the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

Wow, thanks for that, tricky.

Also, nobody's mentioned Tectonic Plates Vol. 2 yet? It's probably the most comprehensive and cohesive dubstep label statement since the early Dubstep Allstars, IMO...

been obsessed with this lately, as effectively used in Joker's Sonar set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYCzZCmPypk

for reasons im not sure i still really like totally generic dubstep like what youngsta was playing on rinse last night.

So does anyone know of that track I requested an ID (Appleblim's Mutek set closer) a kind of beepy synth, arpeggiated, and vocals involving "rising sun". Any insight would be much appreciated.

enjoying the self titled Clubroot release .

Caspa did the essential mix this week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/

v unfashionable to say i know but im not very into that joy orbison track. maybe its just over myspace but it just sounds a bit thin. and a bit TOO well produced. polite almost.

I think it's nice but not revelatory. If I want that kind of thing I'll listen to "Serious Thugs" or the funky tunes that go for the same vibe. Not that I know their names, only their female vocal samples, being:

- "IT'S the new sound!"
- "KEEP'S HAPPENING!"
- "ey-EY-ey!"
- "... AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU!"

Oh, and Pearson Sound's "Wad" of course, which is at least nominally quasi-dubstep. Apparently Pearson Sound actually is Ramadanman, which doesn't surprise...

these should prob go in the "wonky" thread but this one's here and i still don't want to dignify the term "wonky"…but they're absolutely beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww0K7XW8WJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bIR_YmiuVw

Those are great. I like "wonky" that basically sounds like primo grime instrumentals.

have you heard much else by guido and joker, tim?

those are wonky ;)

newish blackdown post that has the internet going macadamias:
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/07/where-do-u-call-it.html

lol@this guy in the comments box:
"Blood how can you say mainstream dubstep has lost it when Snoop Dogg is all over it?"

blood, thats exactly how.

anyway, i get what mr clark is saying, but i dont really need to ever hear about 'ldn', feminine pressure, the zone of pointless intensification (is that the one?) or any of those things ever again. the sooner bloggers get rid of those phrases the better, no offence. (also see: references to 'wot do u call it'). but then i dont *totally* hate (well not all of it) the stuff i suspect he says is metal step (or maybe i do, not sure - i quite liked spongebob). im not totally sure how you can write off dubstep but not write off grime either, although i can see why a hard to the core dubstepper might. its easier to discard it completely when you love/believe in something so much rather than have an endlessly frustrating relationship to it.

Lex, I know most of Joker's "big" tunes ("Gullybrook Lane", "Play Doe", the Kapsize EP, "Holly Brook Park" etc) and really like almost all of them; from Guido I only know the Orchestral Lab 12 inch, which is only alright.

I also love Jack Sparrow's "For Me" in this general vein.

"only alright"? the 'orchestral lab' 12" is astoundingly gorgeous, really beautiful.

'digidesign' is the most essential joker track you didn't mention...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHOdfSHZgs

To be fair I haven't given the Guido enough of a chance, I think a lot of this stuff just makes me want to listen to old Low Deep tracks and other similar grime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCI6EObCXuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PpCwdyer2Y

I think the straightforwardness of the rhythms on the Guido 12 inch made me a bit inclined to underrate it a bit - obv the melodies are very pretty and, um, orchestral. But this stuff usually needs good and interesting rhythm programming to keep me coming back.

Tim, yo should def. give the Orch Lab 12" B side, Way You Make Me Feel, another chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZTcfMCsNu4

without getting super heady about why, I love Hyphy Mngo off the bat

good debate on that post i mentioned earlier -
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=96096&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20&sid=489c836b9783dd0dd56be07f089346cc

I heard a great mix by Ben UFO while following links from that Blackdown post, which ended with the Hyphy Mngo song, and I left the mix at work. Anyone know which one I'm talking about and have a link by any chance?

ah nm I found it - was in the pitchfork article. http://sonicrouter.blogspot.com/2009/05/interview-ben-ufo.html is where it's at.

oh god, the sweat/dante sounds sooooooooooooooooooo good listening to it proper on vinyl.

Also, once again: Boxcutter, this guy kills me.

i dont get the point of all these new tunes reworking old 2 step rhythms. that brackles one (lhc?) is quite interesting melody-wise for instance but i wish they came up with something a bit fresher on the rhythmic front. it feels too soon (and obv i know 2 steppy revival beats arent new) to be reviving that already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NHi0ios4I

crackstep

Mount Kimbie have a new EP out called "Sketch on Glass." On first listen it seems like a definite step-up from "Maybes", which i loved

^ I'll have to check that out....I love 'Maybes"

eve on a benga beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zShHmBOyr9U&feature=player_embedded

not great but adequate enough, not horrible i guess.

yeah i was surprised by that. be interesting to see if it takes off in the states. dunno why US rappers seem more into dubstep than grime beats though.

no silkie discussion?? it's certainly the best dubstep album that i can think of, i'd worn out his train wreck mix pretty well in the ages it took the album to be released but ive listened to it once a day since buying it last week and the first third of the album in particular is SO good. love all the little details, i swoon at the little 'ha- ha- haahh' three minutes into concrete jungle every time

shame about the bad vinyl pressing!

I adore Silkie and fully expect to adore the album but I haven't been able to source a copy yet.

For people who haven't heard Sully:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EygO2Al40sI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaUPzhum5-w&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itLvnHSxAMA&feature=related

into the first one

This is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYCzZCmPypk

makes me want the next junior boys album to have a major dubstep influence

Don't say things like that, you're just getting my hopes up!

Getting more and more obsessed with Joy Orbison I have to say. Hyph Mngo was a great introduction, but most of the other tracks just sound so, well, complete and timless. Wet Look, Smother, Tentative Bidding all worth a listen.

Something Or Nothing (2000F & JKamata Remix) digital release is finally out!!!

seriously obsessed with this and Hyph Mngo for the past, oh, 3 months?

"Love Dub" and "Hyphy Mango" are completely changing my attitude about dubstep, even as I realize they are outliers. My perception of it now is more as fertile ground than as a dead end.

narst>>>love dub

haven't heard it

need to remedy that

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=186660

just occurred to me that Hyph Mngo reminds me of Utopia by Jackson and his Computer band

Hyph Mngo (Half the time I've also been calling it hyphy mango) always reminds me of this (the first track, for goodness sake, if anyone knows what it is please tell me!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJs5YyfagY

The Martyn remix is Fever Ray is the best thing I've heard from him in ages. Better than anything on the album I think.

I preferred his 12"s to anything on his album.

On the mix front, have been really enjoying Oneman's Autumn mix as well as the first Hardwax podcast (DJ Pete).

I've gotta say, my favourite dubstep tunes this year by far have been the vocal reggae/roots influenced tracks such as:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v_f8bAGodY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_b_K16E524

I'd love to know if there's more stuff out there like this.