OPO: Underworld

Maybe it's time to dust off my copies of Dubnobass and Second Toughest and give them another try, the last time I listened to them I was going through a heavy "no rock in my techno, please" period, but maybe I'm older now and can appreciate them for what they're worth. I do remember liking the first LP when it first came out.

Also I had indie grounding but I came at "Dirty Epic" after being a big rave/trip-hip/d'n'b zombie for about eight years so I don't know that our perspectives were that different aside from the whole sideline of also singing classical music.

G. F. Stout (1931) argued that if epiphenomenalism (the more familiar name for the ‘conscious automaton’ theory) is right,

it ought to be quite credible that the constitution and course of nature would be otherwise just the same as it is if there were not and never had been any experiencing individuals. Human bodies would still have gone through the motions of making and using bridges, telephones and telegraphs, of writing and reading books, of speaking in Parliament, of arguing about materialism, and so on. There can be no doubt that this is prima facie incredible to Common Sense (138f.).

What Stout describes in this passage and finds ‘prima facie incredible’ is a ‘zombie world’: an entire world whose physical processes are closed under causation (as the epiphenomenalists he was attacking held) and exactly duplicate those in the actual world, but where there are no conscious experiences.

o, how joyous would that be?

i've never heard "dirty" - actually, there's whole screeds of underworld stuff i've never heard - but dan's description of what makes "dirty epic" so great is kinda spot-on.

"big mouth" is superb. i didn't know there was an underworld link. which reminds me: has nobody mentioned freur's "doot doot" yet, by the way? the 12" of that is a thing of some fucking beauty.

i only have the first one. good moments, but for 30mins of new Underworld, meh.

Always Loved A Film (Silver Boots) - Live at Lemonworld is amazing. had it on repeat for 6hrs now. Still loving it.

This is mostly because "Born Slippy" w/o vocals stomps all over it.

listening to king of snake on brand new technics in 1998

at 33 RPM instead of 45!

i was thinking of making a muxtape of songs i have digitized at the wrong speed but my 45 (instead of 33) "Freak Out/Starry Eyes" (LCD Soundsystem) is over 10 megabytes.

hey wahts the deal with the ymo releases with shitty vocal overdubs

never owned one

I guess I'm thinking of female vocals on the second half of tong poo

there are some weird (compared to the first three albums) overproduced vocal bits on the later material but I don't necessarily think it's all bad

tong poo is on self titled.... maybe its an american vinyl press?

IM DRUNK

heyooooooo

jumbo really is something

i found the 'big mouth' 12" a while back from when they were releasing as lemon interupt - the flipside, 'eclipse', is this amazing strung-out balearic house cut. do people know this track?

no but i would like to know it

It's between the first two and last tracks on Second Toughest.

great mEmoriEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHWV4B79TMc

the Everything, Everything version of "Rez/Cowgirl" is such a classic and maybe the high watermark of house music

btw the answer to this is still "Dirty Epic"

no it's "Mmm Skyscraper... I Love You"

I admit that is a compelling argument

There's a nice newish reedit of Eclipse. Answer is still Dirty Epic.

Made a (drunk) Spotify compilation last night. Had in my head that it was going to be "a CD's worth" but feels like it needs to be double that. What comes off/gets added?

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7r27URCXj8c9AaniHb2vj0

I would trade one of the Drift tracks for "Cups."

opo

8 Ball is my OPO. Agree above, but I would remove NUXX, both Drift tracks, and put in 8 Ball, Luetin, and Best Mamgu Ever.

Thanks!

I can’t see the list but I’ll add Custard Speedtalk just in case brolodu removed it

I've found it pretty weird to revisit the Drift stuff lately - I listened to it constantly leading right up to the pandemic so when I hear odd tracks from it now it reminds me so much of the time right before

x-post - ha, yes - it was suggested that it be removed.

Original track listing

Dirty Epic
Dark and Long - Dark Train
Juanita - Kiteless - To Dream of Love
Born Slippy (Nuxx)
Two Months Off
Pearl's Girl
Mmm ... Skyscraper, I Love You
Custard Speedtalk
Dune
Louisiana