Previously critically acclaimed and/or successful acts who are already being written out of attempts at '10s canon-building

Most of the Ariel Pink stuff from this decade is really good. Especially Before Today.

Remember that Dr. Dre album that people lost their shit over for like 2 weeks and then forgot about completely?

vice's best of albums of the 2010s list makes a case for salem's importance to ~the decade~ for what it's worth, i also think they're remembered fondly by a lot of people

sleigh bells

Ariel Pink's work got better in the 2010s anyway

not sure I agree. Worn Copy is the Ariel Pink album I really love.

I thought Benji was interesting for a few listens but don’t want to revisit it now.

Far Side Virtual is something, I think its relentless cheeriness is kind of hard to take but maybe it will be a rediscovered classic a few decades from now

Round and Round is great though

I really liked and related to the amateur quality of Ariel Pink's first recordings. the inspiration was so perfect that It was hard for me to accept him as a star after that

"harder better faster stronger" was not a bigger hit than "one more time" lol. "one more time" was daft punk's first single to get any appreciable airplay at top 40 stations in the states, tho as noted above it didn't go especially far in that respect. getting any airplay at all >>>> being incorporated into a couple cute animations on newgrounds/ebaumsworld/ytmnd

sleigh bells

― kornrulez6969

They were relevant for a minute yes but that was in 2009.

remember when Lil Yachty was going to beckon in a brand new era of youth music?

My answer would be completely biased by what I think should be forgotten, which is really just what I never caught to. Ariel, trap, dubstep are all there. For example I also really hate all abstract / industrial hip hop. I hate stuff like Car seat Headrest. But I'd be reading too much into it if it does not appear in decade-list: it does not mean much anyway. Lol at being surprised at not seing EDM for example, that's a specialized genre that does not appeal across the audience so I wouldn't read any denial into it.
"Significance" is really a pompous term as well.
10 years is a long-time too: something not being fresh anymore doesn't mean it stopped being good...
And imo you're all flipping on RAM: I get lucky and other hits belong to any good 2010s playlist. Kanye's songs also really endure, idk, Fade came on yesterday, what a song !

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Oh fucking car seat headrest. That is one of those acts which I’m thankful of how they’ve faded into nothingness.

EDM was one of the biggest trends in pop this decade so it's interesting that very little of it caught on critically much at all

also, what other hits on RAM? "Get Lucky" was the only hit from it. it's a decent enough track and it's nice that Daft Punk had a world-conquering hit and all but it was certainly overrated at the time and it's not really one of the best tracks of the decade. RAM as an album doesn't really hold up well at all either. there's some decent enough stuff on it but it's really bloated and a lot of the songwriting is lacking.

'Let England Shake' has been placing very highly in UK lists but I'd argue it resonates particularly strongly right now given the direction Britain is going in.

Terius Nash is mostly a 00s phenomenon but considering songs as undeniable as Yamaha and Schooling Life dropped this decade he's fallen off heavily in almost every way and no one's really talking about him right now. I'm not sure that would have been expected in 2010 but he feels firmly on the wrong side of the generational divide and you don't even encounter him working with A-List artists any more. Punching your pregnant girlfriend will probably do that to a career, mind.

Sleigh Bells is a good answer.

EDM was the sound of the first half of the decade, of course it never got any kind of critical respect, especially among the "former punks who now like rap" demographic which always seems to be very vocal in certain publications. But, if you were into mp3 blogs / hypemachine at the time though, it was a very different picture.

Let England Shake is much too positive about England for my taste, even more so in 2019.

'What is the glorious fruit of our land? The fruit is deformed children' a bit too glowing for you?

Punching your pregnant girlfriend will probably do that to a career, mind.

Argh never even heard about this

Let England Shake is nowheresville in recent US polls, but was #2 Pazz & Jop 2010

xxp was thinking more of "England"

xp

er.. I meant 2011. btw, see also: ' Kaputt' by Destroyer

i've seen kaputt in a bunch of decade lists high enough up

"former punks who now like rap"

add to rap "pop, r&b, and mainstream country for some reason" and this category comprises the majority of people born before the millennium who currently write about popular music

kaputt definitely still has clout

- People who fell firmly on the wrong side of the generational/cultural/political watershed that took place in the middle of the decade.

― Matt DC, Friday, December 6, 2019 12:26 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this is otm but unfair, because it assumes there was some massive poll or election. I am loath to evoke 'rockism' in this discussion but what you are talking about is a lot of collateral damage based on qualities that are not so much explicit as they are (most often wrongfully) perceived. Guy with guitar = OK Boomer. It also reeks of ageism tbh

https://pics.me.me/people-always-say-ok-boomer-but-never-you-ok-boomer-65677572.png

Remember that brief moment in 2015 when all the critics were highly praising Tobias Jesso Jr? That was weird.

lol xp

How about Real Estate? Feel like Atlas and especially Days were universally acclaimed when they came out. When Pitchfork did their half way list, both albums were in there with Days just outside the top 10. They barely made an appearance in end of decade list and I've not seen them appear anywhere else. Maybe I'm just influenced by how little I listen to them anymore.

xp FWIW I have no dog in this fight: 90% of the new music I listen to is techno, experimental, and metal that would never bother any EOY lists, and I've never knowingly heard a note of music by Ariel Pink, Kurt Vile, Sun Kil Moon, etc

Remember that brief moment in 2015 when all the critics were highly praising Tobias Jesso Jr? That was weird.

― MarkoP, Saturday, December 7, 2019 10:01 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this was a very, very dark period during which the indieverse decided it needed its own James Blunt I guess. I am very glad that's over

How is War on Drugs' stock these days?

xp FWIW I have no dog in this fight: 90% of the new music I listen to is techno, experimental, and metal that would never bother any EOY lists, and I've never knowingly heard a note of music by Ariel Pink, Kurt Vile, Sun Kil Moon, etc

― Paul Ponzi

if you have no dog in the fight why are you jumping into it?

Also, I haven't looked into many end of the decade lists, but I doubt "Blurred Lines" is on many of them.

I was dancing at a bar with colleagues on a work trip a few nights ago. The DJ started with ’90s hits, and gradually mixed in more current stuff (until he was playing mainly current rap). The sound system was very loud, really banging. Of the 40 or so tracks we heard (including many well-loved classics), “Blurred Lines” was the only one that made me go, “Oh shit...” as it played.

I don’t care how creepy that Thicke guy is, or how much $$ he & Pharrell had to pay out — it’s a great track.

R.A.P. Music in my top 15

So is Let England Shake.

Oh fucking car seat headrest. That is one of those acts which I’m thankful of how they’ve faded into nothingness.

They’re still around, touring, etc.; their follow-up releases to Teens of Denial have just sort of been punts (a re-recording of an older album, and a live LP). Anyway, how were they (of all acts) plaguing your ears at any point? You sound like you’re talking about The Offspring or something, not an easily avoidable indie rock band.

How about Real Estate?

Any legacy they might have had was tainted by Mr. Ducktails, no?

if you have no dog in the fight why are you jumping into it?

― Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Saturday, December 7, 2019 10:17 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I guess because as an old I find the knee jerk and arbitrary drawing of "generational/cultural/political" battle lines wrt criticism troubling and generally Bad For Art. (I also acknowledge that such demarcations are not at all new thing)

I guess because as an old

― Paul Ponzi

...you do have a dog in the fight?

As someone who definitely doesn’t have a dog in this fight, because dogfights are cruel, i want to point out that it’s possible to have an opinion about something without being personally connected or affected by it

Carseatheadrest was not avoidable 2016/2017, he was being hyped in almost every forum and zine I frequented at the time except for ilxor, thank god. Label was even pushing money for him to appear in every music related youtube vids for a while, top of my mind I remember he was doing npr, kexp, tonight shows and it kept appearing as recommended music vids.

I’m overreacting but his music gave me a very visceral reaction.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Japan

Xpost

Billboard has a 100 songs that defined the decade which features some of the biggest hits of the 2010s and several of these have been snubbed by many eod lists :

https://www.billboard.com/100-songs-that-defined-the-2010s

I mean they were not critically acclaimed but they were definitely successful for a minute. I had to double check if LMFAO was a 2010s thing.

List is missing Duck Sauce - Barbra Streisand.

'Random Access Memories' so thoroughly achieved what it set out to do. It'll still probably make the Musicophilia decade top 50. But I still like the mix I made inspired by it (and by its likely inspirations) better:

https://www.mixcloud.com/musicophilia/the-gold-and-the-silver-dream-1971-1982-a-tribute-to-daft-punks-random-access-memories/

Various Artists – ‘The Gold and the Silver Dream’ (2013)
(After Daft Punk’s ‘Random Access Memories’)

01 [00:00] Amon Duul II – “Spaniards & Spacement” (Only Human, 1978)
02 [05:43] Brian Bennett – “Solstice” (Voyage, 1978)
03 [11:43] Beaver & Krause – “Looking Back Now” (All Good Men, 1972)
04 [15:35] William Sheller – “Inroit” (Lux Aterna, 1972)
05 [18:45] Zeus B. Held – “Nice Mover (Backing)” (Nice Mover (Gina X), 1979)
06 [22:51] The Jacksons – “Wondering Who” (Triumph, 1980)
07 [27:08] Francis Personne – “Fresques” (Towards, 1977)
08 [30:04] Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark – “Romance of the Telescope” (“Joan of Arc”, 1981)
09 [33:20] Vuolo & Grande – “Leaving” (Desert, 1979)
10 [37:27] Roxy Music – “The Space Between” (Avalon, 1982)

11 [41:58] Space Art – “Welcome to Love” (Play Back, 1980)
12 [48:33] Le Orme – “Al Mercato delle Pulci” (Storia o Leggenda, 1977)
13 [52:29] Cerrone – “Give Me Love” (Supernature, 1977)
14 [56:53] Roland Bocquet – “Paradia” (Robot Rose, 1982)
15 [61:38] Nilsson- “The Moonbeam Song (Demo)” (Nilsson Schmilsson, 1971)
16 [65:05] Curt Boettcher – “California Music” (California Music, 1978)
17 [68:16] Gino Soccio – “Closer” (Closer, 1981)
18 [72:03] Munich Machine – “In Love With Love” (Whiter Shade of Pale, 1977)
19 [78:17] Stardrive – “Funkascensions” (Stardrive, 1974)
20 [83:49] Eno & Cluster – “The Shade (Excerpt)” (After the Heat, 1978)

[Total Time: 85:00]

Carseatheadrest was not avoidable 2016/2017, he was being hyped in almost every forum and zine I frequented at the time except for ilxor, thank god. Label was even pushing money for him to appear in every music related youtube vids for a while, top of my mind I remember he was doing npr, kexp, tonight shows and it kept appearing as recommended music vids.

Not denying that car seat guy was much more prominent a couple years ago, but have you thought about the algorithm’s role in pushing it to you, specifically, based on other music you listen to?

Gotye’s Somebody that I used to know was both a hit and received critical praise iirc, featuring in many eoy lists, and I’m not sure if I’ve seen it in any eod list so far.

X I mean excluding this billboard one.