Morrissey is a racist

Like, you guys who are proud that he wouldn’t headline a festival in the UK anymore… What’s your excuse for 1986 to whenever?
― Mocha Sauce (morrisp), Thursday, 13 February 2020 03:28 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i', mot going to link it for like a fourth time, that seems cheeky, but (as a writer who was "there" in 1986) i did actually wrestle with this at some length in my patreon/freaky trigger piece: i think there were institutional reasons it didn't land with permanence in the 80s which go beyond "everyone is as racist as everyone else, get over yrselves" -- a big deal was immediately made of it in the uk music press in 1986

― mark s, Thursday, February 13, 2020 4:07 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

just want to say that this is a great piece and everyone who's interested enough in this to post in this thread should read it

I'll link to it again so mark s doesn't have to

https://www.patreon.com/posts/other-jacksons-18720007

Eh...despite Morrissey’s sincere attempts to fuck it up by association since, the Smiths’ rep is still a million miles away from the late 80s/early 90s UK indie herd

Not quite on a par with Shakespeare though. His sister maybe.

sounds just as bard as all the other indie shite to me!

The smiths’ best songs rule, come on

I went from being a slight Smiths fan over time, to loving them a couple of years ago, to being unable to stomach them anymore when I read Mark's article. I mean fuck Morissey sideways.

This was on a past revive, not just now.

Marr does a credible job singing the good Smiths song live so you can enjoy them without direct Morrissey stink, at least

i'll read mark's article

I imagine he never told Mozza that "How Soon Is Now" was inspired by Hamilton Bohannon's "Disco Stomp" either.

― High profile Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Lol, amazing

See this article is doing the rounds on Twitter again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42050512

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4634-stop-me-if-you-think-you-ve-heard-this-one-before-a-study-in-the-politics-and-aesthetics-of-english-misery

Owen Hatherley on Morrissey as paragon of English boomer miserabilism

i've seen a couple of attempts to rehabilitate Morrissey this year. one asks oneself why.

this is a very good piece

It's OK, feels like he wasn't entirely convinced by the conclusions he's drawn and crammed them into a little paragraph at the end though.

i think he understands the essence of morrissey, i guess borrowed from simon reynnolds, that morrissey is really longing for the "lost limits" of a vanished social order, even as he tries to make it seem like he's railing against them. these are odes to repression. that's why the music is so distinctive, but it also means his ukip sympathies shouldn't be a surprise.

a lot of people sussed this a long time ago treesh, which is why i think the only thinkpiece worth anything about Morrissey now is "fuck this racist"

ppl sussed everything thousands of years ago yet here we are

lol truth

A minor quibble maybe, but why did he chose to single out Lulu alongside Joe Meek and Billy Fury 'rather than psychedelia or soul'? Her first hit was a Isley Brothers song! Shouldn't it have been Helen Shapiro or someone?

Alma Cogan?

hackney massive reprazent

let's assume he's limited by the extent of his own record collection

(alma is whitechapel, helen is hackney)

no suck up but mark your history of Morrissey is gloriously correct

v mildly peeved owen doesn't cite it since i *know* he knows it, all my attempts to turn ancient weak-tea beef w.simon r into MASSIVE CLOUT are doomed to fail

no suck up taken

I do think the idea of generational nostalgia for misery is p interesting, though I agree with Tom that it could be developed more strongly.

people with grudges are like that -- stuck in the past, but not because they liked it. because it formed them. it takes courage to break free.

They seems to be stuck in someone else's past though - Morrissey in the late 50s/early 60s and all of these clowns who go on about the war and the Blitz when they weren't even born yet.

yeah. he obviously likes feeling sorry for himself. i think the politics emerges from the psychology.

Morrissey nostalgic for a past his parents were fucking not a part of and would have been excluded from. Fuck this prick.

It's almost like these people think they have suffered enough, in fact.

... sorry, HAVEN'T suffered enough!

it takes goots to be gentle and kind

https://pitchfork.com/news/the-simpsons-morrissey-inspired-song-everyone-is-horrid-except-me-and-possibly-you-gets-officially-released-listen/

lmao this is great

this is going around on twitter but can't find the source

Impossible to tell if these song titles are some ones Twitter made up. pic.twitter.com/SwOTeCNu1y

— Justin Lewis (@WhenIsBirths) May 31, 2021

https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/morrissey-new-album

appears to be real

the source of the twitter screencap is morrissey-solo

album artwork by the "united states of whatever" guy

Morrissey's 5 nights at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas start on August 28, and
there are no anti-social distancing or facial concealment rules in place.

As well as an idiot? Yes, no surprise there.

genuinely strange that he hasn't been very outspoken about it if he's a covid conspiracy weirdo

The Unmasked Singer

Morrissey's 5 nights at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas start on August 28, and
there are no anti-social distancing or facial concealment rules in place.
so he's a covidiot too? not surprising tbh.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, May 31, 2021 2:38 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

everyone in the states who wants to be is vaccinated at this stage, lots of people are doing shows, festivals etc. in the coming months?

he's a huge bastard, we don't need to make up issues with him

I'm sure that whatever policies are being set are being set by the casino and not Morrissey himself

idk about the rules, but calling masks "facial concealment" is one rung down on the loony ladder from calling them "muzzles"

“anti-social” distancing rules also not exactly a neutral phrase

fair enough, i was just reading what was on this page