Hiphop? DefJux - No. Anticon - No. Lex - No. So??? [The Recommend Me Some Undie Rap Treehouse-- Admin]

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the amount of fear and sniping on this thread at absent "opponents" is sad, to say the least.

Sniping? Maybe. Fear? Where?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

My only personal comment in those regards was cuz I've heard jess refer to Lyrics Born as one of the "worst rappers ever" and we've got a buncha praise for him up in here. Ethan I just know hates everything I love and vice versa*, I don't understand.

*except Twista and Cee-Lo though, apparently

As for the indie-guilt thing, I really don't have anything to say about that, but then I've seen far more offensive theories so I didn't really pay it too much mind.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

and anyway its not really usual for a moderator to add some kind of cryptic suffix to a thread title is it? nuts.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

yes it's rather immoderate isn't it?

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

indeed vahid.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to mention Atmosphere but I've never actually heard them.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmm ... maybe there's something to this treehouse thing after all. i have to note there's no girls allowed in the clubhouse apparently.

so i'll just throw out fannypack, northern state and princess superstar as my undie rap picks.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(am i forgetting anybody? peaches DID NOT make the cut)

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Jean Grae!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

actually i've been getting a feeling i might really like jean grae and buck 65 if i got around to it.

i really like some of the thirstin howl stuff i've heard, although its all depended on the quality of production he's got. "brooklyn hard rock" is fantastic!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

peaches DID NOT make the cut
Is that why her beard grew so long?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate this whole "indie/undie" thing, just cuz I don't know what the qualifiers are. Like, anything on an indie label? WTF? Is Princess Superstar indie/undie? She's one of my favorite MCs.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I know shitloads of MCs who lyrically are all about some $/guns/bitches gangsta shit, but they release their albums themselves, what are they? Indie gangsta?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I hadnae clicked "submit" on that one d'oh. Regret!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay the cacacacaCOOFFFEEEEE is bullettraining through them veins right now so here's where I for no reason whatsoever post a list of my current favorite MCs that I can think of:

Lryics Born, Kweli, Cee-Lo, Rza, Gza, Ghostface, Del, Princess Superstar, Bahamadia, Black Thought, Big Boi, Twista, Busta, Kool Keith, Ill Bill, Kool G Rap, Pep Love, Nas, Pharoah Monche, Mr. Lif, Cee-Lo again just cuz he's that good, Chali 2na although I hate his name, Dice Raw, K-Os, Method Man, Redman "I smoke weed with lotsa college students/most of 'em weren't garduatin' and they knew it", Mos Def, Doseone when he's not being a douschbag, Andre3000 when he gets around to rapping (the verse in "Spread" frexmple), and Cannibal Ox

nick go smoke something and chill out < /efveryone>

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

nice for mentioning K-OS nick, i love him (some lunatic desribed him as "bad wyclef" on ilm a while ago) and whoever said jean grae - otm, she's fab

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 7 November 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I got k-pissed when Can Ox's Outkasty shenanigans sabotaged my chance to see her in Mpls (she opened for them on their tour, which then got turfed due to aforementioned hijinx).

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 7 November 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Late reply:

The advance cd of the madvillian record that my roommate has is incredible.

So, including the Monsta Island Czars album, Viktor Vaughn Vaudeville Villain and King Geedorah, this makes the fourth album in which MF Doom has major input released this year. That's fuckin' tireless (even if we have yet to get an all-Doom-production-and-beats release this year). And this one might wind up my favorite, if only because it namedrops Kurt Angle in the second track. If college nerds aren't feeling him like they felt Kool Keith in '96 then boo hiss.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 7 November 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

("college nerds" used w/affection)

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 7 November 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

they had a huge piece on NPR about MF Doom including an interview a while back. so, i'm kinda hoping the prairy home companion pbs tote bag krew is feeling him.they could use him.

― scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2003 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Canibus - Rip The Jacker
Wildchild - Secondary Protocol

Def Jux has some good shit.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 8 November 2003 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Couple of other good ones from this year

Foreign Legion - Playtight
Hilltop Hoods - The Calling

― Mil, Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

MF Doom was on NPR? what the heck?

― rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 8 November 2003 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)

jean grae is nice. she used to be what what, right? boy that is a confusing sentence if you don't already know everything.

buck65's *man overboard* is interesting at least but the cd is formatted as one giant track or 4 tracks or something, which is DEADLY. some fascinating stuff going on in there though, i seem to recall a really open-vein rhyme about his mother's death.

how's the heiro crew these days?

fuck the term "undie," that's some condescending indie kid bullshit who can't listen to rap without juvenalizing it.

― rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 8 November 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

someone needs to help me with my morbid bigg jus obsession

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 8 November 2003 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)

big dada will ashon is a neat cherrypicker still, viz ttc and now busdriver. f the bouncement tho

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 8 November 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

y'know, "for the record"

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 8 November 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Rob, I think you mean Buck 65's Square is 4 tracks. My version of Man Overboard is 14 tracks.

― Jonathan (Jonathan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

yep, thats square.

square is so fuckin great.

also he is the best looking guy on the beats scene.

http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2002-02-28/music_feature-2.jpg

...not that that has influenced me in any way of course!

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 8 November 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

how's the heiro crew these days?

They just released an album calt Full Circle. 'S'alright. Needs more ~~dog~~ Del.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 8 November 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

um i've not read upthread so i dunno what the rest of this thread says (not trying to rake up old graves etc etc).

anyway, nate - assuming yr reading - you said on the rough guide thread that 'undie' is insulting and hurtful (which i guess is kinda a joke) - i didn't want to derail the RG thread so thought i'd revive this to ask why / how? sorry if this is something you've gone through a hundred times before - i swear i've read most of the indie hip-hop threads but i can't recall having ever heard you say the term undie ws 'insulting' or 'hurtful'.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)

oh and - don't you like hymie's pop song? i've only heard one tune (21st century pop song) it was ok, i guess - ws just wondering where they stand in an indie hip-hop fans taste. (as compared to rob young's, wire editor, taste who i first read mentioning them). no cLOUDEAD either i noticed. first half of that cLOUDEAD album would be good as instrumentals i thk.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

hymie's BASEMENT goddamit

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

1) I was joking
2) Still, it seems like a redundant/snotty way of talking down on underground hip-hop, about the same level as "backpacker", depending on the context
3) I don't like Hymie's Basement strickly 'cos I haven't heard it.
4) Couldn't stand cLOUDEAD, though Themselves had some good beats to redeem 'em.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

Let's bring this one back too. Another year, more recommendations?

Was cLOUDDEAD's most recent as bad as I heard?

― Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not the one to talk to about Anticon, since I consider everything I've heard from them terrible.

Some of my fave undie for '04.

Azeem - Show Business (Bomb Hip Hop)
Haiku D'Etat - Coup De Theatre (Decon)
Murs - Murs 3:16, The 9th Edition (Def Jux)
Maroons (aka LAteef and the Chief) - Ambush ep (Quannum)
Shock G - Fear of a Mixed Planet (self released)

Wow, pretty Cali-oriented.

― Austin (Austin), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, although I'm sure everyone knows about them already, the various MF Doom projects and the new De La Soul - okay maybe not so undie as all that but whatevs, dude.

― Austin (Austin), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The perceptionists album has, reportedly, leaked.

― deej., Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

initiates soulseek query

― Austin (Austin), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

airborn audio (priest and sayyid of antipop consortium) is out in a month or so.
bright lights mp3

― superultramega (superultramarinated), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

God, I was so fucking annoying in 2003.

anyone got that diverse 12" yet? lyrics born and rjd2 - it's stellar

I have since acquired and fallen in love with this.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I have ILM mod priveleges even if I only intend to delete my own old, embarrassing posts?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

if you have access to a filesharing network, download this ammoncontact mix.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

if you have to pick a lbel...it's gotta be Stones Throw. But really the best hip hop roster is Roc-A- Fella.

Jay-Z
Kanye West
Beanie Sigel
Freeway
Peedi Crack

Nobody's fuckin with that!

― Antonio DePietro, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I have ILM mod priveleges even if I only intend to delete my own old, embarrassing posts?

haha take a place in line on that one.

― deej., Wednesday, 26 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the second cLOUDDEAD album is really good. I’ve heard very little praise, but it’s quite gorgeous. Much less muddy than the first, and much more pretty melodies. They sing-rap a lot. The beats are crisp-dirty as opposed to slush-dirty, which I find an improvement. Much more condensed and catchy.

― Orange (Orange), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

eighteen years pass...

i have been loving this era of hip hop this week.

recently (re)found my anticon collection (digital and real world), and yeah, it's dated, but i care not.
for a while i was all over the lex records/anticon team up fun.
not that i would class the Subtle stuff as hip hop, but still.

basically, stuff like this still makes me smile : madlib vs danger mouse vs mf doom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT14dw8l2-I

― mark e, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:36 (two years ago)

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