The most buttrockin' song on Buddy Blue's list of the top 50 Butt Rock Anthems (search term: buttrock)

feel like butt vs funk is a dialectic worth problematizing

butt can be white dudes trying to do funk but failing

But I would also argue that many songs that are not buttrock allow for a stupid listener response; the question, I think, is whether the song actively works to limit the listener response to a shared bro-ish stupidity.

And I would say that Born in the USA does that -- perhaps unintentionally, but it is anthemic and the catchy chorus is "Born in the USA" -- compare this to CCR's "Fortunate Son" -- where the catchy chorus is "I'm Not Your Fortunate Son" -- there is an active negation and tension there, in the dominant language, that is not present in "Born in the USA" -- it would be like, a picture of a butt, with relatively small-sized text framing the butt pic that talks about how horribly police handle sexual assault cases. Some people are gonna see the whole thing, and see it as a commentary on objectification and sexual assault -- other people will just see a big picture of a butt, and think, "Mmmmm butt!"

"Born in the USA" doesn't rest comfortably in the Buttrock canon, but it is still part of it. It's the "In Bloom" issue.

It's so keyboardy tho. Are synths butty enough?

Also would that open the doors to the Cougar himself

uh, the Coug is def butt-adjacent

A buttbeat away

B.U.T.T. IN THE U.S.A

I first heard the term "buttrock" in the 90s.

and this queefdick

― ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal)

apparently so much as mentioning the '90s gave you a serious flashback

Is "Hungry Heart" buttrock? To me it sounds much buttier than "Born in the USA," but maybe my definition is off.

"Hungry Heart" seems more like a throwback to a 1950s sound

i view buttrock as generating primarily feelings of fellowship, among the dudes and dude-adjacent ... it is the soundtrack to bros before hos for white men

Using this rubric, would vote for “Hot Blooded.”

Jukebox Hero is pure butt.

But, like, Boston - too much care and craft, imo, butty though it may often be.

i view buttrock as generating primarily feelings of fellowship, among the dudes and dude-adjacent ... it is the soundtrack to bros before hos for white men

Forgive my buttless ignorance, but how does this differ from cock rock?

I think of butt-rock simply as graceless, lowest-common-denominator hard-rock, lacking subtlety, technical sophistication, etc.

Artists like Springsteen, Mellencamp are just “too good” to even be in the ballpark.

The Boss does sound more than a bit constipated on BITU so that’s adds a few points on the butt-scale.

I've been underrating "Roadhouse Blues" as butt rock urtext, focusing instead on Hendrix and Sticky Fingers. But the throbbing and moaning of "Roadhouse Blues", its gracelessness, its thud: this is butt.

Forgive my buttless ignorance, but how does this differ from cock rock?

cock rock at least gives the hos equal standing to bros, and in some instances be closer to hos before bros

like cock rock is more Rolling Stones and Rod Stewart and the audience is the aforementioned dudes alongside the women in crop tops and jean shorts

I thought butts were gender neutral?

^exactly!

Most of the cock rock i know is misogynist as hell

I knew a guy he had a butt
15 miles on the Eerie Canut

butts also do not see color, yet the vast majority of buttrock is white

There is no way Born in the USA is butt rock.

I think the element that some butt-adjacent songs are missing is the troglodyte quality of real butt rock. Trve Cult Butt Rock like Grand Funk Railroad's first album has a willful stupidity to it, but(t) too much willfulness or knowingness kills butt rock dead. Also, butt rock does permit metaphor or wordplay, it's just that these aspirations to artiness must be deployed with a certain locker room crassness, such as winking double entendres for how the singer's penis fits in a vagina.

Most of the cock rock i know is misogynist as hell

yes! because women do not have cocks. whereas, everyone has a butt

Cock Rock is more about blatantly trying to get laid, while Butt Rock is more about partying and just having fun in general.

I guess what I am saying is a butt rock requires a little meat head.

born in the USA is beloved by many meat heads!

Xxxpost Which is why BulletBoys "I'll Tear That Asshole Like a Movie Ticket" doesn't count

Let's go further back in time. Is the back door in 'Back Door Man' in fact a butt?

are you talking about the original or the Doors version?

born in the USA is beloved by many meat heads!

I guess we can go all artist v. audience on this. I just don't see an ironic song about the plight of Vietnam vets is a butt rock anthem. If you played this with all the Foghat/Foreigner/Grand Funk/BTO it would stick out like a sore thumb. It's an interesting argument though, cause I agree there are heads so meat they will see butt in any rock.

I am pretty sure that in both the "back door" is an actual door, and the anatomical referents are penis and vagina, allowing for rear entry of vagina as a possibility, but not butt

It's about entering and sneaking out of the backdoor when fuckin' a married woman in their own home

The LITERAL BACK DOOR

xxp I also don’t think it’s defined by audience... and anyway, “meatheads” are just one subset of the huge audience that love(d) “Born in the U.S.A.”

Springsteen refused Chrysler Corporation CEO Lee Iacocca's request to use "Born in the U.S.A." in commercials for Chrysler cars, turning down an offer that would have been worth several million dollars.

like -- being used in car commercials in the 1980s (even requested use) is definitely a sign that a song has butt appreciation.

maybe this is a good metaphor:

https://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/20-things-that-totally-look-like-butts/84033783/

It's about entering and sneaking out of the backdoor when fuckin' a married woman in their own home

That's just, like, one layer, man.

I was thinking of The Doors' version btw, as it comes with extra butt.

the message of bitusa is too grim for buttrock

I would argue that the artist's refusal to allow the song's use in a car commercial is a sign it is not butt rock. I guess ultimately I subscribe to the auteur theory of butt rock.

as with most cultural products, I tend to emphasize reception theory -- thus the appropriation of Born in the U.S.A. by the butt genre, is a totally valid argument in the butt vs. not-butt issue.

otoh, along with unperson, tracer, mookieproof, crut, and Neanderthal, I do view ums as having expertise in this butt-defining exercise.

oh and granny dainger

this discussion has definitely been very eye-opening

is the eye brown?

According to the reception theory, “Bohemian Rhapsody” would be butt rock!

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