That had to be intentional, for whatever reason.The funniest thing about this Gambino story is that he's referring to the hit from his last album and his new hit single. He would have been better off saying, hey I just need to workshop this newer stuff for an hour first
― maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link
More evidence that dude should’ve just stayed a comedian
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 October 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link
Someone should have yelled, "Where's Abed?"
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
I think AC/DC is the only band I have ever seen successfully open a set with its biggest hit.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link
Moneytalks?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link
dirty deeds!
― maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
i saw phoenix in the wolfgang amadeus era and they opened with lisztomania. not quite the same, cause they did close with 1901
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 October 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
same as Phoenix (but even moreso), last time I saw Beck he opened with Loser.
it was fuckin' awesome, too.
― alpine static, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link
this made me laugh:
If you didn't make the Pitchfork Top 200 Albums, congratulations! You're in a cool band.— ᴘᴀᴛʀɪᴋ sᴀɴᴅʙᴇʀɢ (@PatrikSandberg) October 9, 2019
― alpine static, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
congrats to 3 doors down
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
if you came to hear Kryptonite, go fly a kite
― maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
zchyrs you’re describing my long-standing complaint with, specifically, the decimal system— it seemed fun and arbitrary ca. 2003, and then became A Serious Barometer With Actual Career Implications in 2004 and it seemed.. destructive.
The industry 2005-2012 was so set by Pitchfork’s clock that I once stated to an editor there that I believed that a system was being created where musicians would make creative decisions with the specific intent of appealing to “the Pitchfork aesthetic”— the editor was horrified at the implication, but I saw that shit first hand. It was happening consciously and subconsciously.
Publicists would meet musicians and ask what their numbers were before agreeing to take them on as clients. It was weird! 2003 was better: I liked when they’d hand out 9s to like... Sunburned Hand Of The Man and we hipsters would turn up to that band’s trash show like “wow there is a dog in the band”. Comparably I remember literally nothing remarkable about the show I saw by The 1975 except snatches of not great bob lyrics
The ideal format for music reviews afaic and I apologize if they pay badly and I know the shitty politics are shitty but it was honestly actually Vice. Best of the month, worst of the month, best cover, worst cover, pass/fail, arbitrary evaluations, petty pettiness. I seem to remember them panning Halford’s solo album just because he was gay. The criticism cut right to the heart of how we actually consume music and (when I cared) opened my ears to lots of meaningful and amazing albums (I would’ve never heard Kid 606 “The Action Packed...” unless Vice pushed it so hard, and they were right to do so, it’s a fucked up album; Pitchfork gave it a 7.0)
― i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
a dog!!! someone should revive that, it would play really well nowadays in peoria (i.e. on twitter)
― j., Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link
I saw Sunburned Hand once (they opened for Sunn O))) at Tonic). I don't remember a dog. I do remember being unsure when exactly they stopped tuning up and started the actual "set."
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link
Is there anything on these lists that's not on a streaming service? The MBV omission looks dodgy to me. Seeing a few p4k writers posting their lists on Twitter and it is showing up on some of those, so the idea that it's been forgotten because it's not on Spotify doesn't hold much water.
― Position Position, Friday, 11 October 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
Sunburned Hand is playing at the venue near my house in like 5 minutes and I kinda want to go now.
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 October 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link
Well, seventeen years ago? They ruled
― i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 11 October 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link
Comparably I remember literally nothing remarkable about the show I saw by The 1975 except snatches of not great bob lyrics
seems weird to me to suggest 1975 are exemplars of pitchfork writer taste ...? it crossing to that audience last year was 1. belated & 2. kind of representative of an insurgent pfork tastemaking choice rather than the kind of depoliticized inertia i feel like you're describing
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
I think all music reviews should follow the BeerAdvocate.com format:look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link
honestly there used to be some underground zines that would break down music / lyrics / production for ratings, can't remember which ones, but it'd be cool to see something more like that imo instead of the Michelin system that governs now
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link
Kool Moe Dee's Report Card should be the minimum standard for all points-based artistic reviewing
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link
xp i feel sceptical of the idea as a lot of video game journalism used to have a similar format which only seemed to encourage the reviewers worst tendencies. the criticism was generally so bad anyway that the problems that the format created mightn't apply more widely though idk
― ufo, Friday, 11 October 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link
I don't believe there's any incorrect methodology for "best of the year/decade/whatever" as long as you think it looks dope after it's finished, or if it feels like it fits really well for the audience you're trying to reach.
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 October 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link
untrue. the correct methodology is to pick the best things, and put them in the order that corresponds to how good they are.
― Hakim Bae's TMZ (s.clover), Friday, 11 October 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link
yea, no shit.
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 October 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
"the best things and their order" will be what's implied after it's done. good job on pointing that out.
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 October 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link
― Position Position, 11. oktober 2019 02:13 (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
There's a couple that is only on Bandcamp or Soundlcloud, so it's not as if they only put Apple Music releases on there. But yeah, it's really, really weird.
― Frederik B, Friday, 11 October 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link
I like the old Dusted zine format--writeups addressing the strengths and weaknesses with no metrics involved whatsoever.
― icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Friday, 11 October 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
This utterly daft paragraph, from the Lindstrom review, is peak Pfork.
"Which can’t be said of the third track, titled by a lousy joke that feels, well, profane. How about we not appropriate the sacrament of an African American spiritual promising biblical deliverance from slavery in the service of a hardware pun? How about we not “Swing Low, Sweet LFO,” with its plinky Pianet and sugary Prophet 6 sweeps, less offensive than Moby’s appropriation of spirituals for car commercials but also, unfortunately, very much not as memorable?"
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Friday, 11 October 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
oh man just wait til he finds out about England's rugby fans
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link
Forgive the wicked Norwegian, for he knows not what he does.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
Ha ha, indeed.
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Friday, 11 October 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
(to both posts)
2019 Pfork would give Thom Yorke shit for the lyrics to 'Pyramid Song'.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
If Yorke gave an interview today like the one he gave Melody Maker in 1995 ("I've never met a single beautiful woman I've ever liked, it's all about unearned privilege"), Pitchfork would not so much explode as dissolve into a shimmering dark mass of anti-matter.
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Friday, 11 October 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link
I was not aware of that quote. CANCELLED.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link
https://citizeninsane.eu/media/uk/mm/02/img/m1995-03-11MM-3.jpg
Thom Yorke has always been a dickhead. (I accept this is a bit off topic)
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Friday, 11 October 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
I wonder what folk these days would make of the Jerky Boys sketch they named their debut album after. I doubt those guys would pass the wokeness test.
― piscesx, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
Vice published a piece about this a few years ago:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/6e44q4/the-jerky-boys-could-never-exist-today
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
".. they do have a track called “Terrorist Pizza.” And the whole call is Ahmed going, “Shut the fuck up! I’m going to fucking kill you!” That’s the whole call, threatening to bomb the pizza place. Jesus Christ. Yes, we’re living in a post-9/11 America, but in hindsight, it still seems pretty fucked up (and also lazy) to call someone and threaten to kill them. People are getting investigated in the UK now for just tweeting about cops. Imagine if you called someone and said you were going to kill them and their family with a bomb. You’d be in federal prison or shipped directly off to Guantanamo Bay. If they came along today, the Jerky Boys’ career would be about three days long."
Thanks yeah.. great piece. Now i also know what grape phylloxera was/is.
― piscesx, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link
counterpoint: new crank yankers episodes are airing now
― maura, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
See also: Logan Paul, et al.
― pomenitul, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
yep, they had an agenda with this list the entire time.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
oh no an agenda
― mark s, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
not sure how essay confirms the list agenda
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
the agenda was to piss austin off, and they succeeded wildly
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
and I'd rather have Jason King write it than anyone else.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
I've somehow had the willpower to not look at this listBut I did see Frank Ocean was number one on Twitter
I listened to it again, I don't know what I'm missing with Blonde but I do not get it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
the agenda was to piss austin off,
not really. it's just funny to me. they are spewing fox news levels of self-proliferating propaganda. "the most trusted voice in music" or "fair and balanced" — yeah, for that one very specific thing.
the pushing of a narrative is just stupid.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
I've seen Beyonce open with Crazy In Love and she killed it.
Just realised there's only one St Vincent album on the list.
― Matt DC, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link