ricardo villalobos

I read this as "just listen to Someone Else!", which also made perfect sense.

autechre bite it.

IMO comparing villalobos to autechre is lazy. (love 'em both BTW)

1) Oppositional stance towards bourgeois society
2) Embrace of extremity
3) Hyperbolic, over-the-top agony of the romantic artist

I'd say most undie rap makes a nod towards the first, Def Jux has a good lock on the second and El-P pretty much owns the third part of the definition.

Talking about the positive aspects of the avant-garde is a red herring, since the avant-garde has defined itself negatively from the French revolution all the way to Albert Ayler.

Maybe music critics are confused and are using "avant-garde" and "innovative" interchangably. Not smart, since the notions of the "avant-garde" is rooted in 19C romanticism. No, I don't think CoFlow are particularly "innovative", but they're definitely "avant-garde" as far as the historical definition goes.

-- vahid (vfoz...), September 27th, 2002 3:06 AM. (vahid)

the negative definition ensures that the avant garde in the above definition is aesthetically parasitic on the things it intends to negate => result: its proponents and supporters fear the power of art

the idea that the "avant-garde" is somehow seamlessly in existence from the French Revolution to Albert Ayler = a second way in which it institutionally cuts its own throat, since it means that arguments between difft generations of the a-g have to be placed on one side, as not germane to the essence of the a-g, which effectively strips out the material logic of the works in question

1 2 and 3 are all perfectly good descriptions of the majority of non-undie hiphop

-- mark s (mar...), September 27th, 2002 3:24 AM. (mark s)

and? AND?!?!? How is it? What's it like??

-- matt2

new villalobos imminent on playhouse. it's a 44 minute long track. on cd and then split into two for the vinyl.

-- stirmonster

[from the Playhouse website]

"Represented here in its full glory, we added Ricardo’s special »stripped down to the bone« beat version, the »FIZBEAST«, to give you the chance to enhance your creative DJ skills and add some extra sugar on top!"

It also says on the site that the CD release is limited!

what threw me off is the second side. the horn section doesn't come in once. it's far dubbier though... constant fucking with the percussive levels. nuts, but more of a DJ tool (i've never heard him play this part out.) i'd have expected the two halves to be the other way round, i.e.

what i really want to hear now is the OTHER new production he mixed the first half of fizheuer into when i last saw him (which i mistook for being its actual first half bcz of stirmonster's Ata 'what is this? what is this? anecdote). nuts electro/clarinet thing.

it's not on THIS, but still, get pumped:

Ricardo Villalobos - What's Wrong My Friends?

Label: Perlon
Catalog#: PERL 59
Format: 2x12"
Country: Germany
Release Date: Nov 2006

Tracklisting:

A: What's Wrong My Friends?
B: Gugga Sempa
C: Africolaps
D: Dummolator

Samples:

A
B
C
D

http://www.discogs.com/release/804439

the Perlon mp3s are a lot better, yes. although obviously the vinyl still sounds better. speculation: maybe because they're not available to buy digitally, people make more effort with the rips? totally off topic anyway. looking forward to buying Fizheuer in a couple of weeks.

jed: the rip sounds OK but having heard it out a few times, the low end is totally missing unless you crank your bass way up. (also, i think the horn parts will burst out from the mix more -- although that could just be down to how loud the soundsystem is)

reissue of this, no?

he drops in the clarinet thing he always uses right at the very end of the track. it just mixes from Tres Demented into Fizheuer.

although i trust everyone on this thread has heard 'Sini Est'?
(NB -- the rip of Perlon 13 is mislabelled -- so this track is 'Portside Waves' on that)

Ha! You can always trust ILM to go on some he-really-hasn't-been-good-since-1876-joy-killing. In the mean time I'll wait for the cd version.

As far as 40-minute tracks go, I think this week's trophy goes to LCD soundsystem...