Previously critically acclaimed and/or successful acts who are already being written out of attempts at '10s canon-building

Loved CC second album but yeah that has sunk like a stone in my listening since Glass spoke about that

iirc there was an ilx post that characterized random access memories as daft punk doing in a more obvious way what they had already achieved on discovery, synthesizing the quincy jones productions and jazz fusion and yacht rock records in their collection into dance music. i like ram, but that has felt more and more otm to me as time passes

iirc the goal was to create a record that sounded like all the records they used to sample

Not completely ignored but other acts which were strongly hyped around mid-decade but had some of that early love fade away: Blood Orange and Dev Hynes related projects, Actress, Kurt Vile, Deerhunter, Flying Lotus, James Blake, Bon Iver.

I just love Instant Crush and don't care about contextualising DP's fashionability

Put on Blood Orange recently and it just felt really, really thin. I think some of those names will survive the 10's though. xp

"Harder Faster Better Stronger" was the big one, maybe cuz it was a bit more gimmicky while still being pretty great. I remember sites like YTMND & Ebaums using that tune a lot which in retrospect was not exactly insignificant

2007: I think it was 'Stronger' by Kanye & the accompanying video that really cemented Daft Punk into mainstream consciousness in the US. The massive buzz around the 2007 Alive tour added to that as well.

yeah ariel pink doesn't really belong on any best album lists for this decade, save maybe pom pom, and even that is a stretch. As alluded to above, it's really his albums from the 2000's (doldrums, house arrest, worn copy) that deserve recognition. everything he's done since 2010 has just been well executed AM pastiche, whereas the early stuff was like a pastiche of something that never even existed ... he gets a lot of hate now for the person he has been ousted as and the albums he has put out on major labels, but u gotta have ur head up ur ass not to recognize how groundbreaking and influential his pre 2010 home recordings were

iirc the goal was to create a record that sounded like all the records they used to sample

― 💠 (crüt), Friday, December 6, 2019 10:50 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it was! but the result feels more like a studied recreation than its own thing. also it's approximately 10000000 years long. i agree with nv that "instant crush" is a jam though

i mean every daft punk record is long but i really feel the length of ram

there are probably several posts in the ram thread where i reveal myself as extremely down with studied recreations but i'm not denying the album felt exciting at the time

Is anyone else imagining Matt in a pub telling other UK ILXors "I knew I shouldn't have put Daft Punk in the opening post as I was typing it but I thought maybe people would just take it as the example I meant for it to be"?

yes lol

i *have* been trying to think of other examples

Gnarls Barkley finished #1/#5 in the P&J singles/albums polls

well that's obviously not the '10s so forget it

Great ILM polls from 2010 that never were: who will end the decade richest out of Diplo, Mark Ronson and Calvin Harris?


Flying Lotus maybe fits the thread premise but probably had already peaked before 2010 in terms of acclaim and has always been kinda first among equals in a scene that's not really club-orientated.

It doesn't seem like there are that many obvious examples tho really and too many lists already seem way too obedient and deferential to early-10s critical consensus.

well that's obviously not the '10s so forget it

But "Fuck You" was. Remember when critics went crazy over that song?

lol that won P&J too

Also I find it interesting that for all this talk about Daft Punk and Ariel Pink that Allmusic still upgraded Before Today and Random Access Memories to 5 stars during their end of the decade uprades.

considering how vaunted Let England Shake by PJ Harvey was in 2010, its disappointing to see the relative lack of placement in EOD lists - a shame b/c that album is fantastic & has held up really well (both in general and w/r/t PJH's catalog). I'm guessing this has to do w/ her not really releasing much else since, except for one album in 2016 that was pretty good, but not on the level.

Also, I haven't looked into many end of the decade lists, but I doubt "Blurred Lines" is on many of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88zQ_sf6BMg

do critics still rate R.A.P. Music / Run The Jewels?

Most of the Ariel Pink stuff from this decade is really good. Especially Before Today.

Remember that Dr. Dre album that people lost their shit over for like 2 weeks and then forgot about completely?

vice's best of albums of the 2010s list makes a case for salem's importance to ~the decade~ for what it's worth, i also think they're remembered fondly by a lot of people

sleigh bells

Ariel Pink's work got better in the 2010s anyway

not sure I agree. Worn Copy is the Ariel Pink album I really love.

I thought Benji was interesting for a few listens but don’t want to revisit it now.

Far Side Virtual is something, I think its relentless cheeriness is kind of hard to take but maybe it will be a rediscovered classic a few decades from now

Round and Round is great though

I really liked and related to the amateur quality of Ariel Pink's first recordings. the inspiration was so perfect that It was hard for me to accept him as a star after that

"harder better faster stronger" was not a bigger hit than "one more time" lol. "one more time" was daft punk's first single to get any appreciable airplay at top 40 stations in the states, tho as noted above it didn't go especially far in that respect. getting any airplay at all >>>> being incorporated into a couple cute animations on newgrounds/ebaumsworld/ytmnd

sleigh bells

― kornrulez6969

They were relevant for a minute yes but that was in 2009.

remember when Lil Yachty was going to beckon in a brand new era of youth music?

My answer would be completely biased by what I think should be forgotten, which is really just what I never caught to. Ariel, trap, dubstep are all there. For example I also really hate all abstract / industrial hip hop. I hate stuff like Car seat Headrest. But I'd be reading too much into it if it does not appear in decade-list: it does not mean much anyway. Lol at being surprised at not seing EDM for example, that's a specialized genre that does not appeal across the audience so I wouldn't read any denial into it.
"Significance" is really a pompous term as well.
10 years is a long-time too: something not being fresh anymore doesn't mean it stopped being good...
And imo you're all flipping on RAM: I get lucky and other hits belong to any good 2010s playlist. Kanye's songs also really endure, idk, Fade came on yesterday, what a song !

dr luke

Oh fucking car seat headrest. That is one of those acts which I’m thankful of how they’ve faded into nothingness.

EDM was one of the biggest trends in pop this decade so it's interesting that very little of it caught on critically much at all

also, what other hits on RAM? "Get Lucky" was the only hit from it. it's a decent enough track and it's nice that Daft Punk had a world-conquering hit and all but it was certainly overrated at the time and it's not really one of the best tracks of the decade. RAM as an album doesn't really hold up well at all either. there's some decent enough stuff on it but it's really bloated and a lot of the songwriting is lacking.

'Let England Shake' has been placing very highly in UK lists but I'd argue it resonates particularly strongly right now given the direction Britain is going in.

Terius Nash is mostly a 00s phenomenon but considering songs as undeniable as Yamaha and Schooling Life dropped this decade he's fallen off heavily in almost every way and no one's really talking about him right now. I'm not sure that would have been expected in 2010 but he feels firmly on the wrong side of the generational divide and you don't even encounter him working with A-List artists any more. Punching your pregnant girlfriend will probably do that to a career, mind.

Sleigh Bells is a good answer.

EDM was the sound of the first half of the decade, of course it never got any kind of critical respect, especially among the "former punks who now like rap" demographic which always seems to be very vocal in certain publications. But, if you were into mp3 blogs / hypemachine at the time though, it was a very different picture.

Let England Shake is much too positive about England for my taste, even more so in 2019.

'What is the glorious fruit of our land? The fruit is deformed children' a bit too glowing for you?

Punching your pregnant girlfriend will probably do that to a career, mind.

Argh never even heard about this

Let England Shake is nowheresville in recent US polls, but was #2 Pazz & Jop 2010

xxp was thinking more of "England"

xp

er.. I meant 2011. btw, see also: ' Kaputt' by Destroyer

i've seen kaputt in a bunch of decade lists high enough up

"former punks who now like rap"

add to rap "pop, r&b, and mainstream country for some reason" and this category comprises the majority of people born before the millennium who currently write about popular music

kaputt definitely still has clout

- People who fell firmly on the wrong side of the generational/cultural/political watershed that took place in the middle of the decade.

― Matt DC, Friday, December 6, 2019 12:26 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this is otm but unfair, because it assumes there was some massive poll or election. I am loath to evoke 'rockism' in this discussion but what you are talking about is a lot of collateral damage based on qualities that are not so much explicit as they are (most often wrongfully) perceived. Guy with guitar = OK Boomer. It also reeks of ageism tbh