The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

I liked those squigglies. Especially in the flatline state.

yeh. douglas hart's visuals were generally pretty nice. my favourite thing about the lighting has been walking into the venue and feeling like you're inside the loveless sleeve, if they've lit everything up in hyperpink hues.

as regards noise length then and now: it's gone from being about quarter of an hour to just over half; blown a wish and sueisfine have been bumped to accommodate it. i think the apex of the holocaust last time around was forty minutes. i LOVE people trying to document it, with any existing technology. even adjectives can not record its force.

i think the apex of the holocaust last time around was forty minutes

Thirty-five was what I got at the second 1992 show, so that sounds about right.

did you document the '92 show with similar diligence?

Aside from timing the holocaust section, no; my Marooned essay was only written a couple of years back, relying on my memory of the show.

I wish I had read this thread (or anything about MBV live show) before Thursday nite. I wasn't prepared for the 15 minute assault at the end. I actually was kind of annoyed (plus, having a head cold didn't help). I hope that reaction isn't too blasphemous around here.

Other than that, was totally blown away.

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/c/images/close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-7.jpg

It helps to know.

You guys that actually got to go, and you guys that listened to a 'recording' without checking the tracklisting.

Did you hear the "Dumm Dumm DummTTT" intro and go "oh shit, it's coming now!!"

Yeah, pretty much. Mackro and I exchanged glances and were all "Well, here we go!"

A friend today who works where I normally get breakfast on Saturday says two friends of hers who went both nights said that the first night the holocaust section was just loud but the second night actually made them throw up.

LA Times review and some more photos.

it was like the rock concert equivalent of the debut of the Most Xxtreem Ride Ever at Six Flags

That Brennan fella must be deaf by now.

Yeah, pretty much. Mackro and I exchanged glances and were all "Well, here we go!"

I knew it was on it's way, but I still shouted out "holy shit" when it kicked in

The horizontal lines (projected, moving up and down) during the latter half of the "death" part had my brain seeing all kinds of up and down movement that wasn't actually taking place. The amplified bass and kick drum action throughout the show constantly tickled my nostrils. I was sitting in the back. By the combination of the lights and sound I had intermittent hallucinations of the stage literally quaking from all of the vibration. Awesome show.

i was sitting in the bleachers and actually almost fell asleep during the death chord - it was weirdly soothing. that was also the only time i had my earplugs in, so most of the piercing highs were being filtered out. schlumps observation about the lighting and walking into the loveless sleeve otm, set the mood nicely. 'you never should' was particularly great, i liked how the machine gun snare fill part felt like it was in free time before slamming into that next chord. perhaps free time is a bad choice of words, but it felt like they broke out of the tempo of the song for that part each time it happened. best show i've ever been to

this has been one of the best threads i have ever read, thanks ILM for sharing your experiences!

i saw them twice in Los Angeles back in 1992. didn't think i could do it again but now i'm regretting not going to Santa Monica last Thursday night.

an article on the tour's sucess here: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003870094
i like this part:

But the stage is now set for more touring, and much bigger paydays, at some point down the road. Riley will only say, "With the success of what they've accomplished, I think they'll consider additional dates in the future." Hogan adds, "It would be foolish to not continue. People want to see more of it."

it does make me curious to know whether this tour really energized the band members or changed the way they feel about being My Bloody Valentine ...

I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt. At this point, they're under no illusions of how Kevin likes to work, let's put it that way.

I do remember that a few years back, in one of the Lost in Translation interviews, he said that when he was asked to do some new songs, ie "City Girl," he said it felt like he was going back to imitate a sound where he wasn't at anymore. Something's changed, obviously -- if I can draw a possible comparison, it reminds me of how the two Bauhaus reunions came about, where the money was a draw from the start but which turned out more to be a starting point than a be-all/end-all.

He told me back in 1995 or whenever it was that the third album was almost ready and the word about the two new albums feels of a piece with that -- the thing to do at this point is to have *no* expectations and just let things happen as they do.

Wow, it's so great to read the experiences of this band filtering across the world. Especially the way it seems to be growing and getting more intense... It makes me want to see it again at the END of the tour, as well as having seen the first night.

(OK, not the actual first night - that would have been the ICA warm up gigs which D went to but I didn't.)

Because, having seen it on the first night, I couldn't imagine it getting any better. But it sounds like it has.

Elvis Telecom consistently OTM about teh feel of the sound.

I do enjoy that I've been able to see MBV close out a tour twice in LA, as M. B. sez, wrapping it up seems to bring the best out of them.

One minor thing I was bummed about -- the T-shirts were all right but nothing stellar. I like my 1992 shirts more!

Yeah, I brought money to buy several t-shirts but didn't pick up any as they were really drab.

I thought the two-tone dark blue/darker blue Glider cover shirt was OK (I bought one)

Yeah, the t-shirts were a bit shite. The scalpers selling bootlegged ones outside the Roundhouse had much better wares.

tell me, are bootlegged concert shirts these days still covered in glitter?...oh, the Nazareth/Jethro Tull/Blue Oyster Cult seizure-inducing togs of yore!

tell me, are bootlegged concert shirts these days still covered in glitter?

It's not glittery, but my "official" Spacemen 3 shirt I bought at the Spectrum show is silver-print on black. It's terrific!

the gray women's glider shirt was pretty cool - the pink overtones made it look like it was designed to be seen through 3d glasses. i ended up w/ the turquoise YMMR one, nice color at least.

oh and upthread, the song i was talking about was actually 'nothing much to lose', not 'you never should'

last thing - was anyone else slightly bummed out by some of the main melody lines being sequenced/pre-recorded and not played on guitar? ('i only said', for example) kevin played the woozy lead melody on 'come in alone' and i found myself wishing that they did the same on all of them. 'soon' w/ the spectrum dudes was nice :)

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Apparently the remastered version of Loveless has leaked, a two disc set containing the original album and the remaster. Anyone know if it's for real this time, it's finally on it's way? (haven't heard it yet)

i'll investigate, but the isn't anything remaster was amazing

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> Apparently the remastered version of Loveless has leaked, a two disc set containing the original album and the remaster.

promos were sent out to journalists for the original re-release date in the summer, see post upthread here:

The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

was a piece in the guardian on friday about loud gigs which, of course, mentioned mbv. can't find it online though.

was a piece in the guardian on friday about loud gigs which, of course, mentioned mbv. can't find it online though.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/09/rock-my-bloody-valentine-tinnitus

follow up letters here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/10/hearing-damage-music-gigs

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Ah, figured it out. Schlump, you don't have those Isn't Anything remasters do you?

i thought they were returning as a crappy slasher flick

ban me

In 3-D!

O man, if only that movie really were a 3D MBV performance (if goddam U2 can do it, hey, why not?)

I actually nearly tricked a friend of mine into going to see that with me by telling him that it was.

If you had been able to trick him, would you have actually gone to the film? It probably does suck, but having seen Beowulf last year, I'm of the opinion that the spectacle of digital 3-D alone is probably worth the admission price for any shitty film it happens to be applied to.

Oh, I still plan on going. I am all for 3-D slasher films. But it's probably not going to be as awesome (to get back to the subject) as an MBV concert film in 3-D would be.

here i was digging around for i.a., out of the kindness of my heart for a perfect stranger - i didn't see that it was for you, whatisup jona.

Ta Mark. Everything's good, like.

Anyway. MBV keep returning but no-one seems that bothered this year. They're playing Primavera in Barcelona (twice!, like what Portishead did last year, once outdoors and once indoors. Not sure what a fully seated indoor MBV gig would be like), and even that hasn't convinced me that I can really afford to go again.

i thought it was pretty interesting that they're touring again; it means wheeling out their big p.a., which they mightn't do for just a couple of shows. they were set to record at the end of last year, so it's nice that they're doing things. i'd be surprised if they did another round of the same kind of touring, in the same places.

Looks like MBV is hitting Coachella this year (same night as Throbbing Gristle, oooh!) ... I definitely am not going, but, er, what are the chances of them doing more US dates around the same time? In Denver, maybe? Pleeze? With Throbbing Gristle? The chances are REALLY GOOD, right?

Yeah, I was wondering that myself. I presume no other 'official' SoCal appearance given how festival booking works. I'll be at EMP so I'll miss it, that said if this appearance means new songs, then I'll be jealous as hell. Damn glad I caught the earlier LA show!

connecticut? yeah probably not

Kraftwerk played a show in Denver a couple days before they played Coachella last year, so I'm crossing my fingers ...

Having missed them last year, due to truly unfortunate circumstances, I am willing to travel. Please come back, Kev.

Oh the irony if MBV finally come to Seattle just before or after Ned is here for EMP Pop Music Conference

What, so Mike McG and I can both miss the show and compare non-notes? :-D