amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

I really don't think it's controversial to say she's an asshole at this point

SOMEONE isn't doing endless compassion!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hint hint

Since that time, Chez has repeatedly contacted Jordan at Top Shelf to receive payment of her final invoice (of only $5200 - and Amanda is a millionaire who makes over $110,000 a month from her Patreon donations alone)

ukuleles ain't cheap

Another thing about center of attention type narcissists is that people love to please them and shower them with gifts and there’s something to that beyond generosity.

I would like to put Amanda Palmer in a room with Joel Osteen and see what happens

Put those two in a room, and the money will just roll in. Prosperity Rock.

President Trump Announces His Faith and the Arts panel with Osteen, Kanye and AP. First subject: "Why Are We Victims?"

my twitter feed is currently awash in cruel, school-yard-level internet bullying. i saw an anti-semitic comment about my husband that was so vile it made my stomach turn. no. enough.
i will gladly have a civil conversation about media, journalism & patreon with anyone who wants.

— Amanda Palmer Is Touring Europe & the UK (@amandapalmer) November 22, 2019

As much as it sucks that people do this shit, the whole "a bunch of people are criticizing me, in fact somebody sent (vile thing)" move is pretty expected now

She's gonna start charging people to have conversations with her.

Or maybe it'll be opt out: you'll have to pay *not* to hear from her.

remember when she had the epiphany that the future of being a musician online was to groom a cult of personality to whom you could sell literal trash

she wasn't wrong

true

I've just rediscovered that I'd blocked her on Twitter

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18lf76w8cdpm6gif/original.gif

pour one out for all the narcissists who didn't amass global fanbases

wait what abt me

that cites one of her crimes as using the "r-word" in a song .... like 15-20 years ago, when it wasn't the same kind of horrible insensitive dick move it is now ...

Ummmm, yeah it was.

― emil.y, Friday, November 22, 2019 7:38 AM (five hours ago)

Even 11 years ago, as someone pointed out upthread ... it was "edgy" but still socially acceptable. Dunno what kinda historical re-write you are aiming for, or maybe it's a UK vs. US thing, seriously do I need to pull up pages of ilx search results to prove you wrong? Because you are wrong.

god she is giving all of us a bad name
she is the worst!!

It's definitely a US vs UK thing; we had a bunch of on-board fights about it

Aha! well, it's definitely not a battle I want to spend any more time on that's for sure

low stakes in the grand scheme, but 'who wants to fly me across europe so i don't have to get up early' is a+

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ7FeqOXUAI99Yw.jpg:small

The perfect ending to this story would be for one of her lunatic fans to pick her up in some crappy homemade plane and go down in the Channel/North Sea.

Etsy Airlines

Oh god, oh god, the Honduran immigrants story.

(A thing can be socially acceptable and still a horrible insensitive dick move but)

AP is pretty clearly a dickhead whatever, witness a pattern of behaviour that, yes, exists on a continuum from embarrassing and tone-deaf to quite shit to repulsive, but has been pretty consistent for a long time

Having said that I’m in the same boat as most ilxors ito only really knowing her through the lens of this thread and latterly Twitter (ie “look at this fuck”) and was only recently subjected by a friend to a clip of some horrible song of hers - seeing her greatest hits being revived on social media has elicited some very grim chuckles I have to say

hadn't heard that story before:

My crew once pulled our van up to a really poor Miami neighborhood and we found out that our couchsurfing host for the night was an 18-year-old girl, still living at home, and her family were all undocumented immigrants from Honduras. And that night, her whole family took the couches and she slept together with her mom so that we could take their beds. And I lay there thinking, these people have so little. Is this fair? And in the morning, her mom taught us how to try to make tortillas and wanted to give me a Bible, and she took me aside and she said to me in her broken English, “Your music has helped my daughter so much. Thank you for staying here. We’re all so grateful.” And I thought, this is fair. This is this.

A couple months later, I was in Manhattan, and I tweeted for a crash pad, and at midnight, I’m ringing a doorbell on the Lower East Side, and it occurs to me I’ve never actually done this alone. I’ve always been with my band or my crew. Is this what stupid people do? Is this how stupid people die? And before I can change my mind, the door busts open. She’s an artist. He’s a financial blogger for Reuters, and they’re pouring me a glass of red wine and offering me a bath, and I have had thousands of nights like that and like that.

which honduran immigrants story? why am I looking into this trainwreck?

oh there it is

'i have exploited thousands and thousands of people'

On 16 November 2010, Palmer hosted a non-legally binding flash mob wedding for Gaiman's birthday in New Orleans.[128]

Lol that mookieproof one is gold!

Even 11 years ago, as someone pointed out upthread ... it was "edgy" but still socially acceptable. Dunno what kinda historical re-write you are aiming for, or maybe it's a UK vs. US thing, seriously do I need to pull up pages of ilx search results to prove you wrong? Because you are wrong.

― sarahell, Friday, November 22, 2019 4:05 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean, yes and no; it was fairly uncontroversially considered a slur and not just "edgy," but also, even in the most mainstream of mainstream you had stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JL6vKB5qMU

even in the most mainstream of mainstream you had stuff like this

Notably changed to "let's get it started" for radio.

well, yeah, it's radio

woah I had no idea that was the real title

^^^ I didn't know for years myself, not being a buyer of Black Eyed Peas albums. And frankly "Let's Get It Started" is a better title/song - it made its adoption as a Jock Jam not just totally appropriate, but inevitable.

I never knew there was a cleaner title tbh. The r-word version was the one I remember from MuchMusic.

pffft that's not how you get it started

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgOk1p1aHqE

^^^ I didn't know for years myself, not being a buyer of Black Eyed Peas albums. And frankly "Let's Get It Started" is a better title/song - it made its adoption as a Jock Jam not just totally appropriate, but inevitable.

this thread is something

oh my god if you have access to Amanda Palmer's patreon please please please send me screenshots of what's inside this post pic.twitter.com/tAtuWP5hZR

— Jane (@JaneOst_) November 23, 2019

Twitter user Jane is delirious with joy at AP’s shitposts

Sounds like ilxor material

I got to the end of that thread and as stupid as it still is, I'm still just so happy about the eyebrows.

I want to say Black Eyed Peas changed the song midstream, which is to say, after it had already gotten some traction. I saw them right around the time the album came out (they were touring with/opening for N*E*R*D), and I absolutely remember them introducing the song by talking about its original title and explaining why they were changing it. (The Black Eyed Peas show was awesome, btw, not going to lie. So much better than the headliners, who not only iirc sucked, but did so while performing standing on a picnic table.)

So Laura updated her Twitter thread this morning:

It turns out there’s more. From the Tim Ferriss show in April. “I can’t stop thinking about how I want to win her over, and change her mind, and force her to love me, and connect with me, and see the light. It’s almost bordering on a mental obsession.” https://t.co/WOuNhE1Md7 pic.twitter.com/1cFEpex0iP

— Laura Snapes (@laurasnapes) November 23, 2019

Or I should say yesterday morning.

what a weirdo

"almost"
"bordering"