Has Shorter ever been on a bad record? Later Weather Report stuff maybe? I haven't heard anything I didn't like.
― Brad C., Tuesday, 11 February 2020 00:05 (four years ago) link
I <3 Wayne Shorter so much
― brimstead, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link
Def one of the great bands of the early 21st century.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link
Looking at his wiki discography, this was my guess for the worst record he's been on:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swing_of_Delight
But now I'm listening, and it's kind of sick (Carlos Santana playing fantasy camp with Miles Davis' second classic quintet)
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link
Is Brian Blade still in the band?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
Supernova seems to be the one I go back to a lot, gorgeous album.
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
OMG I am a longtime STAN of Supernova. I wrote a thing about it for my college paper.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
He played here last year, I think ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link
four years ago is when i last saw him, at that year's jazzfest, and he still sounded great. it was just him and herbie onstage, and they played an entirely improvised single-"song" set, it was astonishing and bent my mind permanently
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link
i have spent the last four years hoping someone recorded in in its entirety but no dice. however i did just find this clip of it on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3agp0ejoGs
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
i was so depressed that weekend bc i was still reeling from a bad breakup the previous year and prince had just died and that set absolutely confirmed for me that music is the healing force of the universe
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
that was amazing
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link
just heard he passed away :(what a legend
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link
Beyond question.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link
so sad he's gone, RIP
― Brad C., Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
One of the best random purchases I ever made was of Native Dancer about 20 years ago. I can list five or six great albums, but I'll remember him for his mid to late '60s work with Miles. Sorcerer, Nefertiti, Miles in the Sky -- what a fucking run. And the title track "Nefertiti" is all his -- that one's repetitions still melts my mind.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
really was a legend, so distinct in so many styles
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
OTM re: "Nefertiti." I've been doing a deep Miles dive lately, and that title track is such a stunner. xp
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
Imagine listening to "Nefertiti" live.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
It’s overlooked a little, partly because he was known as much for being a performer as a composer, but I think there’s an argument to be made that Wayne Shorter might have been the greatest composer in the history of jazz.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
Davis:
"Wayne is a real composer. He writes scores, writes the parts for everybody just as he wants them to sound. ... Wayne also brought in a kind of curiosity about working with musical rules. If they didn't work, then he broke them, but with musical sense; he understood that freedom in music was the ability to know the rules in order to bend them to your own satisfaction and taste."
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
Truly one of one, RIP.
I still haven't spent enough time with his late period group with Brian Blade, John Patitucci, and Danilo Perez. The way they worked felt so mysterious and at the highest levels of interplay, abstract and yet totally together.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link
Let’s not forget his run on Blue Note “Speak No Evil” slays
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
Such an original. Don’t even know what to say or where to begin. Maybe I will just quote Marlene Dietrich in Touch of Evil: “He was some kind of a man. What does it matter what you say about people?”
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
legend.☮️
love that miles quote alfred. was going to make a comment about how you always knew it was WAYNE SHORTER when he played because he had such a unique and distinct whatnot and whatever. that quote sums up the mechanics of why that was pretty well.
and another one of those players where he was able to simultaneously capture a perfect "anything can happen" feeling, but you also just knew he was already thinking at least 4 or 5 bars ahead.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
I got to see him in 2011 and it was amazing; the kind of performance that only grows greater in your mind as you think about it afterward. I reviewed it for the Voice.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
his work w/art blakey and the jazz messengers was great, and he had lots of excellent compositions performed with that group. can't forget weather report either obv.
― omar little, Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
unperson otm: "his solos were calmly reasoned explications of the beautiful melodies he composed."
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
Yeah obviously the '60s albums are total classics. I love that they exist as a merger of the Miles and Coltrane classic lineups, if they didn't it would be an unfulfilled fantasy.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
you know, i've never thought of those albums like this-
they exist as a merger of the Miles and Coltrane classic lineups
not in a bad way or anything just... huh, good observation.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
Yeah, it's true; Night Dreamer and Juju are Shorter plus Tyner, Workman, and Jones (and Lee Morgan on ND). A kind of alternate universe Coltrane band.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
And Soothsayer has Tony Williams & Ron Carter + Tyner!
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link
Blakey's "Free For All" also sounds to me very Quartet-ish, Art and Wayne driving each other like Elvin and Trane at peak intensity
RIP to another giant
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
love Free For All
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 March 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link
This is blowing my mind: according to Wikipedia, Shorter appears on 22 Jazz Messengers albums recorded 1959-1964, with 10 of those recorded wholly or in part in 1961. During the same period he was on three albums with Miles, three with Freddie Hubbard, and one-offs with Lee Morgan, The Young Lions, Donald Byrd, Benny Golson, and Gil Evans. Plus six albums of his own!
― Brad C., Thursday, 2 March 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
amazing
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 2 March 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link
i saw his quartet play in 2010… in truth wayne shorter played very little, he spent a lot of time listening, adjusting his reed, raising his instrument then deciding not to contribute at that moment. from what i have read of this group, not saying anything if he didn’t have anything to say was his regular MO, but even given that I still felt it must’ve been an off night.
having said that, i still walked away thinking it was one of the best bands i have ever seen! i am a jazz dumbo but the way they navigated between structure and freedom seemed unique and searching and not quite like anything i have ever heard before or since.
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 2 March 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
going for the blue note marathon upon hearing the news and yeah: none of these records will ever get old. the all seeing eye features grachan moncur iii and james spaulding and is roughly a thousand times better than i remember.
(an aside: how many times did mccoy tyner get the shaft "etc." credit on blue note covers? i mean i know it was probably a contractual thing, but dang. can't we retcon that lol?)
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 2 March 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
The band with Blade, Pattituci, Perez, are one of those bands where the cliche of "telepathic" communincation may be true. They made every performance seem inevitable, kind of like the Necks (says "the man who just discovered the Necks and is now all like, 'ah I detect a Necks vibe here'").
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 March 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
(I was a Shorter fan first, and for a long time)
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 March 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
man, you know what's great? motto grosso feio is great
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:46 PM (eight years ago)
listening to it now, RIP
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 2 March 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link
WATER BABIES
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 2 March 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link
"infant eyes" <3
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
^^^ that's the one I wanted to hear when i heard the news. one of the few perfect songs.
― tylerw, Thursday, 2 March 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
A friend of mine studied bass, and one of her first gigs out of conservatory was on a cruise ship. Because she was new, and younger than everyone else in the band, the other musicians started hazing her by calling out relatively obscure and/or complex tunes. So she hunkered down in her cabin with The Real Book, spending hours each day going through tunes. She hit on one that a) she already knew and loved, and b) was pretty sure the other musicians wouldn’t know (or at least know well). She called out “Virgo” that night, and stumped a few in the band, but the other musicians were grateful — and a bunch of Wayne’s tunes made it into the band’s book for the rest of the cruise.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 March 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link
^love this. Thanks for posting.
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 March 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
yeah that's great — I love "Virgo" ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 2 March 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
never heard moto grosso feio before this afternoon. wow.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Friday, 3 March 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link