Good books about music

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I picked up the new bookon Garage Rock 5 years ahead of my time by Seth Bovey which I'm a coupe of chapters into and seems to be an ok overview so far. THink I've come across one thing I majorly disagreed with so far and I think reviews I'd read had some issues with it. BUt thought I'd pick it up since I like the genre even if it has accumulated a somewhat sheeplike audience in places.
Always think its a great launching spot for further musical investigation rather than being great to try to recreate everything in some search for a highly pseudo authenticity. I thought one thing the garage process replaced was the idea of authenticity as it recontextualises influences into the players home environment.

Also got Defying Gravity jordan's story the book about JOrdan the shop assistant in Westwood/Mclaren's shops so likely to cover Bowie fandom and early punk. BUt so far I'veonly gotteninto her childhood.

Got lucky with the new US zine Maggot Brain which is on its first edition and turned up in Rough Trade between a couple of visits on Thursday last week. I'd asked about it in the early afternoon and te assistant wasn't aware of it. When I went back for the Paul Morley/Kevin Cummings interview it had arrived and the sae assistant came up to me with it.

Picked up another copy of Memphis 68 cos I mislaid the earlier copy I bought last year. GOt a book by Mark Kermode on his musical experiences which was also in the 2 for £5 in FOPP.
Also MIke Heron's book on his 60s/ISb and earlier experiences which was in the same deal.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 December 2019 12:55 (six years ago)

How is Maggot Brain? I was thinking of getting a subscription, but havent had a chance to leaf through one in the wild

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 27 December 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

Seems ok still haven't really read much of it put it in the wrong pile in my old bedroom so have been reading other stuff.
Neglected to mention the new Ugly Things had turned up in Rough Trade before my first trip Thursday last week so have spent more 6ime with that.
& I am reminded of Motorboooty and Grade Royale by what I have seen so far as well as a few other retro looking things.
Think it's worthwhile so hope it continues. Dunno how I'm going to get hold of more issues though . May be safer to get somebody in ireland to stock it anyway.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 December 2019 20:58 (six years ago)

Is there a good book out there about Willie Nelson or am I best off just reading his memoir?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 27 December 2019 21:20 (six years ago)

With musicians you gotta read the memoir AND the biography.

everything, Friday, 27 December 2019 23:31 (six years ago)

He's written books (or at least they have the grain and aroma of his words and music and oh yeah voice), and materializes memorably in xpost Southwest Shuffle: Pioneers of Honky-Tonk, Western Swing, and Country Jazz (handsome trade pb w good pix, Routledge, 2003), by Rick Kienzle and Michael Streissguth's Outlaw: Waylon, Willie, Kris, and the Renegades of Nashville, but you might start with daughter Susie Nelson's Heart Worn Memories, which, despite its title, has a lot of spark and rueful humor, often at her own expense (in the church where she's about to marry Mr. Wrong, Willie observes that there's probably a back door to the joint). No scandal-mongering, but she lifts the lid of the Nelson Tennessee family complex, and cogently contextualizes, distinguishes the path of her short-lived brother Billy. Also good stuff about music (Dad climbs into the tent on her teen bedroom floor, smokes a joint with her while they listen to Hendrix).

dow, Saturday, 28 December 2019 04:58 (six years ago)

Anyone read Tricky's autobiography yet?

Maresn3st, Saturday, 28 December 2019 12:42 (six years ago)

No want to get it though.
Was looking at it in foyles yesterday.
Saw they had the Debbie Harry and Flea memoirs at half rrp if anybody needs them.
Think I will see what Waterstones has at post xmas cut price later this afternoon.

Stevolende, Saturday, 28 December 2019 13:01 (six years ago)

Oh yeah Foyles had signed copies of the Tricky.
My Defying Gravity is signed too which I hadn't noticed when I was looking at what I assume was the same copy on the shelf this time last week.

Stevolende, Saturday, 28 December 2019 13:04 (six years ago)

Waterstones has the new prince book on half price as well as the 2 I mentioned from Foyles.

Stevolende, Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:36 (six years ago)

Enjoyed the Jeff Tweedy book

rizzx, Saturday, 28 December 2019 19:09 (six years ago)

I think Joe Nick Patoski’s book on Willie Nelson is supposed to be good.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 29 December 2019 00:38 (six years ago)

Agree about the Tweedy book. He has a great way with a story.

I've waited years for a Todd Rundgren memoir, and it finally came out last year. The Individualist. He's also a good storyteller, very efficient with the written word, and it has plenty of the wry aphorisms you'd expect. But it has been poorly (i.e. not) edited, typos flying off the page everywhere. Looks like it came right out of his computer, first draft and autocorrected. (The Monkeys?!) Good read but frustrating as well.

henry s, Sunday, 29 December 2019 00:56 (six years ago)

I just got reminded that there is a book on Italian Prog and has been for the last few years. ItalianProg by Augusto Croce.
There is a Look Inside feature on Amazon that looks good.
But that's all I've seen on it. I have also seen mention that the translation is a bit rough and clunky etc.
Anybody got it and had a better chance to look at it?

Stevolende, Friday, 10 January 2020 11:50 (six years ago)

the translation is a bit rough and clunky etc.

no it's actually like that in the original. author was really keen to capture the essence of the music in writing

budo jeru, Friday, 10 January 2020 16:03 (six years ago)

I'd also be interested in finding out how good the Vernon Joynson book on punk/postpone etc etc is.
Just got the one by him on Latin America and Canada at the time of psych and prog . Somehow missed hearing it was around though did get the one released a few months earlier which was initially an expansion on part of the same book. Covered Asia the antipodes and Africa.
Got the book slightly used for a pretty decent price.

Stevolende, Friday, 10 January 2020 16:55 (six years ago)

one month passes...

So yeah this Mike Barnes book on 70s UK prog is pretty great.

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 12:28 (six years ago)

three weeks pass...

Rob Sheffield's 50 best rock memoirs:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/books-greatest-rock-memoirs-of-all-time-161198/

I've only read #1--my pronounced preference for biographies over autobiographies extends to music, baseball, everything.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:57 (six years ago)

jeez, I've only read 5 of these, and I thought I played a pretty good rock memoir game.

henry s, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:06 (six years ago)

I've read seven, and there's one or two others on that list I might want to read. Slash's book was one of the dullest things I've ever read; 400 pages of lorem ipsum would have been more diverting.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:21 (six years ago)

The Peter Hook blurb mentions the Bernard Sumner book, but not the recent one from Stephen Morris, which I found to be a decent read (also author seems like a genuinely good guy).

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:26 (six years ago)

Good revive, I could use a good rock memoir right now

morrisp, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:49 (six years ago)

Don't know why I picked Don Felder's Between Heaven and Hell for latest victim of my totally unfair Random Read Test, but it passed and I spent the day at the library going through the whole thing, which never happens. No regerts---detailed rave here:
A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

dow, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:00 (six years ago)

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dow, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:03 (six years ago)

We might should have more cover art on this thread---or would it be distracting. irrelevant?

dow, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:04 (six years ago)

Groupie memoirs are a booming industry, from Pamela Des Barres’ classic I’m With the Band to Pattie Boyd’s fab Wonderful Tonight. But the tiara goes to hair-metal video vixen Bobbie Brown, who contributed precisely zero to music history, yet became a star by shaking what mama gave her in Warrant and Great White clips.

yuck

budo jeru, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 19:40 (six years ago)

The top 3 wouldn't load for me, if anyone can paste?

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:28 (six years ago)

Top 3 memoirs on Rolling Stone list? Is that what you mean?
Dylan, Springsteen, Patti Smith

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:44 (six years ago)

I've only read the Patti Smith one. I'm not big on bios in general; prefer critical readings of an artist, which is while I'll probably read at least a dozen more 33 1/3's before I ever get to that copy of Chronicles, Volume 1 that I've had sitting, unread, on my shelf for years.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:54 (six years ago)

Let me be the first to say that nothing about Chronicles, Volume is like a typical rock bio though.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:58 (six years ago)

I haven't read it, but I just received John Corbett's Pick Up the Pieces: Excursions in Seventies Music today (one of the books I bought last week while trying to support one of my favorite indie bookstores). I've heard lots of good things about it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:59 (six years ago)

Chronicles is one of the weirdest books I've ever read. Gorgeous George, meticulous making-of chapter on one of those '80s albums vs. hardly a word (from what I remember) on '65/66...and I realize its perverseness is why people love it, and that there's a mountain of writing on '65/66 already.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:05 (six years ago)

Top 3 memoirs on Rolling Stone list? Is that what you mean?

yes, ta - I got a SHOW MORE link after Questlove, that when clicked erased all the previous 47 and loaded comments instead (the first of which was raging that the list was invalid because there were books by rappers on it)

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:37 (six years ago)

Including audiobooks, I've read (or "read") 8 from the Rolling Stone list: 6 of the top 7, plus Kristin Hersh and Kim Gordon. (I'll get to you, Questlove.) Especially recommend seeking out Viv Albertine (print) and Patti Smith (audio).

punning display, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 22:08 (six years ago)

I haven't read it, but I just received John Corbett's Pick Up the Pieces: Excursions in Seventies Music today (one of the books I bought last week while trying to support one of my favorite indie bookstores). I've heard lots of good things about it.

It's a good one. Corbett's one of my heroes. I interviewed him last year when it came out (warning: podcast - you will hear my speaking voice).

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 23:38 (six years ago)

I note that David Lee Roth’s book makes the list, but Sammy Hagar‘s — which I have actually read, for some reason — does not.

morrisp, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 23:40 (six years ago)

David Lee Roth's book is v good.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 02:29 (six years ago)

There’s a great NewsRadio episode (“Chock”) in which Bill McNeal (Phil Hartman’s character) reads Crazy From the Heat... he keeps bringing it up, recounting anecdotes, etc.; then it turns out he has no idea who David Lee Roth is (“I think he was a singer before he turned to writing”).

morrisp, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 03:28 (six years ago)

ha :)

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 03:57 (six years ago)

I can imagine someone reading only DLR’s book, I can imagine someone reading both DLR’s book and Sammy’s, I cannot imagine someone only reading Sammy’s

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 04:16 (six years ago)

I'm not a big Dylan guy, but I read Chronicles and finished it feeling like it's pretty bad as like, A Dylan Biography. I enjoyed reading it, but it felt like I was missing a lot of knowledge that it assumed I had. What's the best Dylan bio out there?

triggercut, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 06:22 (six years ago)

going into that sheffield list i was anticipating responding 'no rod stewart, no credibility' but there rod is, high up there, at that. his eloquence is so surprising you can't help but admire him

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:34 (six years ago)

Dean Wareham's book is really good, he's v frank about Damon & Naomi but doesn't let himself off the hook.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:53 (six years ago)

(xpost) The only one I know I've read for sure is Anthony Scaduto's, the first and most ancient--came out in the early '70s. I read it 40 years ago, so I don't remember a thing; I don't think it was all that well received, by Dylan especially. The most famous is Robert Shelton's, which was anticipated for years--it's his Times review on reproduced on the first album. I think I read that when it came out. But I'm not sure--I might have just skipped to the end, where he interviews Dylan. I think he does, anyway. My memory's terrible, as you can see.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:07 (six years ago)

Kristin Hersh and Viv Albertine’s books are fantastic. I’d have included Playing the Bass With Three Left Hands by Will Carruthers. And its not technically a rock memoir, but Really the Blues by Mezz Mezzrow (especially since Dylan took bits and pieces of it for his own memoir).

JoeStork, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:48 (six years ago)

i liked the kristin hersh book about vic chesnutt too (depressing obviously)

na (NA), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 16:51 (six years ago)

Loved the Hersh autobiog (predictably). Have bought her Chesnutt one as well, but am stalling at diving in, possibly for reasons expressed by na there.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:35 (six years ago)

Dylan's Chronicles I is fantastic. It is not really an autobio though.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:38 (six years ago)

I want to take a minute to Stan for a very obvious choice, one that most here will have probably already read, or at least been aware of - Hit Men: Power Brokers and Fast Money Inside the Music Business. It's the most entertaining book on the pop-music business that I ever read, and I've read it 20-odd-some years ago. There are a million other books, most of which are mentioned in this treasure of a thread, but this book explains 70s-90s major label business more than any other book. 

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:40 (six years ago)

I read a book a few years back written by Jacob Slichter (drummer for Semisonic) on a recommendation by a friend, it's a great read and Jacob is a really engaging writer, it's the boom and bust tale of Semisonic (and a bit about Trip Shakespeare) but very good nonetheless.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:49 (six years ago)


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