I guess I'm too old to care about the answer to this question. show that you're a fan-- great! show that you like some other band--also fine. the only thing I don't want to see people wear at shows is tall hats.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:57 (six years ago)
But Milton Nascimento has a Milton Nascimento t-shirt for every day of the week and wears them in all kinds of social situations.
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It's like the one kid from your high school who only wore Metallica t-shirts, but it's Milton Nascimento and they're his own shirts. This is a whole other level of wearing your own shirt outside a venue. At first found this heroically clueless but now thinking it might be legendary, or both.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:01 (six years ago)
I will definitely wear the shirt for an opening band / support band to a show. Generally, these are my friends' bands, and it's also to show support for them, because a lot of people at the show will often be disrespectful or at least don't really give a fuck about the opening and support bands, but they are usually really stoked to be opening for the headliner.
It definitely depends on genre though -- I generally don't wear band shirts to goth shows because I dress up more.
The standard band shirt is way more designed for a cis-male body than a cis-female one. I have recently done this thing where I will decorate band shirts I already own and make alterations to them so that they are more flattering on my, uh, feminine attributes, and for some of the shirts, they are a bit too tight in the stomach, so I've done alterations so that I look less fat while wearing them.
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:04 (six years ago)
also re: wearing opening band shirts -- if you got in free to the show because a friend in one of the opening bands put you on the list, wearing their shirt to the show is often a very considerate thing to do!
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:06 (six years ago)
Lately I've been wearing my Tropical Fuck Storm shirt to most concerts I go to, mostly because I'm too shy to wear it to the grocery.
Also, the guy with the 100% perfect Dr. Rockso cosplay at the Dethklok/Mastodon show is the only true head I've ever seen.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:09 (six years ago)
Milton Nascimento can and should do whatever he wants obv.
Re T. Swift
or in costume based on inspirations from her song lyrics
Yes and I only wear short skirts to her concerts now.
― beelzebubbly (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:14 (six years ago)
i hear she also sells pillows with pics of her cats on them
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:19 (six years ago)
this is p much a hipster thing, you don’t wear the shirt of the band in order to affect like you go to shows all the time and are just corporally and spiritually ensconced in live music all the time
― brimstead, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:22 (six years ago)
You're right, the man is a godlike genius whose every 'aheee, ahee-iya-iya-iya-eee-e' is like a divine transmission from the heavens, who am I to question him? Not sure what I was even thinking.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:25 (six years ago)
mmmm maybe somewhat? But also not entirely.
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:26 (six years ago)
Yeah that's wrong. It's just too enthusiastic and earnest to wear the band's t shirt to their show. Too irony poisoned to even contemplate such a thing
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:29 (six years ago)
If you are framing it in a hipster context, then it definitely depends on the band, where they are in the line up, how long they have been in existence ... people have already touched on examples upthread. It's not worth the effort of reiterating discussions and conclusions reached over a decade ago in our many "hipster studies" threads, often chaired by Dr. Whiney PhD
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:30 (six years ago)
brimstead otm to a large extent, ime many of the people I have met who most vocally clown on concertgoers wearing the bands shirt back it up with "its so corny that they're so excited, were they writing the bands logo on their trapper keeper all day lol", obviously trying to put across a front of jaded connoisseurship, as if they themselves just happen to find themselves at this show and who knows, if its not totally boring maybe they'll stick around
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:55 (six years ago)
nb I dont classify this as a hipster thing but nearly universal across genres/scenes, the phenomenon of snotty ppl who need to flex at shows by complaining about other concertgoers not measuring up to their standards of fandom
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:00 (six years ago)
geez, do we have a new generation of ilxors who need to take Intro to Hipster Studies .... *sigh*
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:02 (six years ago)
wearing a hipster studies tshirt rn
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:06 (six years ago)
The biggest problem with this ‘rule’ is that I nearly always want to buy a shirt of one of the bands playing. If I’d do this after the show and walk around all evening in my supposedly cooler other shirt first, the good/fitting merch is all gone so I buy my shirt as soon as I’m in the venue. So I can never be that trve dude.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:17 (six years ago)
when I saw Datarock I bought a shirt first and wore it over my other shirt (what else was I gonna do with it?) and the singer noticed and brought me on stage so, that was cool
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:20 (six years ago)
xxp - what kind of dog is on the front?
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:02 (six years ago)
hipster puppy, obv
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:12 (six years ago)
the breed! what breed of dog! geez
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:13 (six years ago)
I threw all my old metal shirts out and regret it all the time. I had so many cool death metal shirts and it breaks my heart. I'm gradually buying them back (replacements, not my old ones).
My uncool t-shirt story: first gig I ever went to (the fucking Quireboys at the Hammersmith Odeon) I bought a t-shirt and went to the toilet and put it on.
― Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:13 (six years ago)
unless there are like four dogs of different breeds sitting like good bois with a brick wall behind them.
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:14 (six years ago)
I have a small holdall in the loft with a collection of band tshirts that are "not to go the journey". All are pretty cool, all bands I like, but also because I like(d) the t-shirt over all.
I also have a few 'down' that I wear but rarely. 808 state, a Moondog one, and a couple of Beatles ones I get as Xmas pressies you get the picture.
I tend not to wear them to gigs though. One time accompanying Alice to Reading Festival when she wasn't quite oldenough to go on her own, pondered which would make me not look like "accompanying dad". Decided on a paislyish shirt in a "if you can't join 'em, beat' em" style. Actually, the pic is still on our fridge!
― Mark G, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:31 (six years ago)
Some bands like Kiss and the Grateful Dead are more about the merch, they are fashion/lifestyle brands as much as anything else. I had a Kiss shirt when i was 9 years old but never owned any of their records or attended a show. To this day, I've only heard about 3 of their songs. For pre-teen me, all the mystique around Kiss or the Dead was shattered the moment I heard a note of their music.
― beard papa, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:36 (six years ago)
depends on how old the kid is.
― sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:38 (six years ago)
Hafta admit I’m not big on adults dressing little kids in band gear, when the kids are too young for the band (but put whatever you want on your kid, who am I to object).
― You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:44 (six years ago)
i think it's cute, unless the band is "problematic" -- there are so many other aesthetically objectionable wardrobe options for children, a babby-sized Ramones t-shirt is okay in comparison.
― sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:47 (six years ago)
was at a toddler birthday party where one of the 3 year old guests was wearing a swans t shirt
― adam, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:00 (six years ago)
Ugh. “Aren’t mommy & daddy cool?”
― You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:02 (six years ago)
I judge these the same way I judge it for adults: if I like the band its cool & ok and if I don't, its lame
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:16 (six years ago)
― sarahell, Friday, February 14, 2020 3:38 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
What? No, it depends how cool the shirt is!
― Deflatormouse, Friday, 14 February 2020 23:36 (six years ago)
Saw like a 3 year old being carried around by his fully metal parents outside a Maryland Death Fest venue wearing a little jean battle jacket with Exodus and Jungle Rot backpatches. It was cute.
― circa1916, Saturday, 15 February 2020 00:40 (six years ago)
I always love shit like that
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 February 2020 01:47 (six years ago)
Metal jacket with patches is cute to me but swans t shirt is obnoxious somehow (even setting aside gira rape accusations)
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 15 February 2020 01:49 (six years ago)
I like Swans but def agree that one is not a good look for the parents.
― circa1916, Saturday, 15 February 2020 02:34 (six years ago)
maybe the kid likes swans (the bird)?
― sarahell, Saturday, 15 February 2020 03:24 (six years ago)
also p rapey iirc
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 15 February 2020 03:31 (six years ago)
^golf clap for thisI concede that a universal, fashion-y logo like Queen isn’t so bad (or even, I guess, the Ramones). The “cooler,” the worse, IMO
― You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 03:34 (six years ago)
My friend got his one year old a Napalm Death onesie
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 February 2020 03:35 (six years ago)
Yeah I mean the crux of a lot of this is pretentious v. unpretentious.
― circa1916, Saturday, 15 February 2020 08:49 (six years ago)
Oft told story, but:
Alice - Ramones t-shirt - "Rock&roll high school" "oh OK then I'll go get the t-shirt"
― Mark G, Saturday, 15 February 2020 09:37 (six years ago)
dressing your toddler in a 'jesus is a cunt' cradle of filth shirt and dropping him off at a birthday party, pretentious or unpretentious?
― Siegbran, Saturday, 15 February 2020 11:27 (six years ago)
Well, I think the idea that wearing a band's t-shirt signifies your deep appreciation of their music is bit old fashioned.
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:21 (six years ago)
wearing your own shirt onstage is classic, outside of a venue it can be touch & go but Milton Nasimento can 100% get away with it
LOL this is so late 70s Lou Reed
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:28 (six years ago)
― circa1916, Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:49 AM (ten hours ago)
oh geez ... this is still a thing people are concerned about? Also, what qualifies as "pretentious" when the context is fashion for children of an age where their parents choose their clothes for them? However you dress your child is a signifier of something, it is a performance, a pretense. Really, "pretentious" in this context, seems to mean, a performance you dislike. There also seems to be a bunch of class-related stuff tied up in this too.
― sarahell, Saturday, 15 February 2020 19:46 (six years ago)
i wear shirts featuring bands on them to shows where that band is playing, fuck it. i like the band! when is a better time to wear the shirt?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 15 February 2020 19:50 (six years ago)
lol @ Milton Nascimento upthread. What a legend
― J. Sam, Saturday, 15 February 2020 21:40 (six years ago)
I don’t even wear other band t-shirts. Just don’t get it. But most prob I don’t want pple approaching me at gigs. Just fuck off, I’m here for the music, not trying to decipher the banter you’re spewing in my ears. (Yes, I’m an asshole. I already talk to enough ppl during the day.)
― nathom, Sunday, 16 February 2020 00:08 (six years ago)
/Yeah I mean the crux of a lot of this is pretentious v. unpretentious.― circa1916, Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:49 AM (ten hours ago) /oh geez ... this is still a thing people are concerned about? Also, what qualifies as "pretentious" when the context is fashion for children of an age where their parents choose their clothes for them? However you dress your child is a signifier of something, it is a performance, a pretense. Really, "pretentious" in this context, seems to mean, a performance you dislike. There also seems to be a bunch of class-related stuff tied up in this too.
― circa1916, Sunday, 16 February 2020 01:20 (six years ago)