shd i try to review attack attack??
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
YES
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
might be too much like an internet meme review ...
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
was at to post:
i think all the attack attack baiting is trying to force a meme. It's just boring metalcore with a dumb dance bridge
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
guys i've been thinking abt it and can't find the silver lining on attack attack. it's too emo to be campy, even the trance breakdown.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link
whiney it felt worse than that, what can i say
no i genuinely like watching attack attack. its a pretty weird frankenstein monster of a song. if i actually reviewed metal & went thru a 'popism' phase instead of reviewing rap having gone thru a 'popism' phase i might go for it
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
feel much more adept @ reviewing crazytown
its a pretty weird frankenstein monster of a song
in all seriousness i admire your positive spin on "these guys are so lazy and awful they can't be bothered/don't know how to write a fucking transition between two parts."
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link
no reason they should have to per se
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I am feeling Attack Attack's adderalle'd 'fuck a transition' spin...
― bear, bear, bear, Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
'adderall'
― bear, bear, bear, Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
mc chris is worth than asher
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
woulda thoughtby now you guys woulda maybe downgraded from asher alert code red to at least code orange after his first week numbers came in and his 2nd single flopped -- i mean i think we can chill now and dedicate our energies to hating on other 'xxl freshmen' that still have career prospects
― mo money mo collier (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i have my scope on ace hood
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i like ace hood
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought AH had promise when that first single dropped but album was real boring and he'd just, like, bite a jeezy flow really transparently for an entire song, and his new singles are crap. better than most bloggo thundercat rappers still, but that ain't sayin much.
― mo money mo collier (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i genuinely like drake as a guy whose not great at singing or rapping but has a good enough pop mind to make songs that can occasionally be great - his shit is pretty sonically interesting too and his lloyd/my mans trey collabos are much better than his wayne and jeezy ones
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
drake seems OK -- it's funny how he seems to have real diehard stans moreso than any other of these new rappers who really think he's the god mc and act like he must've ghostwritten every good wayne verse
― mo money mo collier (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it really is weird because "best i ever had" definitely strikes me as a song that your average dude would warm up to because his chick digs it. his rapping is so mediocre too which makes it even more puzzling. loving drake just became this thing out of nowhere from actual rappers, to biz people to blog people on down just out of nowhere, but i guess i'm happy there's one of those dudes that doesn't make me lurch constantly
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link
it came out of nowhere, and like i said, it really came out of nowhere
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh i don't trust any opinions/endorsements from 'actual rappers' -- usually the only sincere things they say about other rappers are deluded 'i'm better than method man' type shit
― mo money mo collier (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
you say that all the time and i think you're completely otm but i think with drake it seemed a bit more genuine but maybs im being swindled
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
was about to refer to nah right as drakestan central but this is pretty funny:
American Mob Says: June 18th, 2009 at 12:04 amNot to judge drake to heavily… but in “best i ever had”
Know you got a roommateCall me when its no one therePut the key under the matAnd you know I’ll be over there(Yup) I’ll be over thereShawty, I’ll be over thereI’ll be hitting all the spots that u ain’t even know was there
really? you couldn’t think of a word that rhymes with “THERE?”
― mo money mo collier (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link
he has a dope line in that song - "double cup love, you're the one i lean on"
almost makes up for "lesbiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanest"
And you know I’ll be over there(Yup) I’ll be over thereShawty, I’ll be over there
i mean, tbf, that's not there for rhyming purposes, and i like it because it slyly changes the meaning of 'there' from 'your house' to 'your pussy.'
― it must be the weed (Tape Store), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
fucking dying over here
― from 'your house' to 'your pussy.' (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
theres a new drakestan central
― margot channing tierkreis (Lamp), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I still haven't figured out in what way "Best I Ever Had" is better than your average Bow Wow single.
― michel gonorrhea (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link
it definitely aint!
― from 'your house' to 'your pussy.' (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link
it's pretty slight but the combined twenty seconds where the dude actually sings is really nice. i really don't like this trend of artists sounding so BORED performing their songs (cf "day n nite", though i guess that's an r&b song)
― dat nigga kelmar (k3vin k.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think Cudi sounds bored on "Day N Nite", more sad but not in a Kanye "Look how DEPRESSED I am!" way. Drake definitely sounds bored on "Best I Ever Had" though. He raps half the song in the same monotone that local backpackers who think they can get away with conveying 100% of a song's meaning with the lyrics and none with the delivery use.
― michel gonorrhea (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 June 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link
im just repeating my jukebox blurb i guess but i think the chorus in "best i ever had" has like 3 different great melodies which is 3x the amount of great rap lines
― swag serf (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13268-totems-flare/
..Think about the basic properties of beat-oriented electronic music. It emphasizes dynamic action, feelings of speed, impressions of light-- extremes and intricacies of sensation. It tweaks your senses with creative deformations of time and space, with strictly engineered frameworks lurking beneath sleek or gaudy facades..
...We enter an unspoken contract with the funhouse: To be tripped, mocked, and have our skirts looked up in a spirit of good-natured mischief. It's the same with Clark, and at his best, he honors it. His greatest record, 2006's exquisitely convulsed Body Riddle, was full of spaces as deeply habitable as they were impossible. It was an alchemist's album-- violent where it naturally should have been tranquil (and vice-versa); corporeal where it should have been cerebral (ditto). The acid squelches of "Herzog" were weirdly serene and grounding, their ambient atmosphere charged with live-wire menace. It was, unquestionably, his most humane album...
...Put it this way: You would probably decline to ride a roller coaster designed by the Clark of this album, not trusting that its promise of danger wouldn't be taken to its logical conclusion, the car separating from the tracks....
― jermainetwo, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I hate to do this but you might have to expand a little on what you're pointing out there, because that kind of thinking is actually one reason I like Howe a lot!
― nabisco, Monday, 20 July 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
met him yesterday
― mustafa moe money (deej), Monday, 20 July 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
It's just filled with awkward quasi-metaphors and barely-parsable similes. What does it mean to say that one of the "basic properties" of electronic music is an emphasis on "impressions of light"? Is that something to do with rave lasers?
And "spaces as deeply habitable as they were impossible"? Ok, so we're in a funhouse run by an unquestionably humane alchemist who imbues things with qualities that you would expect of their opposite (and.. uh.. vice versa)? It just feels like sloppily collected mess of ideas, some of them convincing, some not. And bits like the rollercoaster thing are unconvincing in their verbosity - an unstable rollercoaster can be invoked without talk of "logical conclusions".
― jermainetwo, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
He really doesn't seem to make any type of music, which means that there's no background proposition or guideline, and metaphor might be the only way to talk about it.
Or you could try and describe the music. Nah, stick with the lame metaphor.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
he describes it in the full article
― elan, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
yah i ready it, it's still horrific
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
thank you, pitchfork, for totally missing that our brother the native are on their THIRD album, not their SECOND
― ILL WITH THE COMPOSITION (Beatrix Kiddo), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 10:02 (fourteen years ago) link
how could they have possibly missed an album by famous band our brother the native?
― WWUDifyrsonws@hmcrynallaloneonthebdrmflrcuzhesHongro (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
they work pretty fast though, those Native guys, one blink and you miss another 70 minutes of improv freakfolk. btw unfair rating (can't argue of course) but this third one is their best.
― Ludo, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
still far from brilliant though.
― Ludo, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link
In other news... the tumultuous Pfork love/hate affair with the Fiery Furnaces continues today. Looks like they're getting along this time.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link
After reading that review, I have the impression that Howe wanted to compare this album to a funhouse and electronic music as a whole to a state fair midway but couldn't really be bothered to do so in a coherent, convincing way. Really seems more like a failure in editing than a fundamentally poor idea, and at least he does go into what's happening with the music as he tortures all of those similes and metaphors.
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
weird, I'm completely missing this torture; seems sensible and coherent to me, and I quite like the roller-coaster
(but I guess if many people find it incoherent there's some small failure of communication happening)
― nabisco, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i wouldn't call it small
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link