pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

if it makes you feel better we could jeer at you a bit

I don't even know if the artist was actually upset

she certainly invited her fans to pile on

she didn't

sure

k

if she invited her fans to pile on they did a shitty job of that, that's not why I feel awful, I feel awful about its existence, that I could have prevented, had I done something differently

(by "a shitty job" I mean they didn't; I only found out about it late in the afternoon)

just a typo, right?

These things happen, k, especially to overworked writers

more of a mix-up, I assume, to be clear where I am at fault is not in introducing the error but failing to see it before it was too late

You’re not at fault at all, I understand how you feel with it being under your byline, but I see the editor took responsibility / apologized, seems like it’s all good

who was mad?

actually, I take that back, I don't think the artist tweeted about it at all (or else deleted it), people had just atted them in

wait, no, she did

it is irksome to be misnamed in print, but on the other hand it's a small understandable mistake of the sort that happens all the time and it was fixed immediately, so only an egomaniacal monster would care more than a minute. there aren't any egomaniacal monsters out there on music industry twitter are there??!?

K-Rock flipped formats in 2005. Not a coincidence.

Was struck by the contrast btw this observation in today’s Go-Gos review:

As the Los Angeles punk scene emerged in the late 1970s, it was inclusive, diverse, and pioneered by marginalized voices.

The song is a reminder, in a culture that rhapsodizes the early days of punk, exactly how limited its considerations of the most marginalized people were, how narrow its stage once was and how vast it is becoming.

good catch

I'm glad Pitchfork is doing the work to correct the mistakes they made ... in February.

Just gonna go ahead and guess that this clipping review will be a source of anger in RYM circles

Well then in this case I’ve got common cause with them
Not to throw my hat into the ring with every /mu/ pseud who rewards the stuff they like with an “intelligent” modifier but “this music sounds like too much thought went into it” is a criticism that’s basically never going to find traction with me, and you can throw an extra layer of suspicion on top of that whenever the next rhetorical move is to say that the resultant work feels “sterile”, esp. in genres like rap where “non-sterile” tends to = “my imagined ex nihilo version of this style which required no craft to produce beyond the transcription of Real Experience And Emotion”, which is exactly what that last paragraph seems to be doing

Also I’m all for “cosplay” becoming common parlance in music criticism for fully and meticulously adopting an established style that one did not previously inhabit but *Matrix voice* “not like this”

haha, the Clipping album is really good!

fuck Pitchfork
fuck Pitchfork
fuck Pitchfork
fuck Pitchfork
fuck Pitchfork
fuck Pitchfork
fuck Pitchfork

also, great posts champiness

It's like...these motherfuckers think they run the authenticity game, and wow betide anyone who doesn't stay in their lane. We had this with Dälek before - this guy making some of the most brilliant and interesting hip-hop, and sure they liked his stuff for a moment back then, but they've dropped him like a stone, subtext being: this moment is too *important* for your shenanigans, small-timer

'wow betide'...lol

At this point RYM >>>>>>>>> Pitchfork anyway.

Then again, rewarding aesthetically normative acts with an almost imperceptible twist has been Pitchfork's m. o. since, well, forever.

I agree that the record is good tbc

At this point RYM >>>>>>>>> Pitchfork anyway.

― pomenitul, Monday, October 21, 2019 1:26 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol excuse me

In terms of eclecticism and sheer scope and as a tool for discovering new music, yes. Certainly not in terms of writing, if that’s what’s rankling you.

1) i don’t really think they’re comparable bc one’s a publication and the other is a message board contorted around a database of records 2) rym users are just as corny and inflexible and arbitrary in their judgments of records they just trend more “avant”/“prog” but only a really specific strain of it so they’re caught in their own feedback loop 3) rym overall 1000 percent more concerned about the opinions of anthony fantano than music

pitchfork tbf more concerned with curating their position as #1 trendhopper and purveyor of trusted musical opinion than music

but rym does have its problems yes, which i am working to eradicate

Beyond the obvious noise I can easily navigate my way around RYM in such a way as to stumble across intriguing bands that I likely wouldn’t have discovered otherwise, whereas Pitchfork’s selections are only rarely in line with my own musical interests these days. I’m comparing them with regard to their ability to draw attention to music I might care about, otherwise I agree that it’s apples and oranges.

I visit RYM fairly often, but the only place I encounter the name Anthony Fantano is on ILM.

Pitchfork and ILM have a real Poncho and Lefty relationship

where they got the bread ain't nobody know

hey did you hear a new kanye is coming out this week? a new frank ocean is out now? we like frank ocean there are 2 new frank ocean songs coming. here is a new kanye song. did you know a new frank ocean album is announced? frank ocean kanye west west kanye ocean west frankanye weseon

That's not totally fair. You didn't mention whether Frank Ocean was an answer on Jeopardy.

Did any indie bands cover Frank Ocean songs in concert this weekend?

hey did you hear a new kanye is coming out this week? a new frank ocean is out now? we like frank ocean there are 2 new frank ocean songs coming. here is a new kanye song. did you know a new frank ocean album is announced? frank ocean kanye west west kanye ocean west frankanye weseon

― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, October 21, 2019 9:00 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they know their readers

kanye
kendrick
frank
kendrick
frank
kanye

Is that readers poll just market research for them?

Speaking as a former magazine editor, yes. All readers' polls are market research.

2019 Pitchfork just constantly dunking on the RYM/Fantano/mu/imago axis of angry boy music (Clipping, Tool, Tropical Fuck Storm, docking Run the Jewels/Swans/Kozelek) might be a fantastic act of passive-aggression

Incelcore

all this time, poptimism was a cover for optimism

Incelcore

I had no idea my wife was an incel.