Skinny Puppy: Classic or Dud?

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HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY!

I'll actually be in town. Hmm....

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG I JUST REALIZED THAT DUE TO MY IMPENDING "JUNE BACHELOR" STATUS I CAN REALISTICALLY GO TO THIS SHOW OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

MY IMPENDING "JUNE BACHELOR" STATUS

Er?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The wife is going to be off at a sumer program for most of June = I can go to any random show I want! Too bad there isn't a Lard reunion tour going on...

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It must be said that the name "Nivek" is hilarious.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I am so ready for a burrito now.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"It must be said that the name "Nivek" is hilarious."

Well, having two people named Kevin in the band was proably too confusing for their acid-fried brains.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

no canadian dates, wtf¿ they're only from here for christsakes¡

cEVIN and Ogre have been living in L.A. for over a decade now? It's really easy to spot cEVIN at a show...look for the Klingon.

So, otherwise, WTF about this whole reunion? Who is in the lineup besides Krompton and Ogilvie? Who's taking over for Goettel (r.i.p.)?

(Note: Skinny Puppy were my very first concert ever. I'm somehow feeling really NOT into this reunion, and I'm not sure why)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

when i saw download it seemed dude from dead voices (can't recall his name right now) was doing the majority of dwayne's old role.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I never got to see them back-in-da-day, largely because by the time I could afford to go to concerts, they were breaking up.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, having two people named Kevin in the band was proably too confusing for their acid-fried brains.

I thought it was because spelling something backwards is "evil".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, you know Canadian English. Besides, their only other option was to change both of their names to Gordon, and Nodrog is a little too Iced Earth for them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hi, I'm Nivek and this is my bandmate Gnits."

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

There is no replacement for Dwayne as far as band members go, but they have quite a few friends contributing to both the new album and the tour. They were looking for a second drummer for the tour, so I'm assuming that cEvin is going to be more on synth duty than drum duty. But that's only a guess, because I can't imagine what cEvin would be doing when not drumming other than that. As the actual contribution of Bill Leeb, oh, excuse me... Wilhelm Schroeder, is debatable at best on earlier works, it's certainly not the first time that it's only been The Kevins and Friends.

― kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

The funniest thing is that "Kevin" is like the least "evil" name. It's not like Damien or Hunter or something backwards. It's Kevin=Nivek. This gives me the giggles.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I am surprised that there isn't some mega Vancouver show planned... people STILL talk about them there, and this is from people who were 12 when The Process was released.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dig It" is so CLASSIC. I even have an "evil" Skinny Puppy t-shirt.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

call me Recneps.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there a "good" Skinny Puppy t-shirt????

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.newmedialab.cuny.edu/laura/site/images/kokoro10_posi4.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

that is not a skinny puppy shirt.

― nosyd (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

WHY DO YOU HATE MR. BARRETT SO?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't hate the playa, hate the game etc.

― NadAgnev Yrrep (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Still no Canadian dates? What, will they tour Canada after returning from Europe? Does anybody know the reason for this?

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i think, actaully i may've heard something about ogre catching shit at the boarder in the past.

― nosyd (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Well this was supposed to be a mini-tour. A warm-up, with a much bigger tour to follow in the fall, after Europe. I can't see them leaving out Canada entirely and I'm sure they'll get there eventually, but I am surprised they didn't hit Vancouver during this leg of the tour. Maybe they wanted to keep it relatively small at first while they work out the kinks? It has been awhile since they've toured as SP. I heard something about them not wanting to give too much advance notice for this "mini-tour". ::shrug::

― kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Got my tickets!!! Both nights in NYC. Totally psyched!

Just had to share.

― kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Saturday, 15 May 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Nicely done. Make sure they play "Deep Down Trauma Hounds".

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 May 2004 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i promised to a friend to go see the wildhearts on june 19th and now i am going to miss the skinny puppy boston show. but they play nyc on sunday so i could sleep in the park and go see it by i am not 18 anymore.

so is this a mini-tour or what?

― kephm, Friday, 21 May 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Mini tour before Europe, which basically kicks off a huge, and I mean huge, tour. According to a radio interview with Ogre just last night, they expect to wrap this one up around December or January and also plan on hitting places they never went to before. They will be back in NA in the fall.

Oh, and Alex? I don't think I have that kind of power but if they happen to play it... um I guess you can give me credit if you really want to. ;)

― kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Friday, 21 May 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

gracias, that is great news!

― kephm, Friday, 21 May 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

aye carumba! 20 years on and it's the same old story - i'm going to miss 'em live. someone shout out 'assimilate' for me. ta.

― stirmonster, Friday, 21 May 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw SP in about 1990. My wife (then my girlfriend) wanted to, and I went because I was her boyfriend and Godflesh were supposed to open up. They didn't. Justin had entry-visa problems (as he was wont to in those days) and we got some horrible band instead - Thought Industry, I think. Big disappointment for me. SP were okay; this was the tour when they had some kind of giant prop tree on the stage with stuff hanging off it. I heard the voice of Count Floyd in my head the whole night..."Ooooh, wasn't that scary, kids?"

The only album of theirs I really liked was Rabies. Feel free to write my opinion off completely.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 21 May 2004 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG WTF I didn't realize there was actually a NEW ALBUM out. Maybe I didn't read the thread carefully enough earlier on, but I now have the new one in my hands...getting it into my ears will happen later today.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

If it's all unplugged power ballads, don't tell us.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Well....

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

hows the new album? danny from tool plays drums on a track!

― chaki_burger (chaki), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

ive only heard half of it but it sounds a lot like the process, a little more programmed.

― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

SP don't get enough credit for the scavenger hunt their samples lay out. 1,000,000 clues about kick-ass cult film, television, apocrypha etc; a big educational ave. for me, anyway

(like the process, eh? hrm ...)

― rejoinder, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy crap, this new album is like the soundtrack to Doom III, Quake IV or something. Rabies ahoyyyyy

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

My tickets turned up this morning for the London show.

Once more, ilX makes me spend all my money.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm.. hey Dan, where did you get the CD of that Dresden gig you mention right at the start? A good friend of mine flew all the way from Aus to Germany to see them in Dresden in 2000 (I think it was) for some show with other noise bands ( sort of Ant-Zen Glasto, or something I recall), and I know he mini-disced the show. If its a bootleg of something like his recording, that would tickle me greatly.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 06:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The Doomsday CD is pretty easily obtained from a number of sources. I think I ordered mine from Amazon of all places.

As for the new album.... it's kicking my ass. Hmm, maybe I should have mentioned there was a new album to go with the tour earlier, eh? :)

I wouldn't say it's like The Process (which has grown on me) all that much. Yeah, some of the elements are there, but it's more of a progression from that and other avenues they have explored before and since. I don't absolutely love everything on the album, but I could safely say there isn't anything I outright hate, which puts it ahead of Rabies (Fascist Jock Itch anyone?) and The Process (Cult... ugh) as far as I'm concerned. And there are at least five tracks that I really, really like (I'mmortal, Ghostman, Use Less, Goneja and DaddyuWarbash.) More are really growing on me each time I listen to it.

One might be tempted to say it's more accessible, and in many ways it is. Those that might have been turned off by Ogre's vocals before (never an issue for me... far from it) might find this one much easier to listen to. Some of the songs are downright catchy. Their sense of humor is also much more evident this time. Yeah, they're in a better mood than they were with... well, everything else, but I'm certainly not going to fault them that. People expecting to hear a rehash of older stuff will be disappointed, I'm sure. As for me, I've had it on repeat since yesterday. I'm really looking to seeing some of this stuff done live.

― kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I sense Dan's happiness before he even posts here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the CD I was talking about in my original post:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005NT2V/qid=1085579085/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-9644138-0400640?v=glance&s=music

I'm completely psyched for this new album, shocker. Also, "Fascist Jock Itch" was probably the one time that the Ministry pastiche craze of the time actually worked.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

more accessable¿ crap¡
i may be in for a let down when i buy this today.
i want noise dammit - i want dystortion and screaming i want vivisect again¡

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

'Tis the season for industro-revivaxxx! Ministry, Front242, now SP?! H

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

dyson, you are in for stinging disappointment.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

should i even buy it¿
(although, we all know i will)

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, to each his own and all that, Dan, but after all these years, I still can't listen to Fascist Jock Itch without cringing and reaching for the skip. And I liked Ministry at that time! :)

Dyson, yeah, you'll probably be disappointed if you're expecting Vivisect Vi... or any other SP album for that matter. And when I say "accessible," I mean accessible for Skinny Puppy, not in general. I don't think we'll see their videos in heavy rotation on MTV any time soon. Screaming is there, but it's at a minimum. Same goes for samples.

― kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

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