Artists/bands that were once quite popular, yet nowadays are mostly ignored in canonical history books

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(xp) People never thought Erasure were an inferior imitation of the Pet Shop Boys because they're nothing like the Pet Shop Boys - and let's not forget Vince Clarke is one of the main inventors of the whole synth pop genre. Also the Housemartins are a footnote to the Beautiful South not the other way round. The Housemartins are far more ignored than the Beautiful South, this in spite of having a drummer who turned out to be an axe-wielding homicidal maniac.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

I learn from the internet that Beautiful South's Blue is the Colour and Quench both came out after Carry on Up the Charts, and Erasure's I Say, I Say, I Etc came out after Pop: The First 20 Hits, so my recollection isn't quite 100%,

The Beautiful South became much more successful on the charts, in raw sales, and as a touring act after Carry On Up The Charts. It having sold a copy to vastly more people than had ever bought any Heaton record before, a notable proportion of those now considered themselves part of the band's audience, rather than just recognising a song or two on the adverts.

but the (band) went fairly abruptly from being major chart acts to has-beens.

They went from top twenty to #1 and #2 placings. Their fortunes started to decline seven years later; their first single had only come out five years before Carry On.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link

in spite of having a drummer who turned out to be an axe-wielding homicidal maniac.

His later activity certainly adds a delightful frisson to the early videos after he left the band, in which he repeatedly stalks and attempts to kidnap his replacement.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

"Blue Is The Colour" and "Quench" were the Beautiful South's biggest selling albums!

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link

How's Billy Idol's stock these days?

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

The Lemonheads went from being talk of the town to whisper of the village

PaulTMA, Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

xp His 2014 album was well-received, and earned him his highest-ever Billboard 200 debut (#34). He also actively tours.

dracula et son fils (morrisp), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link

Evan Dando showed up in a Rick James story on Disgraceland where they were both stuck in a studio during the LARiots and went up on the roof to fire machine guns into the air

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

Disgraceland is in Liverpool though

Rick James Style is on Come On Feel The Lemonheads, right at the peak of their talk of the town days

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link

Chicago’s “I’m A Man” is fucking awesome

brimstead, Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link

Billy Idol is well-liked among women over 35 ime.

No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link

The Lemonheads were never that big of a mainstream phenomenon (although there was a lot of talk): they had two albums that went gold after a few years and no real chart activity outside the modern rock chart. Idk what kind of historical record one would expect. They probably get mentioned in histories of alt/indie rock of the time? (I still like "Into Your Arms" fwiw!)

No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link

XP Also, when the weather gets cooler, Facebook is flooded w/a meme baring his image.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link

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How the fuck do Brits waste their time?!

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 31 October 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link

The Lemonheads also had a freakishly high number of covers among their best known tracks. At the risk of getting all Geir-ish, that might not be the best way of cementing a Serious Rock Music Legacy.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 31 October 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

I think that was part of the Fat Boys' problem too.

No language just sound (Sund4r), Thursday, 31 October 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link

The Lemonheads also had a freakishly high number of covers among their best known tracks. At the risk of getting all Geir-ish, that might not be the best way of cementing a Serious Rock Music Legacy.

hey that's not fai--

(I still like "Into Your Arms" fwiw!)

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Thursday, 31 October 2019 04:24 (four years ago) link

re Wet Wet Wet/Love Is All Around:

it’s one of the last things non fans remember from them and yet it was no 1 in the UK for weeks

??? it's the first thing I remember, it's what I think of when I see the name, and off the top of my head I can't remember anything else by them (I'd probably remember other songs if I saw the titles)

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 07:21 (four years ago) link

Yeah, the same, I don't think I've ever heard anything else by them besides "Love Is All Around".

Tuomas, Thursday, 31 October 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link

"Angel Eyes" of course !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

You lucky people

Cornelius Fondue (Matt #2), Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

xp after I posted that I did actually think they had a song called Angel Eyes, but I can't remember how it goes

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:02 (four years ago) link

Wishing I Was Lucky u savages.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link

^ still like that one tbh

the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

sweet little mystery was their other big tune, that was bloody awful though

the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link

They had another #1 in the 90s with 'Goodnight Girl' which was about as bad as LIAA.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link

xp sorry wasn’t clear, I meant “last” in the sense that LIAA came towards the end of their run of hits; obviously it’s one of first things anyone asked will remember from them

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

There was a whole run of these "soul music for white suburban Brits" bands - WWW, Simply Red, Lighthouse Family (yes I know they weren't all white but their audience was). Level 42 before that I suppose, and maybe Hot Chocolate in the 70s? All huge in their day.

Cornelius Fondue (Matt #2), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link

the other big www song in the uk was 'with a little help from my friends', that charity single they did (originally for the nme sgt pepper lp)

koogs, Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link

I think it was the and yet it was no 1 in the UK for weeks that threw me off, thought it implied that people ought to remember that one in particular yet didn't

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

Hot Chocolate were good though

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link

There was a whole run of these "soul music for white suburban Brits" bands - WWW, Simply Red, Lighthouse Family (yes I know they weren't all white but their audience was). Level 42 before that I suppose, and maybe Hot Chocolate in the 70s? All huge in their day.

At one time every second band in Glasgow was trying to do this - all with songs with sugar or candy in the title.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

... or honey. Basically like JAMC but trying to be Al Green and not the Velvets.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link

Is there a thread for "acts who arrived with a couple of pretty good singles, then pumped out utter shit for the remainder of their careers"?

wet wet wet, ub40, cast, maybe status quo?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

cast [citation needed]

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link

That Quo talk is fightin' talk

Cornelius Fondue (Matt #2), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

first cast single was good, everything after was very not good.

knew I would be in trouble with the quo

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

At one time every second band in Glasgow was trying to do this

Somewhat amusingly Wet Wet Wet proved be better at it than the West End hipster crowd, despite being a bunch of Rangers' fans from Clydebank.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link

The Quo rule from Matchstick to Mystery Song. That's a lot of singles.

Mark G, Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link

That Quo talk is fightin' talk

Bordering on FP territory.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

shit I'm in trouble now

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 31 October 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

eheh regarding the "soul music for white suburban Brits", the video for "Sweet Little Mystery" is quite wtf : they go to an African country to spread the groove to the locals !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link

Hey, the Clydebank Groove might not be that well known in Africa.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgEqJUcUKNw

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

and the lucky country is Gambia !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:15 (four years ago) link

It's like the Beatles arriving in the US.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

I have actually just watched the whole thing and... oh my...

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link

worst scottish export since mcewans

the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

I'm quite partial to McEwan's Champion Ale although the 7.3% ABV might have something to do with that

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link

Wet Wet Wet were an absolute shocker of a band. And, as has been noted, were Rangers fans into the bargain.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 31 October 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link


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