The most buttrockin' song on Buddy Blue's list of the top 50 Butt Rock Anthems (search term: buttrock)

Then again, maybe Adams represents that subtle transition from butt rock to, er, Mutt rock.

why are there several prime examples of hair metal in this buttrock poll? I know I am not the first one to point this out, but, GnR, Quiet Riot, and Twisted Sister ... hair and butt are related, but not the same. Also, Georgia Satellites and Metallica -- way too late.

when I think buttrock I think:

American Band
TCB
You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet
Bad to the Bone

and...

Slow Ride

i view buttrock as generating primarily feelings of fellowship, among the dudes and dude-adjacent ... it is the soundtrack to bros before hos for white men

sarahell otm

one rule of thumb I've applied is, could anyone possibly consider this song to be sexy? if the answer is yes, that song is not buttrock

music for slugging Miller Lites

I think I've heard the term "butt rock" twice irl and the people were referring to 80s hard rock/hair metal afaict (and one of those was from an ilxor). Outside ilx, I gather that online people use it to refer to post-grunge like Nickelback. It seems fairly simple to grasp what the compilers of this comp are going for. This thread's efforts to invent a subgenre based on purely affective properties seem fascinatingly quixotic.

quixotic rock is my favorite genre

I first heard the term "buttrock" in the 90s. it was in a response to a USEnet post where I was talking about Metallica, and this queefdick replied by saying Metallica sucked because he "hated cheesy buttrock".

i assume he was referring to the Black album (Load wasn't out yet), but idk

I'm fine with the exercise tbh. it's just an enjoyable thread goof. buttrock has never been clearly defined, and it's just a bit of fun, let's be cool

It's gotta be the right kind of super dumb, as in "butt stupid," which is different from regular stupid.

I think we can all agree that “Born in the USA” doesn’t belong anywhere near this list.

yeah, that is not butt of any shape or size

the album cover's got butt!

I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about butt rock irl, just on ILM

it's a dumb genre and I think our collective efforts toward a poetics of butt rock have been suitably dumb

the mountain range that is Classic Rock has a lot of different peaks and valleys

the album cover's got butt!

― juntos pedemos (Euler), Sunday, February 9, 2020 11:10 AM bookmarkflaglink

a sexy one at that

Free- Alright Now

^discussed above (Ctl+F “all right now”)

Foghat Setlist
at Daryl's House Club, Pawling, NY, USA

Drivin' Wheel
Road Fever
Stone Blue
Chateau Laffite ’59
It Hurts Me Too
(Tampa Red cover)
Take Me to the River
(Al Green cover)
Eight Days on the Road
(Howard Tate cover)
Chevrolet
(Lonnie Young, Ed Young & Lonnie Young, Jr. cover)
Fool for the City
Home in My Hand
I Just Want to Make Love to You
(Willie Dixon cover)

Encore:
Maybellene
(Chuck Berry cover)
Play That Funky Music
(Wild Cherry cover)
Slow Ride

the album cover's got butt!

If that’s admissible evidence, then “Working for the Weekend” should also be listed!

dead butt if the story behind the cover is true

Working for the Weekend is more butt than Born in the USA imo

I would be satisfied if we could axiomatize the butt, or even just the butt order. i.e.

Axiom 1. if Slow Ride <_{butt} a, then a is butt

Axiom 2. For all a and b, either a <_{butt} b or b <_{butt} a

Born in the USA is butt -- it may be Pippa's Arse compared to the more proletarian asses of songs by Foghat, BTO, and Grand Funk Railroad -- but it is still of the posterior category

our collective efforts toward a poetics of butt rock have been suitably dumb

new board description

xp By what measure? If “butt” simply means “anthemic,” then butt means nothing at all!

Butt means something to me

idk where you are getting butt = anthemic from. There is plenty of anthemic music that is not butt -- the Internationale, for example. I guess you _could_ do a buttrock version of The Internationale, though it kinda is at odds with a certain butt ethos focused on the individual butt-owner (generally male) as opposed to a song focused on collectivist action focused on overthrowing an oppressive state. There does tend to be a proletarian aspect to buttrock, however.

i view buttrock as generating primarily feelings of fellowship, among the dudes and dude-adjacent ... it is the soundtrack to bros before hos for white men

I agree with this; I think there's an unquestioning bro-ishness to buttrock that's essential to the genre.

I agree that "Born in the USA" doesn't belong on the list; I think part of the essence of buttrock is that it doesn't require you to think, and, in fact, actively discourages you from thinking. If listening to it doesn't on some level make you dumber, I don't think it counts.

Hmm, I would propose that a buttrock song is at least polyvalent, in that it allows for a stupid listener response, even if the desired interpretation is more nuanced and/or intellectual. If this is not true, then our theoretical structure could result in the exclusion of numerous core buttrock tracks because someone can respond to it with "makes you think!" --> not buttrock.

what do you mean this doesn't require you to think

I'm in the mood
The rhythm is right
Move to the music
We can roll all night, yeah

Slow ride, easy, slow ride, sleazy

Euler otm

is Buddy Miles the only (lead) black artist on the list? we need to interrogate the intersectionality of the butt

There is plenty of anthemic music that is not butt -- the Internationale, for example.

We’re taking about rock songs here, sheesh!

applying the looser criteria of polyvalence to buttrock: you can include Born in the USA because there are plenty of people who hear it and think, "I was born in the USA! Yay! USA!" ... and hear "Slow Ride" and think "Slow Ride! Cars cruising! Yay! Slow Ride!" idk

xp morrisp -- there have been rock versions of the Internationale!!!

xp Euler -- I feel like the essence of butt is white and cis-male -- the inclusion of a black artist like Buddy Miles, and cis-women artists like Pat Benetar and Heart -- idk, maybe they aren't really butt? Does the dynamic change when the voice of butt is not a white male?

lol Tush really should be the winner here. Has my vote

Think we'll get to the bottom of this soon

yeah I agree sarahell, butt lacks intersectionality

It's true that a definition that relies on an individual and subjective experience of stupidity is flawed. But I would also argue that many songs that are not buttrock allow for a stupid listener response; the question, I think, is whether the song actively works to limit the listener response to a shared bro-ish stupidity.

feel like butt vs funk is a dialectic worth problematizing

butt can be white dudes trying to do funk but failing

But I would also argue that many songs that are not buttrock allow for a stupid listener response; the question, I think, is whether the song actively works to limit the listener response to a shared bro-ish stupidity.

And I would say that Born in the USA does that -- perhaps unintentionally, but it is anthemic and the catchy chorus is "Born in the USA" -- compare this to CCR's "Fortunate Son" -- where the catchy chorus is "I'm Not Your Fortunate Son" -- there is an active negation and tension there, in the dominant language, that is not present in "Born in the USA" -- it would be like, a picture of a butt, with relatively small-sized text framing the butt pic that talks about how horribly police handle sexual assault cases. Some people are gonna see the whole thing, and see it as a commentary on objectification and sexual assault -- other people will just see a big picture of a butt, and think, "Mmmmm butt!"

"Born in the USA" doesn't rest comfortably in the Buttrock canon, but it is still part of it. It's the "In Bloom" issue.

It's so keyboardy tho. Are synths butty enough?

Also would that open the doors to the Cougar himself

uh, the Coug is def butt-adjacent

A buttbeat away

B.U.T.T. IN THE U.S.A

I first heard the term "buttrock" in the 90s.

and this queefdick

― ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal)

apparently so much as mentioning the '90s gave you a serious flashback