Defend Phil Collins

(I'm speaking of Trick of the Tail and Abacab)

"it's no fun/being an illegal alien!"

holy shit new modern drummer has FOURTEEN PHIL COLLINS BEATS

"He's totally punk rock, he's got on sneakers and a suit! It's crazy!"

per the Miami Vice argument upthread, Phil actually had a song on the Miami Vice 2 sdtrk, one of his best solo songs, 'Take Me Home.' fcking great tune.

do you still subscribe to modern drummy, cutty

Phil is an Honorary Negro. That's all the justification he needs.

I hate myself for reviving this thing TWICE, but I just listened to Hello I Must Be Going, and he can do the untrustworthy-cad-narrator as well as Randy Newman. Not all the time, but when he's on. "Like China" is probably the smartest song ever about defloweration. "Don't Let Him Steal Your Heart Away" is probably bad advice.

Also, my wife learned in her master's percussion methods class that Phil has an official cadence named after him. You know what it sounds like. DA-dum!, DA-dum!, DA-dum!, DA-dum!, dum-dum ("I can feel it coming in the air tonight...."). It's also in "Thru These Walls" and probably a ton of other shit.

Not that Phil needs any more defending, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s

Or rather...

http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/31/gorilla.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s

Har!

Has no one noted what a brilliant 'video actor' Phil Collins is? Not every artist puts their *all* into their visual performance (nevermind exact proper lip-synching) as Phil Collins does. Like, in the video for 'Mama', he literally looks like he's going mad with rage, hatred and desire, and you really believe it, you can't take your eyes off him

i was listening to "abacab" the other day...it's such a weird album, sort of mainstream 80s pop, but there's still odd structural and instrumental passages that betray that they used to be prog chops dudes, strange mix and i kind of love it...there's a weird subgenre of music like this, all the prog dudes really embraced the 80s, like the 80s yes albums, and asia, stuff like that...maybe rush's 80s albums like signals and grace under pressure have that same vibe (tho rush wasn't really prog exactly)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QZOc-DbE5ko

"the "gangsta" way he dealt with his wife's affair with his decorator (ie, an ultra-spiteful appearance on TOTP with a tin of paint on the piano)."

anyone have a youtube of this?

i was listening to "abacab" the other day...it's such a weird album, sort of mainstream 80s pop, but there's still odd structural and instrumental passages that betray that they used to be prog chops dudes, strange mix and i kind of love it...

This goes for a lot of late 70s/early 80s AOR by musicians with a prog background.
Not a fan of "Abacab" though.

What are some other good examples of prog bands getting poppy, yet remaining great?

The best I can think of is Le Orme's late '70s albums (particularly 'Storia O Leggenda'). They always seemed more inspired to me compared to their more famous early '70s work.

All Rush from '78-82

I'd forgotten about these when I revived, but here's some PC "fan fiction" that might appeal to readers of this thread. See if you can spot the familiar ILXor in the second one!

They must have thought we had a butler.

There is a married bachelor, therefore the moon is made of green cheese.

Enter Kogan, a Hispanic (we won't insult him by assuming Mexican) haircutter and zapatarist who owns the joint and digs the Latin hip hop.

It's easy to only remember In The Air Tonight on Miami Vice, but he did convincingly portray a coke dealer creep aswell!

Defend Phil Collins

No.

never ban Bo Jackson Overdrive

Bo is rong. Wind & Wuthering is reason enough to not murder Phil Collins completely.

well actually I did like A Trick of the Tail and Abacab. My vitriol is mostly for his solo career (although yes, "in the air tonight" ist neato)

Pigeons Ep was good genesis past Wind and Wuthering.

I'll admit to not having heard Wind and Wuthering so I have no opinion on it.

on some Who video he's interviewed about keith moon's death. he said, "yeah, when i heard about it, i called up townshend and said, 'listen...'" right here you think he's gonna say, "i'm really sorry about keith, he was amazing, my condolences" etc. etc. nope. he says, "listen, if you need a drummer...."

he had his moments, but phil in the Who fills me with terror. nonetheless, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkOLi7iXR1k

My vitriol is mostly for his solo career

TS forgiving talented people for turning shit because they were good once vs burning them for turning shit

Tough decision

Phil Collins solo:
"In The Air Tonight" and the entire "Face Value" album
"Thru These Walls", "I Don't Care Anymore" and several great songs from the followup
"Against All Odds"
"Take Me Home" (and some lesser known gems from the same album such as "Long Long Way")

Nuff said.

Admittedly, it has been pretty depressive from the 90s onwards though.

He sounded great on a recent reunion tour recording I heard. Especially on oldies like "In The Cage". I have no stomach for ballads a la "Hold On My Heart", etc, tho. Still, I Defend the man!

Oh, and Wind And Wuthering is excellent.

Best ever album to play on a cold windy morning.

phil doesn't need you guys

bone thugs got his back

i have affection for his first three solo albums, which my dad played endlessly when i were wee.

"Easy Lover" and "In The Air Tonight" are probably better than your favorite singer's best songs. "Land of Confusion" too for that matter. I know nothing about his drumming but I don't care about prog rock at all. He should have always been making pop music.

The restaurant I'm currently working at recently hosted a party (complete with a DJ) for a bunch of teachers and administrators from a local highschool, with about 70% of the attendees being black people in their 30's and 40's. The DJ put on "Easy Lover" at one point and it was just like he put on Cameo or something. Good Times.

Land of Confusion was a Genesis t00n! booyah! (not that he probably didn't have most of the say behind it, but)....

....don't care about prog rock?

...DON'T CARE ABOUT PROG ROCK?

Selling England by the Pound > every Phil Collins solo album!

"Easy Lover" and "In The Air Tonight" are probably better than your favorite singer's best songs

fuck yes. this has been stuck in my head for days and i don't mind one bit

Gated drums and his daughter is cute.

His music doesn't sound the least bit stale....I have to give him credit for that.

"Behind the Lines" is in my head right now. The solo version allegedly inspired by listening to high-speed rewind of the midtempo band version. It is a good track. I'm also thinking about some of the more spacious and well-constructed fills in "I Missed Again."

phil noooooo

http://www.spinner.com/2009/09/10/phil-collins-may-never-drum-again-due-to-spinal-injury