmed key changesBroadcaster4utechre: yeah the key i just setBroadcaster4utechre: i can make it keep changing but u might feel sick after a bit...Broadcaster4utechre: all the oscillators in all the synths (incl drums) are reading the same wavetable are their respective frequenciesBroadcaster4utechre: it reads what's on the screen the same way a tv shows an imageBroadcaster4utechre: line by line, across and downBroadcaster4utechre: each full frame is one cycleBroadcaster4utechre: but as the oscillators are going at different rates sometimes the data in the wavetable changes before a cycle is completeBroadcaster4utechre: it interpolates pretty well though_: So the linear vector of RGB values is the wavetable? What triggers the envelopes?Broadcaster4utechre: am just using stock objects to do thisBroadcaster4utechre: all the sequencing etc is just existing stuff, as were the synths before i swapped in these oscillatorsBroadcaster4utechre: i mean the music is new but the patches used to sequence are existing_: ahhh yeh so there's still a sequence of on off in each synth yeh?Broadcaster4utechre: yeah the synths and drums etc are all doing what they would do anyway, just the wavetable in all the oscillators is changing
Broadcaster4utechre: it scans the frame line by line top to bottom
Broadcaster4utechre: r g b are 3 diff channels so i use all 3 but i put red stuff lower, green around the mid and blue for the cooler feeling higher stuff, idk i did it by taste
Broadcaster4utechre: and then combine the 3 and the output is the oscilattor out
Broadcaster4utechre: the frame is actually 3 diff matrices overlaid if you like, r g and b
Broadcaster4utechre: so i can use all 3 so i used a crossover to split them across the spectrum
Broadcaster4utechre: 2 crossovers
Broadcaster4utechre: so i put red stuff lower freq, green stuff is sort of melodic midrange, and blue is anything above that
Broadcaster4utechre: i did it to how the sort of warm/cool axis works around sounds in my head idk
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah
_: So, can you dial in colours, or are they chosen randomlyBroadcaster4utechre: its an algorithm
Broadcaster4utechre: colour is p interesting it turns out
Broadcaster4utechre: i like colour best of all the things i got into doing this
Broadcaster4utechre: the visuals are being controlled by certain events but its minimal interaction
Broadcaster4utechre: mostly its about the image changing the sound
_: I guess I’m curious how the visuals are informing the audio if the algorithm is taking the music into account. Is it a feedback loop?Broadcaster4utechre: its luminance across all 3 clour planes
_: So i dont think s ean programmed key changesBroadcaster4utechre: yeah the key i just set
Broadcaster4utechre: i can make it keep changing but u might feel sick after a bit
...
Broadcaster4utechre: all the oscillators in all the synths (incl drums) are reading the same wavetable are their respective frequencies
Broadcaster4utechre: it reads what's on the screen the same way a tv shows an image
Broadcaster4utechre: line by line, across and down
Broadcaster4utechre: each full frame is one cycle
Broadcaster4utechre: but as the oscillators are going at different rates sometimes the data in the wavetable changes before a cycle is complete
Broadcaster4utechre: it interpolates pretty well though
_: So the linear vector of RGB values is the wavetable? What triggers the envelopes?Broadcaster4utechre: am just using stock objects to do this
Broadcaster4utechre: all the sequencing etc is just existing stuff, as were the synths before i swapped in these oscillators
Broadcaster4utechre: i mean the music is new but the patches used to sequence are existing
_: ahhh yeh so there's still a sequence of on off in each synth yeh?Broadcaster4utechre: yeah the synths and drums etc are all doing what they would do anyway, just the wavetable in all the oscillators is changing
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 06:20 (six years ago)
this stream is absolutely brilliant, thank you.
― porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 07:21 (six years ago)
incredible. i barely understand the explanation but this
r g b are 3 diff channels so i use all 3 but i put red stuff lower, green around the mid and blue for the cooler feeling higher stuff, idk i did it by taste
seems like the opposite of what i would have done (i.e. blue/cool/low freq, red/hot/high freq).
― a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 08:00 (six years ago)
Looking at the visuals now I think the relationship might be a bit different - that discussion was from a couple of days ago I think
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 09:22 (six years ago)
thanks for the link - I tried to install two different Twitch apps on the smart telly just for this to no avail, but have had it burbling in the background on laptop speakers for three hours now
― Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 09:48 (six years ago)
saying the music reflects the picture prompts the question about who wrote the graphical bits.
― koogs, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 11:53 (six years ago)
“controlled by certain events but it’s minimal interaction” isn’t much of an explanation - I reckon it’s work in progress for a live show and there are probably sliders controlling parameters or similar
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 11:59 (six years ago)
Some seriously draconian moderation going on in that twitch chat. I made one cheeky reference to Coldplay when a yellow shape popped up in the video and was sent to time out for 10 minutes lol
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 12:20 (six years ago)
yeah someone said they banned the word "the" yesterday. i can't even figure out how to join the chat - do you have to be logged in? i can't figure out how to do that! just as well tbh.
― a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 12:22 (six years ago)
Yeah you just have to register/login to your twitch account
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 12:24 (six years ago)
I made one cheeky reference to Coldplay when a yellow shape popped up in the video and was sent to time out for 10 minutes lol
this was the correct thing to do except it should've been a life ban
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 12:31 (six years ago)
I don't have a switch account and no desire to chat, but this stream has been lighting up the day in my office so far!
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:00 (six years ago)
Graphics really remind me of those plug-ins w/ visualizers that you could get for winamp et al circa... '99? '00? Except with those they (claimed to) move to the beat, whereas here that's well, not that easy :)
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 13:14 (six years ago)
yeah someone said they banned the word "the" yesterday.
<3
― porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:38 (six years ago)
someone in the Twitch chat really has it in for occultists
― lukas, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:56 (six years ago)
where's the stream gone?!
― a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 07:39 (six years ago)
Yeah it vanished about 8 hours ago I think
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 08:42 (six years ago)
it's back but not the same
― lukas, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:14 (six years ago)
https://m.twitch.tv/4utechre
(same link as before, without the 'view previous page' pain)
colours!
― koogs, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:28 (six years ago)
It appears the visuals are taking into account the contents of the chat, so people are posting crazy emojis and ascii art which then is incorporated into the generated visuals which then alters the timbre and flow of the music. This is some seriously badass Ae generative fan interaction music.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:09 (six years ago)
Graphics really remind me of those plug-ins w/ visualizers that you could get for winamp et al circa... '99? '00? Except with those they (claimed to) move to the beat, whereas here that's well, not that easy :)― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre)
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre)
You are probably thinking of Milkdrop, originally a plugin for Winamp, which was spectacularly effective at creating sound reactive visuals that indeed were functional (used FFTs to translate freq ranges into parameters to adjust various plugins' visual states)
It was so efficient at what it did for its time and so effective with its conveyance of synesthesia, that I'd say only in the last 5 years or so have concert visuals really surpassed it consistently as a satisfying aesthetic accompaniment.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:15 (six years ago)
That was it, Milkdrop! :)
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 May 2020 07:50 (six years ago)
Milkdrop was so great. I wish Spotify had some sort of Milkdrop mod on it
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 15 May 2020 11:29 (six years ago)
https://www.autechre.ws/
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:57 (five years ago)
only a double? LAAAAAAAAME
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:12 (five years ago)
vinyl already sold out? damn
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:17 (five years ago)
Gah, that went fast! Great news though!
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:21 (five years ago)
I got an insufficient stock notice when I tried to order the vinyl, but I tried again and it went through ok
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:22 (five years ago)
1 M4 Lema 8:492 F7 5:563 si00 5:514 esc desc 4:555 au14 5:036 Metaz form8 6:007 sch.mefd 2 5:258 gr4 3:219 th red a 6:3510 psin AM 6:2011 r cazt 7:12
otm
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:22 (five years ago)
\o/on twitch a while ago sean said they had two albums ready; yesterday warp tweeted a link to the store, i had a look at watmm to see if anything was going down and someone said they knew someone at a printers who were prepping two covers, one orange one green...
― neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:23 (five years ago)
uhhh... meant script there, not strike through!
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:23 (five years ago)
Nice wee heads up ledge, looking forward to the green release too
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:24 (five years ago)
Looks like Bleep still has vinyl copies: https://bleep.com/release/202853-autechre-sign
― Position Position, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:26 (five years ago)
― I am using your worlds, woensdag 2 september 2020 16:22 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
Thank you, that did the trick
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:27 (five years ago)
HYPED
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:30 (five years ago)
S I G N
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:31 (five years ago)
just keeps saying insufficient stock for me
between this and the Coil reissue I've learned that I basically need to monitor my email constantly if I want these things on vinyl
vinyl on bleep seems to have sold out in less than 30 minutes. that's what I get for making breakfast I guess
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:38 (five years ago)
I am 100% down with a regular-length Ae album, I must say. Pre-ordered the vinyl!
Wonder what the name signifies
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:38 (five years ago)
Buncha hipsters!
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:39 (five years ago)
Lol Pom
Take Aaliyah's advice to heart Paul, try again. Worked for me, ordering the vinyl.
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:40 (five years ago)
Paul - go to bleep.com and try there. I got one through there. The link to preorder on Bleep through AE's website doesn't seem to be redirecting to the right place
Anyway, I'm glad to hear them do normal length things again. Been a bit overwhelmed by all they've done over the last 4-5 years
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:41 (five years ago)
Don't mind me, I'm just jealous because I don't own a record player. :(
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:41 (five years ago)
8. gr4should've called it gr8
― neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:44 (five years ago)
gr4 ft. gr4040
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:45 (five years ago)
some of the titles look similar to tracks from previous albums
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:47 (five years ago)
I know it's pointless to speculate but that sure looks like the Oversteps tracklisting to me
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:47 (five years ago)
Still vinyl copies available to preorder at Boomkat
I have a hard time believing that WARP are going to make this a particularly limited release, I suspect this is temporary unavailable rather than sold out forever
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:49 (five years ago)
Thanks for the tips, everyone! Got a copy on Boomkat before I saw the new posts, intl shipping and all. Oh well. Worth it!
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:52 (five years ago)
autechre
― ergonomic cher (P. Flick), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 15:10 (five years ago)