holy bible is great but the debut it is
― electricsound, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 00:57 (seventeen years ago)
gt is kind of a masterpiece -- a lot of it is awful, but its sheer ridiculousness stood out at the time (and really would prob stand out at any time). gats has a couple of good songs but aged pretty poorly. holy bible is still surprisingly gritty and exciting as music (james bradfield surely gave his best ever vocals here), and a lot of the lyrics ("yes," "die in the summertime") even stand up as poetry, or something closer to it than most pop lyrics. i never listen to EMG but most of it probably still holds up. liked know your enemy a lot at the time, haven't heard it in years.
― J.D., Tuesday, 2 September 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)
Trust Geir to have as his fave manics song the one i hate most.
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)
LIFEBLOOD is 50 % amazing.
can you list the songs you think this of?
It's not that bad but it does have one of the worst songs ever made The Everlasting
whoa, whoa, whoa.... that song's great! the first few times I thought it was forced, but now I find it to be among their best songs, and one of their most affecting.
― res, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 02:28 (seventeen years ago)
IF YOU STAND UP LIKE A NAIL
fUCK YOU
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 02:36 (seventeen years ago)
God, I remember thinking "I've been too honest with myself, I should have lied like everybody else" was the greatest thing I'd ever heard. I was WAY old enough to know better at that point as well.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 09:06 (seventeen years ago)
There are no bad tracks on the 1st three ablums, I'm gonna vote GT to balance out the contrarianism a bit.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 09:48 (seventeen years ago)
I don't look for nihilistic songs. Period.
WHY THE HOLY FUCK ARE YOU LISTENING TO THE MANICS THEN?
― ailsa, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 10:29 (seventeen years ago)
Ailsa otm
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 11:52 (seventeen years ago)
I'm a bit amazed at how popular this band seem to be here
― Tom D., Tuesday, 2 September 2008 11:56 (seventeen years ago)
but you're delighted about it?
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)
Couldn't be less delighted
― Tom D., Tuesday, 2 September 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)
These guys sell out arenas in Europe, right? Cause in America they're completely obscure.
I don't pay attention to their lyrics very much, and could care less about their politics. But Know Your Enemy is a great rock album, particularly Epicentre.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)
I don't pay attention to their lyrics very much, and could care less about their politics.
Yeah I feel this way about the Democrats.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 18:09 (seventeen years ago)
Are they big in mainland Europe or just here in the UK? (stan m to thread?)
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)
i like the way Sean looks in that photo. He looks like he's about 12 years old.
― res, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)
V big in Thailand apparently.
― Neil S, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 20:20 (seventeen years ago)
Funny you should say that, as I was in Thailand several years back and heard one of their songs playing out of someone's car. at the time, I thought it very odd.
― res, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)
I remember reading an article about them about 14 years ago with them visiting Thailand and mass hysteria and arm cutting occurring amongst their fans. Pretty fucked up.
― Neil S, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)
And Richey visiting a prostitute
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)
yes that's right ham shandies all round!
― Neil S, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 20:36 (seventeen years ago)
Even better is how Nicky looks like Shirley off EastEnders in that photo.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
dunno who that is
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Carter
― res, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
It is pretty uncanny:
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:JfT_AndWpk4K7M:http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images/0836_103919_116883.jpg
― Neil S, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:03 (seventeen years ago)
x-post!
― Neil S, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:04 (seventeen years ago)
i see the resemblance
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)
nicky's way cuter though. i saw them in concert once and nicky made both me and my female friend swoon!
― res, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)
one of the last times I saw them he wore angel wings
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
one of the nights at the barrowlands on the know your enemy tour.
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 21:41 (seventeen years ago)
he was wearing a feathered boa when I saw him.
― res, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)
oh he probably had that too. He definitely had one on his mic. That gig was 1999 it seems.
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)
Are they big in mainland Europe or just here in the UK?
The "Everything Must Go" album sold well here, as did also "This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours". Before that they didn't mean much.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 23:46 (seventeen years ago)
Before that they didn't mean much.
you mean when they were great.
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)
I'm glad I did make this poll last longer now.
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 3 September 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)
So Manics.........
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 19:07 (seventeen years ago)
Manics at Hull Adelphi 1991 - incendiary. Ruffled Ritchie's hair and haven't washed my right boot since.Can't reach it as strapped in zimmer.
― Fer Ark, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:03 (seventeen years ago)
Would've loved to have seen them then.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 11 September 2008 00:46 (seventeen years ago)
My mate saw them at King Tuts in 91
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:07 (seventeen years ago)
he told me he saw them quite a few times back then.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 September 2008 00:12 (seventeen years ago)
More convinced than ever that I know Fer Ark IRL.
― Camille Pagliacci (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 September 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)
Have you asked him?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 September 2008 00:18 (seventeen years ago)
bump
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)
Listened to the 1st 3 albums this evening. Still sound great, even if GT is a bit overlong and the ep versions of songs were better.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 21 September 2008 00:31 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.thisisyesterday.com/pics/last_gig.jpg
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 September 2008 11:14 (seventeen years ago)
idea that 'the holy bible' was ironic, courtesy but stanton, is adorable.
― spanish girls, they like to call me pancho (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 21 September 2008 11:29 (seventeen years ago)
Nice pic
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 September 2008 17:38 (seventeen years ago)
That Thailand article xp had the quite brilliant headline Bangkoksucker Blues. The NME didn't even use it properly, they threw it away as the tagline on the masthead
I read it again a couple of years ago. Disturbing as the cutting stuff was, it was striking to me now how prudish the tone was. The band sleeping with groupies was a scandal, and Richey's visit to a brothel ('it was just paid masturbation, really') was like the end of the world. I was aware that we're supposed to have become a more sexualised culture over the past decade, but I didn't realise that we started off as the 50s midwest
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 September 2008 17:56 (seventeen years ago)
I remember the same story in RAW or Kerrang and they didn't seem that bothered, they asked how old the girl was and he said not particularly young (prob his age) I suppose the shock may have been because they thought the manics wouldnt approve of groupies and read books and drank tea on the tourbus.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)
Bankoksucker Blues- new handle right there!
― Neil S, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)