pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

to be fair, i'm an old school hiphop head and i have never liked the chronic either.

doggystyle and dogg food tho? yes. those are both good.

kim hill interview addressing many of the same issues (and lots of others) but from inside looking out
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/opinion/black-eyed-peas-kim-hill.html
it's an interesting look back!

haven't watched it yet, but am thrilled to see a kim hill mention.

okay, after having watched it, i can say one thing for sure: kim hill will never receive anything except unending love from me. i wish i still had the sugar hill cd, but it has been lost to several moves.

otherwise, yeah: she addresses some really good points very articulately.

thank you for posting, ulysses.

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the chronic rules

linsecurity bear (sic) at 12:22 16 Dec 19

Dre barely used samples before The Chronic, nearly everything he ever did was programmed by himself or others, with live players any time he could afford them


?? Straight Outta Compton has tons of samples!!

american bradass (BradNelson) at 8:33 16 Dec 19

Perhaps it's possible to see these splurges of verbal violence as automatic responses to a life of crack-fuelled gang violence, much in the same way that vomit and diarrhoea are symptoms of gastroenteritis.

I can flow like pee coming out you-know-what
Or some dookie, diarrhea coming out your butt - Shaq Diesel, I Hate 2 Brag

Pitchfork being so psyched that Obama shares some of their musical taste really sums them up about now in a way.

?? Straight Outta Compton has tons of samples!!

some of the songs on Straight Outta Compton have a sample or three, only two or three use a bunch in Bomb Squad-influenced fashion, and he made idk a couple of hundred records that aren't Straight Outta Compton

there's probably as much sampling on The Chronic as on his previous records added together

Pitchfork being so psyched that Obama shares some of their musical taste really sums them up about now in a way.

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:23 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/18084-anohni-drone-bomb-me/

cool

sounds like a fun happy tune

That song sucks really hard

i guess this is the thread where i would complain about the phrase “personified the hypocrisy behind climate change”

Oh snap, he’s got a few of my faves on his list

I don’t get why “Con Altura” is the year’s consensus Rosalía track, when “Aute Cuture” is such a hotter jam!

xpost to sic in the era of sampling he was using a few samples per track like in line with most producers

here's the DOC

https://www.whosampled.com/album/The-D.O.C./No-One-Can-Do-It-Better/

here's Easy Duz It

https://www.whosampled.com/album/Eazy-E/Eazy-Duz-It/

Above the Law's first album

https://www.whosampled.com/album/Above-the-Law/Livin%27-Like-Hustlers/

100 Miles and Runnin

https://www.whosampled.com/N.W.A/100-Miles-and-Runnin%27/samples/

I don’t get why “Con Altura” is the year’s consensus Rosalía track, when “Aute Cuture” is such a hotter jam!

agreed

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-200-best-albums-of-the-2010s/

upper mississippi is otm

yeah my point re Dre is that he had a fairly brief period of sampling (ie once he could afford it), mostly used them very sparingly when he did*, and The Chronic was probably the peak of his sampling period, not a throwing off of shackles to which he had been inexorably bound for eight years -- and his additionally using live playing on The Chronic was standard across his career to date, not an unprecedented innovation

* the track 100 Miles & Runnin' is a WILD outlier

Yo, man, that's the formula

The Dre productions from 1987-1991 are absolutely bursting with samples. He was a Bomb Squad fan. Suggesting otherwise is insanity.

There's parts of the 8-Ball remix that are like Steinski or something, foh with that

dre has consistently sampled throughout his entire career. getting musicians to come in and replay a loop of a leon haywood or david axelrod record is "technically" not sampling outright, but c'mon.

this is my favorite sample-heavy/proto-Bomb Squad/peak era Dr. Dre production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXGgWf2lacM

(also love how the main JB sample is from an outtake/"untitled instrumental" that was first released *that year*)

er okay *a year earlier* but whatever

and that's the short version!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCGI_R36oVc

mostly used them very sparingly when he did*

anyway yeah I agree w ums and whiney that this isn't really accurate

Did you hear Dave Grohl recruited the surviving members of Nirvana, along with other individual people that do have actual names, for a performance?

OK so I guess there were technically players besides the core 3 but it sounds like an intentional way to frame it to get better SEO than simply "Krist Novoselic". I was amused by this.

Dave should bring in all the old Nirvana drummers

and that guy who became an Army Ranger or whatever

He was a Bomb Squad fan. Suggesting otherwise is insanity.

oh word? my mistake, I should have listened to this guy

use a bunch in Bomb Squad-influenced fashion

While k bye for now may not have much new information, it builds on our understanding of Grande as an artist.

not to pick on this particular reviewer, but this sentence sort of sums up the trend toward treating pop artists as Rolling Stone used to treat, say, Jackson Browne back in the 70s.

reports of the death of rockism greatly exaggerated

the peter gabriel sunday review was really good imo

xxp Yeah, the Ariana review is fine -- but the overarching theme of whether "we need" a live album (or whether it's "necessary") is strange, especially considering it's a digital-only release, aimed mainly at fans, etc.

Karin Hellqvist – Flock 6.8
Kanye West – Jesus Is Born 7.4

Truly a Catholic reach.

Lol. The write up of the former reads more like a 7.6 tbf, have you heard it?

Not yet, but I'm a fan of most of those composers and can hardly imagine their works for solo violin & electronics being less compelling than Jesus Is Fucking Born.

Hear, hear.

There is an egregious grammar mistake in the first paragraph of that Kanye review.

Actually there are two (though one may be better classified as "incorrect use of idiom" rather than "incorrect grammar")

lmao at the description of the choir, which really comes across like the author has never actually heard a choir before

The author also likes putting ideas in opposition that actually reinforce each other

For someone who built his earliest songs out of extracting vocal loops from obscure, sometimes decades-old songs, Kanye has seen the way musicians can be resurrected and given new life.

this sentence hurts my brain

It's SO BAD