"Eye On You" is a long-lost great Janet single, right?
― keep your penis out that's hilarious (The Reverend), Friday, 19 June 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)
Oh and also that little scary string bit that appears in the chorus of "Drink in My Cup" is awesome, v. 36M.
― keep your penis out that's hilarious (The Reverend), Friday, 19 June 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)
the intro of "drink in my cup" is so badass, especially the sliding ultra fat bass...
― AleXTC, Friday, 19 June 2009 09:39 (sixteen years ago)
the 'so good' video :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
― bare grills (tpp), Friday, 19 June 2009 12:33 (sixteen years ago)
which one?
― some dude, Friday, 19 June 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/NlPwwNNaAdBx5T62
oh god just watched the 'drink in my cup' one too
these girls should be huge
― bare grills (tpp), Friday, 19 June 2009 12:38 (sixteen years ago)
lol
― keep your penis out that's hilarious (The Reverend), Friday, 19 June 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)
"devotion" sounds exactly like "purple kisses"
― Nabisco™ (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 July 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)
which is awesome
― Nabisco™ (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 July 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)
funny, i was just listening to this for the fist time in a while today. the shouty anthem-type songs are growing on me but i still think the sultry stuff is way better.
― Dr. Morbius Banned : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated. (some dude), Saturday, 4 July 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)
I'm starting to think that the "I'm not gonna fuck you because you don't earn as much as I do" tracks on here might just be outright misogynistic while pretending to be the exact opposite.
I actually wouldn't care if there was outright barefaced unashamed misogyny at work here, but after listening to big chunks of Love vs Money again I'm having trouble squaring one with the other.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 July 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)
I know what you mean; it's a male songwriter's idea of independence. I haven't completed warmed to this (or The-Dream's second album) despite enjoying several cuts.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 July 2009 01:08 (sixteen years ago)
If you're not going into any The-Dream project without the understood knowledge that he's kind of sleazy and doesn't necessarily have the most enlightened or progressive ideas about love, sex, gender politics, etc. that's on you. You can smell a strip club just looking at him.
― 51 jump street (some dude), Saturday, 11 July 2009 01:52 (sixteen years ago)
sorry for the double negative, but you get the gist of my point
He's not a misogynist: I'm just more aware of his limitations when he lets chicks sing his fantasies (see also the Apollonia solo album)
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 July 2009 01:56 (sixteen years ago)
yeah. being familiar with the two dream albums makes listening to this album weird, though; it's just so clear where stuff is coming from. they even sound like him vocally at times. i feel like this might not have bothered me at all if he'd stayed solely a songwriter and i would know on some abstract level that a dude wrote all the songs but it wouldn't really mess with my enjoying them. i just got this album, though; i might get over it in a week. hate P is for Power, though, that's the one that seems most explicitly like the obverse some of the grosser sex and money stuff on Love v. Money.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 11 July 2009 02:00 (sixteen years ago)
that was kind of an xpost.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 11 July 2009 02:01 (sixteen years ago)
okay i love "friend lover" though
― horseshoe, Monday, 13 July 2009 02:20 (sixteen years ago)
So driving home Sunday night in Washington DC at 11:30 after seeing loud clanging rock band Future of the Left, I drove past 14th and Park, a trendy upscale club where NBA basketball players and such hang out. There was a huge line of folks down the sidewalk from the place. Oh yeah, Elekrik Red were there tonight. But this is the kind of place where they may have just made an appearance and not actually performed.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 20 July 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)
ER were at a big outdoor festival in Baltimore this weekend too -- was out of town and missed it, but it would've been nice to at least see if they can really perform and do the songs justice live
― walter amirite (rip) (some dude), Monday, 20 July 2009 03:55 (sixteen years ago)
That's right, they were at Artscape. That would have been worth checking out. I wonder if they have made their appearance yet at 14th & Park?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 20 July 2009 03:57 (sixteen years ago)
being familiar with the two dream albums makes listening to this album weird, though; it's just so clear where stuff is coming from. they even sound like him vocally at times.
imo this makes the album alot better, actually. i'm not sure why. oh, it's probably just because i like the-dream so much. by the way dude is becoming prolific, already written and produced two great albums this year.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 28 August 2009 22:25 (sixteen years ago)
not to mention a grab bag of other great songs by other artists, with mariah and milian (iirc?) still on the way
― tay zondven (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 August 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)
i hope even if his/electrik red's solo career never picks up that he will live a long and obscenely rich life off of umbrella royalties.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 28 August 2009 22:35 (sixteen years ago)
He's done well enough as a solo artist.
― horribly jaded internet person who takes nothing too seriously (The Reverend), Friday, 28 August 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)
pretty sure he already is
― lex pretend, Saturday, 29 August 2009 09:21 (sixteen years ago)
oh yeah? i actually wasn't basing that on record sales or some kind of solid fact, but just that my sister-who listens to nothing but this type of music-had only heard of one song and was like "oh he was in that song with mariah carey, right?"
― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 29 August 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)
Was thinking about why I find the line in "Friend Lover", "Rule 4: you can't stay past five, I gotta be at work by nine" so affecting.
I think this bit works a lot like the "I could have another you in a minute/matter fact he'll be here in a minute" line in Beyonce's "Irreplaceable". There's that same sudden jump in register which on the one hand is supposed to suggest an almost callous sense of levity, and yet on the other hand is a classic giveaway that the singer doesn't believe what he or she is saying.
Or, rather, it's not exactly a lie, but the emotion is confected - the rule suggests that Ms Red is ultimately gonna make her love life fit in with her professional life, but maybe secretly Ms Red isn't happy about that, or maybe sometimes wishes she wasn't the kind of person who put work before love. Or maybe she just feels trapped by her own pride in enforcing this arrangement.
Which is supported by the arrogant "he could be my man if I wanted him to" beforehand. Again, the way this is sung suggests that maybe she does want him to be her man, but can't admit this to herself for fear of some private loss of face.
I was trying to think of examples in film and tv where one character is in a relationship with someone and is totally in love with them but for reasons of warped personal pride affects a pose of absolute indifference. Only a couple come to mind though.
― Tim F, Monday, 31 August 2009 05:59 (sixteen years ago)
themes of pride in the context of love seem to be very prevalent on this album and in a lot of music, especially hip hop/RnB. mostly, though, i find that line affecting for the reason that most lyrics about being a working woman are affecting: they put the singer in the place of the audience.
― I love rainbow cookies (surm), Monday, 31 August 2009 11:12 (sixteen years ago)
OMG, I have only just noticed the kind of wibbling space noises in the background of Devotion.
the bloody CRAFTSMANSHIP of this album is just staggering, the little things hidden in the background of the production that you only notice after hearing it 100x.
― Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Monday, 7 September 2009 11:40 (sixteen years ago)
binkie = v good twitter value btw.
@BinkieER a woman is like a tea bag you never know how strong she is until she is in hot water ! fyi a bitch is on boil !26 minutes ago from web
― lex pretend, Saturday, 19 September 2009 06:50 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of which can someone provide me with a breakdown of who does what voices?
I'm assuming that the four voices are:
1) high-voiced breathy girl - e.g. "Devotion", "Friend Lover"2) more sultry Kelis type girl - e.g. "So Good"3) lower, slightly nasal singer - e.g. "We Fuck You" (same singer who does the nasal but higher "... and I don't know why you feel so alarmed..." bit in "P is for Power"? Possibly also "Kill Bill"??)4) rapper in "Muah", presumably also the second spoken word section in "P is for Power"?
Or am I mixing these up and getting it all wrong?
― Tim F, Saturday, 19 September 2009 10:20 (sixteen years ago)
i'd also love to clear that all up, i've got no idea
― k3vin k., Saturday, 19 September 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)
binkie is the one who raps occasionally, no idea about the others but i get the impression that naomi does quite a lot of the lead vox
― lex pretend, Sunday, 20 September 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)
There's two rappers though, right? First verse and second verse of "P is for Power" are different I think? The second verse is probably Binkie then as that's the same singer who does the rap on "Muah".
― Tim F, Sunday, 20 September 2009 14:42 (sixteen years ago)
omg lex that tweet
― surm, Sunday, 20 September 2009 14:46 (sixteen years ago)
A quick rewatch of the clips confirms that "So Good" and "Friend Lover" are both sung by the same girl who turns out to be Naomi. But according to some internet commentary:
binkie has on pointlesley has we fuck youand sarah almost has p is for power. she has teo verses on that song but shares it with naomi
Sounds like everything else bar the rapping (presumably Binkie on "Muah" and "Drink In My Cup") is Naomi but I'm willing to bet "Kill Bill" isn't her.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 September 2009 13:36 (sixteen years ago)
yeah "Kill Bill" vox sound totally different from almost every other song. kinda hate that one, tbh.
― Autogoon Almanac (some dude), Monday, 21 September 2009 13:38 (sixteen years ago)
that's cuz it kinda sucks
― surm, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:12 (sixteen years ago)
haha yeah "radio might not play this record" -- gee hmm i wonder why!
― Autogoon Almanac (some dude), Monday, 21 September 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)
Haha. Worst of the album is definetly Kill Bill.
I'm guesssing still not sign of a UK releease for this? Shame as it seems to my ears to have more of a Brit-friendly sound (like Kelis).
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)
I thought she was saying "radio better not play this record" because that might warn Bill that she's planning to kill him.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:37 (sixteen years ago)
I think Bill probably got over that one after those Tarantino films a few years back, he'll be lulled into a false sense of security by now.
― Matt DC, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)
Kill Bill > Womanizer imo
― unban dictionary (blueski), Monday, 21 September 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)
noooooooooooooooooooooo
― surm, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:55 (sixteen years ago)
"kill bill" def >>>> "womanizer"
for the shitty schaffel pop track, it's surprisingly good - def inessential in context of the album though
― lex pretend, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:57 (sixteen years ago)
kill bill is too loud and cluttered, it's like a migraine. womanizer is perfect :)
― surm, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:59 (sixteen years ago)
It's totally essential, it's the big brassy blow-out at the end. Ending with 'Go Shawty' wouldn't be much cop.
That whole electro-schaffel-pop signature has got so tired to me that Electrik Red turning it up *really loud* and adding some righteous anger kind of invigorated it for me. When Britney released Womanizer my response was more "oh, another one".
― Matt DC, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:59 (sixteen years ago)
I dunno, if you're threatening to kill someone it's probably good to do it really loudly. Either that or with whispering menace.
― Matt DC, Monday, 21 September 2009 15:00 (sixteen years ago)
When Britney released Womanizer my response was more "oh, another one".
― Matt DC, Monday, September 21, 2009 10:59 AM (2 minutes ago)
if electrik red "realeased" kill bill what would your reaction be?
― the nader of civilization (k3vin k.), Monday, 21 September 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)