pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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See also: gammons.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

I know that complaining about October is beyond the scope of this thread — but this is currently promoted on Pfork’s home page, and it’s sooooo dumb: https://oct.co/articles/5-types-craft-beer-drinker

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

oof. that's kinda fascinating for the existential crisis it raises - maybe there's just not enough meaningful content about beer to have a whole website devoted to it.

enochroot, Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link

A first-day Buzzfeed intern would be embarrassed to hit publish on that.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link

Most of us remember that it doesn't really matter what you're drinking, as long as you're enjoying it.

Oh good, there was an utterly banal point to all this.

jmm, Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link

I like how one of the knocks on the stout enthusiast is basically that he’s fat.

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link

I resemble that remark

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:31 (four years ago) link

Is this... “humor”?

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/22-musical-predictions-for-the-2020s/

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link

it sure tries

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

Apparently: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/tags/humor/

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link

A seldom-used tag, but gold every time

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link

losing my mind thinking about the person on halsey’s team who had to tell her she just called for the collapse of one world trade https://t.co/eJJmK0KyQ7

— ben kesslen (@benkesslen) January 23, 2020

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link

That explains the lingering influence of artists once written off as angry women: Shania Twain, Alanis Morissette, and pre-acrobatics P!nk.

Ex-squeeze me(?) Shania, an "angry woman"?

dad genes (morrisp), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link

This review is hilarious

Though Manic features Halsey’s take on a handful of different genres—broody pop-R&B reminiscent of her early work; alt-rock-lite that is an aesthetic match to her persona; twangy country-pop sure to find a home on certain segments of pop radio—much of it has the same reflective surface and, at some points, the depth of an oil slick. The Morissette collab “Alanis’ Interlude,” which features a reference to John Mayer’s “Your Body Is a Wonderland,” is almost too irritating to endure: “Your pussy is a wonderland,” the pair warbles, infinitely more times than necessary. It is a low point for someone who is at times a clever songwriter.

There's so much shade in this paragraph that I keep finding albinos under it

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link

There's so much shade in this paragraph that I keep finding albinos under it

Wow <3

Montegays and Capulez (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

The "miserable Lyft ride" dig at Halsey reminded me of this Matty Perps tweet.

Can we give this stuff a more specific genre name, like Ubercore, since it's the music you always seem to hear in a ride share https://t.co/Us03SdPTZA

— Matthew Perpetua (@perpetua) December 31, 2019

jaymc, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link

wow another strike for twitter embeds

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link

ILM got there first

dad genes (morrisp), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link

I typically like their 6.5's better than their BNMs so maybe the Halsey is for me.

billstevejim, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

pick me up at 6

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 January 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

btw "Alanis' Interlude" is hilarious

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link

I'm listening to the entire Halsey album and so far its biggest sin is... it sounds like all the other music Halsey has released?

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 23 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link

Halsey IS...Halsey.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 January 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

she's certainly the most successful version of the "bananees" and "avocadees" indie-girl voice, correct?

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

what?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

from this: https://youtu.be/8SU0gFPMwP8

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

oh

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

isn't that basically just Billie Holliday

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

(by which I mean a bad approximation likely passed down through idk Macy Gray or something)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link

there's a whole category of poptronica/spotifycore songstresses who use that vocal mode, but im pretty sure that's a direct reference to cocorosie

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

who probably copped it from Karen Dalton

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

idk maybe this calls for an a thread equivalent to the old-man-hat-voice thread

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

I think there actually is a thread for it?

The real sin with "Alanis' Interlude" is orthographic... If you pronounce the "s" after the apostrophe, write the "s" after the apostrophe! Don't be thrown.

dad genes (morrisp), Thursday, 23 January 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

as they say, 0.0 jet reviews can’t melt steel beams

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 23 January 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link

i'm no p4k purist wishng for a return to the olden days, but ... why are they reviewing of Halsey album? does she barely slide in under the imaginary credibility bar they've got over there?

alpine static, Friday, 24 January 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link

reviewing *A* Halsey album

alpine static, Friday, 24 January 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link

she has hits

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2020 01:07 (four years ago) link

they'll review any major-label pop album regardless of artist credibility or number of hits (incl. if zero) if they can craft a quippy tweet out of it that'll generate lots of #engagement

for example they reviewed the flop/widely-mocked liam payne album recently, i guess b/c they couldn't resist joining in on the fun

presumably they'll limit that somewhat so as not to completely crowd out coverage of 'credible' releases that are (were?) their bread and butter, but as far as what's fair game to cover in the mainstream, it seems to be just about anything short of the most whitebread of adult contemporary artists

dyl, Friday, 24 January 2020 01:30 (four years ago) link

a couple things I should mention as correction:

(a) Pitchfork has writers who grew up with 1D as phenomenon. Why would they pitch a review to generate lots of #engagement?

(b) I pitched a review of Liam Payne's album b/c I wanted to know what the one of the lesser known members might come up with.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2020 01:39 (four years ago) link

fair points -- as someone with zero professional/journalistic experience i have no real idea of what kind of consideration goes into ultimately selecting releases to cover

but it does seem more frequent these days that their tweets linking to reviews of mainstream stars' records are packaged with 'shady' one-liners that are sure to be retweeted far-and-wide (including by those who won't even bother to click the link/read the review)

dyl, Friday, 24 January 2020 01:52 (four years ago) link

Speaking as a writer and a onetime editor who managed writers a couple decades younger than me, I can assure you the pay is so shitty and their hopes so beaten already that they're not thinking LOL #pitchfork WILL SURELY QUOTE THIS RAPIER OF A LINE AGAINST LIAM. Every writer at every time hopes to be read and hopes to write memorable prose; it's unfortunate how social media has made reviews marketing weapons.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link

as the asker, i'm just circling back to say: i did a little poking around and my bad, i knew they had started covering most mainstream pop but i guess i thought they still weren't touching *some* stuff ... i seem to recall a Whiney thread about this? ... anyway, it appears i'm wrong and pretty much anything is fair game. which is fine. now i know.

alpine static, Friday, 24 January 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

and I don't deny the financial advantages in the last five years to covering most mainstream pop. I'm just saying: the reviewers aren't cynical.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2020 01:58 (four years ago) link

i don't think it's weird they covered her at all, they reviewed her two previous albums. apart from p4k it's generally been critically received well enough and much better than her previous albums so i'm interested in checking it out

there is still some stuff they don't touch but it's generally un-hip major-label pop rock like imagine dragons-esque stuff (though they did review their latest) and twenty one pilots (which feels like a particularly strange omission, they have enough going on that i'd expect a p4k review to be able to have something interesting enough to say about them)

ufo, Friday, 24 January 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link

"guoid" and other diphthongizations in popular music

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 24 January 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

Five separate news items about Billie Eilish winning a Grammy

News about the death of Kobe, basketball player, but not a peep about Sean Reinert, musician

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 27 January 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

2017:

Pitchfork’s coverage of the 59th annual Grammy Awards yielded the music site’s highest traffic day ever last Monday. With 1.5 million unique viewers, the music site saw a 275 percent increase over its 400,000 average daily unique views.

jaymc, Monday, 27 January 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link

so sick of all these Bonnie Raitt articles!

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 27 January 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link

The Florida hip-hop continuum—from Miami bass to Trick Daddy to Rick Ross to Raider Klan—has never really fit neatly into the Southern rap tradition.


In what state do we think invented Southern rap?

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 07:52 (four years ago) link


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