Hard to Urn
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
i reviewed that dog too
― maura, Friday, 18 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, October 18, 2019 12:58 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
omg
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
he's a rapper like Puffy or Dr. Dre, also I'm assuming a big change in the perception is changes in who is ghostwriting for him
He's much better than those 2. I'm basing this solely on his freestyle in that Ice T doc film.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
lol @ Hard To Urn
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
surprised to not see something here about me being dumb (when reviewing my edit, I reviewed the final version from the google doc and not the CMS, because I was on mobile and have the app; the version in the google doc was fine, but the CMS version introduced a very obvious error that upset the artist, and that I feel awful about)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 18 October 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
if it makes you feel better we could jeer at you a bit
― j., Friday, 18 October 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link
I don't even know if the artist was actually upset
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 October 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
she certainly invited her fans to pile on
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 18 October 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
she didn't
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 October 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
sure
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
k
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 October 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
if she invited her fans to pile on they did a shitty job of that, that's not why I feel awful, I feel awful about its existence, that I could have prevented, had I done something differently
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
(by "a shitty job" I mean they didn't; I only found out about it late in the afternoon)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
just a typo, right?
― Evan, Friday, 18 October 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
These things happen, k, especially to overworked writers
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 October 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
more of a mix-up, I assume, to be clear where I am at fault is not in introducing the error but failing to see it before it was too late
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
You’re not at fault at all, I understand how you feel with it being under your byline, but I see the editor took responsibility / apologized, seems like it’s all good
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
who was mad?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
actually, I take that back, I don't think the artist tweeted about it at all (or else deleted it), people had just atted them in
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
wait, no, she did
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link
it is irksome to be misnamed in print, but on the other hand it's a small understandable mistake of the sort that happens all the time and it was fixed immediately, so only an egomaniacal monster would care more than a minute. there aren't any egomaniacal monsters out there on music industry twitter are there??!?
― j., Friday, 18 October 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
K-Rock flipped formats in 2005. Not a coincidence.
― billstevejim, Friday, 18 October 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
Was struck by the contrast btw this observation in today’s Go-Gos review:
As the Los Angeles punk scene emerged in the late 1970s, it was inclusive, diverse, and pioneered by marginalized voices.
The song is a reminder, in a culture that rhapsodizes the early days of punk, exactly how limited its considerations of the most marginalized people were, how narrow its stage once was and how vast it is becoming.
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
good catch
― flopson, Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
I'm glad Pitchfork is doing the work to correct the mistakes they made ... in February.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
Just gonna go ahead and guess that this clipping review will be a source of anger in RYM circles
― Simon H., Monday, 21 October 2019 05:20 (four years ago) link
Well then in this case I’ve got common cause with themNot to throw my hat into the ring with every /mu/ pseud who rewards the stuff they like with an “intelligent” modifier but “this music sounds like too much thought went into it” is a criticism that’s basically never going to find traction with me, and you can throw an extra layer of suspicion on top of that whenever the next rhetorical move is to say that the resultant work feels “sterile”, esp. in genres like rap where “non-sterile” tends to = “my imagined ex nihilo version of this style which required no craft to produce beyond the transcription of Real Experience And Emotion”, which is exactly what that last paragraph seems to be doing
― what else are you all “over” (Champiness), Monday, 21 October 2019 06:30 (four years ago) link
Also I’m all for “cosplay” becoming common parlance in music criticism for fully and meticulously adopting an established style that one did not previously inhabit but *Matrix voice* “not like this”
― what else are you all “over” (Champiness), Monday, 21 October 2019 06:38 (four years ago) link
haha, the Clipping album is really good!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 21 October 2019 06:53 (four years ago) link
fuck Pitchfork fuck Pitchforkfuck Pitchforkfuck Pitchforkfuck Pitchforkfuck Pitchforkfuck Pitchfork
― imago, Monday, 21 October 2019 07:26 (four years ago) link
also, great posts champiness
― imago, Monday, 21 October 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link
It's like...these motherfuckers think they run the authenticity game, and wow betide anyone who doesn't stay in their lane. We had this with Dälek before - this guy making some of the most brilliant and interesting hip-hop, and sure they liked his stuff for a moment back then, but they've dropped him like a stone, subtext being: this moment is too *important* for your shenanigans, small-timer
― imago, Monday, 21 October 2019 08:20 (four years ago) link
'wow betide'...lol
― imago, Monday, 21 October 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link
At this point RYM >>>>>>>>> Pitchfork anyway.
― pomenitul, Monday, 21 October 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link
Then again, rewarding aesthetically normative acts with an almost imperceptible twist has been Pitchfork's m. o. since, well, forever.
― pomenitul, Monday, 21 October 2019 08:28 (four years ago) link
I agree that the record is good tbc
― Simon H., Monday, 21 October 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link
― pomenitul, Monday, October 21, 2019 1:26 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol excuse me
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 21 October 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link
In terms of eclecticism and sheer scope and as a tool for discovering new music, yes. Certainly not in terms of writing, if that’s what’s rankling you.
― pomenitul, Monday, 21 October 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
1) i don’t really think they’re comparable bc one’s a publication and the other is a message board contorted around a database of records 2) rym users are just as corny and inflexible and arbitrary in their judgments of records they just trend more “avant”/“prog” but only a really specific strain of it so they’re caught in their own feedback loop 3) rym overall 1000 percent more concerned about the opinions of anthony fantano than music
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 21 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
pitchfork tbf more concerned with curating their position as #1 trendhopper and purveyor of trusted musical opinion than music
but rym does have its problems yes, which i am working to eradicate
― imago, Monday, 21 October 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link
Beyond the obvious noise I can easily navigate my way around RYM in such a way as to stumble across intriguing bands that I likely wouldn’t have discovered otherwise, whereas Pitchfork’s selections are only rarely in line with my own musical interests these days. I’m comparing them with regard to their ability to draw attention to music I might care about, otherwise I agree that it’s apples and oranges.
― pomenitul, Monday, 21 October 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link
I visit RYM fairly often, but the only place I encounter the name Anthony Fantano is on ILM.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 21 October 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
Pitchfork and ILM have a real Poncho and Lefty relationship
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
where they got the bread ain't nobody know
― maffew12, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
hey did you hear a new kanye is coming out this week? a new frank ocean is out now? we like frank ocean there are 2 new frank ocean songs coming. here is a new kanye song. did you know a new frank ocean album is announced? frank ocean kanye west west kanye ocean west frankanye weseon
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
That's not totally fair. You didn't mention whether Frank Ocean was an answer on Jeopardy.
― enochroot, Monday, 21 October 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
Did any indie bands cover Frank Ocean songs in concert this weekend?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, October 21, 2019 9:00 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
they know their readers
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
kanyekendrick frankkendrickfrankkanye
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link