Ministry "With Sympathy" C/D

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Yeah, places like this. Though I don't think he's gotten around to coming here yet... I keep trying to lure him in with the YSI threads, but I'm not sure he thinks he has time for it. He posts on Metafilter and a board called Music Abominations (which is mostly about jazz).
(As far as "language is a virus," I think I've just kinda accepted it as a truism... Certainly left me as a Laurie Anderson fan).

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

various lines from this have stuck in my head over the past couple weeks. "burning pictures of me head to toe HEY!" and "we went through the window, quiet as a mouse" being two i can't shake for some reason.

also, i'm surprised no one mentioned the red cassette case. it was always the easiest tapes to find in the box.

― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

we went through the window, quiet as a mouse"

Isn't it "IN through the window...."?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

perhaps, it is. regardless, i like the idea of jourganson being quiet as a mouse.

also, the chick who comes in during "i wanted to tell her" is so freakin 80s. that nasal-ly "you touch me bay-bee" would fit perfectly on an expose album.

― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

How'd I miss this thread last month?

Classic, of course.

TKK opening for Ministry would be wonderful, though I saw TKK open for Siouxsie et al around '92, and that was pretty cool.

Hm. What ever happened to Machines of Loving Grace? I saw them open for TKK at Shitty Gardens in maybe '93 or '94 now that I think of it.

― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

ha! that 'quiet as a mouse' line is the one that always sticks in my head too. thanks to this thread i have listened to 'revenge' about 20 times over the last fortnight.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

MACHINES OF LOVING GRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG

― Dan (BURN LIKE BRILLIANT TRASH) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

The best thing is that maybe 10 minutes after I made that post "The Richest Junkie Still Alive" popped up on shuffle from my iPod. I didn't even remember I had Gilt in here.

― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Gilt was really underrated when it came out. A lot of people thought there was gonna be another Jackie's Funeral, but it was pretty damn solid as a cohesive piece. I think I listen to it more than anything else (aside from All I Really Need's swearing mix, which is fun to put on tapes).

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

I saw MLG open for Peter Murphy back in 1992. Good times.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

I saw Ministry at Comiskey park back in July of '83 at this huge show:

http://www.police.cybercomm.nl/pictures/s19830723.jpg

I finally picked up a bunch of the Ministry stuff that Wax Trax was selling, after this show, including the Special Affect LP.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

(Btw, Simple Minds for some reason didn't play that show, which is why Ministry got the nod. At the time, Ministry were not a well known commodity in Chicago at all.)

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

People are talking about Machines of Loving Grace and they never get love :) How can people still listen to old NIN albums and not those guys?

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

wow -- sting AND al jourgeson on the same stage in the same venue at the same time. i'm amazed that the universe didn't implode.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

Maybe MoLG need their own thread.

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

i'm not an F-A-G

― Eisbaer, Sunday, 27 April 2008 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

Some of my friends went to see them tonight. I kinda wish I had gone, I listened to them a lot when I was younger.

― circa1916, Sunday, 27 April 2008 06:28 (eighteen years ago)

Still a brilliant record.

― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 27 April 2008 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

their best moment!

― cutty, Sunday, 27 April 2008 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not an F-A-G

never occurred to me that it could be heard that way but you are right

― akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

A cougar is more like a kitten than it is like a velociraptor but that doesn't mean it would make an appropriate pet for a four-year-old.

-- The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:42 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

heh

― latebloomer, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://cdn.channel.aol.com/amgmusic/artists/pic200/drp000/p082/p08248g85s1.jpg

― Romeo Jones, Sunday, 27 April 2008 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

the corridor, yes the corridor

― latebloomer, Sunday, 27 April 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

― Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

YES THE CORRIDOR

― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

FAR BELOW, FAR BELOW, FAR BELOW IS THE PLACE YOU'LL GO, HO!

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 30 January 2009 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

i'm loving al jourgeson's adam ant haircut/earring.

― Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

Whatever happened to the Other Guy in Ministry circa With Sympathy?

― System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:33 (seventeen years ago)

Al was on a VH1 Classic show ("Hangin' With", I think) where he was playing videos by his band and bands that he liked, and he actually played the above video, so I guess he's at peace with his hilarious past.

― Vulgar Display of Flowers (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:49 (seventeen years ago)

You're assuming that he wasn't hilarious after that.

― System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 30 January 2009 22:55 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, but he was hilarious in a different way.

― Vulgar Display of Flowers (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 January 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

[cue Butthead's impression from the "NWO" video]

― Vulgar Display of Flowers (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 January 2009 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

this fuckin record

― pretzel walrus, Friday, 31 July 2009 06:45 (sixteen years ago)

so great

― pretzel walrus, Friday, 31 July 2009 06:45 (sixteen years ago)

really?! must investigate.

― daria, actually (daria-g), Friday, 31 July 2009 07:00 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

You've got to work for your new role as the Boston Globe business editor

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2013 20:01 (twelve years ago)

two years pass...

CLASSIC!

― Turrican, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:32 (ten years ago)

Is it wrong that I actually prefer this album to everything that Jourgensen did afterwards? Taken on its own terms, I think this is a wonderful record. Not only does it slot in nicely with early '80s UK synthpop, it actually manages to hold its own in comparison to the best of the stuff that was happening in the genre at that time. Wonderful stuff.

― Turrican, Monday, 26 October 2015 18:40 (ten years ago)

I don't think it's a particularly surprising opinion to have; the collection of songs he put together on that package exist in a universe almost directly orthogonal to every other release he put out

(that said, #TeamTwitch all day every day; IMO that is a superlative album)

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 26 October 2015 20:31 (ten years ago)

Falls after the first half

― brimstead, Monday, 26 October 2015 20:48 (ten years ago)

xpost:

Yeah, I like Twitch too, but With Sympathy is one of those records I always find myself returning to!

― Turrican, Monday, 26 October 2015 20:49 (ten years ago)

WHAT HE SAY!?

LET'S DANCE!

*totally fucking absurd synth-trumpet breakdown section*

― Turrican, Saturday, 31 October 2015 00:57 (ten years ago)

it's alright, but I can't get with anyone hwo thinks it's superior to either twitch or A Mind... both of which seem more groundbreaking and involving.

― akm, Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:40 (ten years ago)

Falls after the first half
― brimstead, Monday, October 26, 2015 8:48 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, the first half of the album is wonderful, but I love 'Here We Go', 'Say You're Sorry' and particularly 'She's Got a Cause'

― Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:16 (ten years ago)

it's not groundbreaking but the songs (mostly) are just so great. twitch will always be my ultimate ministry album but "work for love" (as it will always be known to me and most euro-ministry fans) is pretty much my definition of perfect pop.

― stirmonster, Sunday, 1 November 2015 07:22 (ten years ago)

Great surprise to see Yvonne Gage in Shay Jones' role, three years after she made "Garden of Eve," one of the best boogie records.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOD5pxdZiyo

― Andy K, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:23 (ten years ago)

The thing about Twitch is that I can still detect some UK electro influence in it, particularly Fad Gadget.

― Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:16 (ten years ago)

I was surprised to learn that Flood worked on With Sympathy, actually... this surely must have been one of the earliest album he worked on, although not as a producer?

― Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:19 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

hoo boy, classic

― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:04 (seven years ago)

can't tell you how unsurprised i am to see djp in this thread

― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 26 April 2019 02:09 (seven years ago)

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