Indie kids hate emo kids, right?

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Hate is bad. Love is good.

You love Billy Corgan now? Aw, sweet!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 February 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey! I didn't say Hate is Bad Love Is God Cupid Ride My Arrow To The Empty Hole I Find Hither (wanky guitar solo).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 10 February 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah, heaven.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 February 2003 23:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

on i slightly different note,this summer is saw dude who made fourfa.com's band, funeral diner. very good. very "emo"

juiceboxxx (juiceboxxx), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

See, the only this-thread-relevant bands I like could comfortably pass as either indie or emo.... No Knife for example.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 19:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Funeral Diner is pretty decent... thy really don't have many bands that sound like them. And they're Ex - Portraits of Past

PoP is fucking brilliant; I think the vocalist is in jail for running a meth lab that poisoned his kid.

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

speaking of emo kids - i've been fascinated for ages by the whole willful infantilization thing that accompanies emo (and to a certain extent indie) culture - eg, hoards of mid-20-somethings who still call themselves "kids," talk about "making out" (cf makeoutclub.com) - when was the last time an emo kid just had sex, fer crying out loud?

anyway, a few years ago i read a HIGH-larious bit online about emo that broke down all the childhood tropes that define the (ahem) lifestyle. for the life of me i can't remember where i read this. anyone got a link?

(sorry for the lack of detail. i lost memory headbanging to universal order of armaggedon, all those years ago.)

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 02:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/indiekids.html

?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 03:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

EMO KIDS HAVING SEX DOES NOT COMPUTE AND IS HORRIFYING IN MY MIND!

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...
I am pretty much an emo kid...sweater vests and thrift-store and all...but I tend to lean torwards the new stuff like Jimmy Eat World and Further Seems Forever, not the ones forementioned...

...and I have sex.

Me.

Buddy Holly, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

i must not be emo because i'm not having any sex

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

You have sex with sand mermaids, Buddy?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

Just think of the bondage fun you can have with those wallet chains.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

Indie kids hate emo kids because all indie kids are thirty years old and are jealous of the emo kids' youth or something like that

Ben Dot, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:13 (twenty years ago) link

but i SO want to sleep with some of those emo girls!

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:29 (twenty years ago) link

since there is an obvious disparity between the original emo bands and what's considered emo nowadays, why is it that this new style was never dubbed 'post-emo'?

praying mantis (praying mantis), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

My roommate last year did this project for school where she had a big folding mirror thing. Like, three feet long, two feet high. And folded like one of those dressing shield things in old movies. She photocopied Alkaline Trio lyrics onto overhead sheets. Transparent pieces of plastic. And glued them to the mirror and there were some diagramy sort of clip art things, too.

She drew on our windows with the Crayola markers that you can draw on the windows with and erase easily. Themed for the holiday or the season. A heart one, a snowy one, a Christmas one.

She left Safeway bags in the shower. All the time. Everyday I'd go in and have to pick a Safeway bag of cold water off of the bottom of the shower. She had dreadlocks. She didn't want her hair to get wet, I guess. She put the bag over her head. And she put on the wax while we were watching TV.

She said she hated the Ramones and that she started liking rap after she saw Eight Mile and when her friend came over they listened to Eminem and drank bottles of beer and kept saying stuff like, 'Oh my God! I can't believe I used to like this! Ha ha ha!' because they were so smart and -- listen -- she had this stupid, stupid plan to start a band and they had all of these stupid plans -- it won't sound good with me describing it but when I remembered it just now, I felt angry and -- they had this plan where they would slowly remove instruments from the stage and, man, it was so, so stupid and they just went on and on.

I forget exactly what she wrote in her diary about me. It was because I wrote stuff on the mirror when it was fogged up. When I was standing there, right after I got out of the shower. You write things on the mirror. I don't know what. And when it fogged up again the writing was there again and she thought it was a ghost and I overheard her discussing it with the other girl who lived there and Amanda was saying how the house was haunted. And then she wrote in her diary that she thought it was me who had written something on the mirror and that I was creepy. Tat's the exact word she used, even: 'creepy.' She wrote something like, 'Is it normal to write stuff on mirrors?'

She had a poster of George Bush on her door with all the mis-saying that he'd said. When we watched TV together and we saw George Bush she'd always have to say something about how he looked stupid and evil.

She left the book right out on the couch, too. A stupid orange book with a sun that she wrote in with stupid kid pens.

The guy from Filmmaker got drunk at our house once while I was hiding in my bedroom playing Minesweeper and listening to Ashanti.

She ate a plastic carton of strawberries I had in the fridge.

She had a toque with ears on it.

I have some weird pictures of her underwear. I will upload them.

d k (d k), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

There you go.

d k (d k), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:44 (twenty years ago) link

dk you had me until the photos.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

Oh my, please don't click on that people.

JMMMMM, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

1. I'm really ashamed for starting this thread way back when. God it's retarded.
2. DK beautiful story. Really, I know so many people exactly like that.

David Allen, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

Hell yeah, you ever got it on with a sand mermaid before? Don't knock it until you try it...

xximxnotxemoxx, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

dk: There you go.
sterling: dk you had me until the photos.
jimmy: Oh my, please don't click on that people.

Hey, whats a little clitty litter between friends, eh?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

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Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
I guess u could say im emo....long hair (not dyed),sweaters, etc.
I like indie and emo and rock and i dont give a fuck what other ppl say. Im like the XximxnotxemoxX guy, im inot newer emo not the old crap. I listen to Furter seems forever,Jimmy eat world,Cursive, thursday, taking back sunday, Death cab for Cutie, The rocket summer, the juliana theory, the early november ETC. Even if u hate emo stop talking shit about it.

roberto gonzales rodriguez gomes the third, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

The obvious answer: EVERYBODY hates the Emo kids. `Cos they're so inherently hateable.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago) link

oh my god.!

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

Indie kids hating emo kids is like a butterfly hating a caterpillar: "You mean I used to be that? Eeww!"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

what is emo anyways?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

It's an aesthetic paradigm more than a musical genre.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

Indie kids hating emo kids is like a butterfly hating a caterpillar: "You mean I used to be that? Eeww!"

It could be argued indie kids are merely in the pupa state.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

For what? Jazz nerds?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

definitely something more idiosyncrtatic, yeah.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

argh! idiosyncratic!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

I hate emo, it is ruining the youth, everyones fake depressed because of emo's terrible vocals, I don't blame the listeners though, I would be depressed if I listened to it too.

Jimmy Kragen, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 06:38 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
you guys are really dumb emo is just music with lyrics thats emotional. what the hell is wrong with music being emotional? you guys are fucking idiots if you hate people who listen to music that is somewhat emotional. isnt music supposed to be emotional? i mean come on that is so fuckiung stupid.

im not stupid, Sunday, 21 March 2004 04:07 (twenty years ago) link

Don't get so emotional.

O.Leee.B. (Leee), Sunday, 21 March 2004 07:28 (twenty years ago) link

i m 13 and i completly agree emo does suck and the kids wh like it

Robert Willcutt, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

i m 13 and i completly agree emo does suck and the kids who like it.

Robert Willcutt, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago) link

If you think music is supposed to be emotional, no wrong emo is just a bunch of little bastards who think they are cool and tough! they are just little bastards i mean come on people they wear tight leather jeans and sing like fags!

Robert Willcutt, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, thank you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

i mean come on people they wear tight leather jeans and sing like fags!

Soft Cell was emo?!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

Alright man, if youre going to bash something make sure you know whats youre talking about. Whats the point of music and passion if theres no emotion? What would you prefer the music to be about if its not emotional? That would be the downfall of music in itself. When artists dont care and arent emotional. And Emo kids arent cool and tough. Thats the whole point of emo. Deppresed kids who can't get over their ex-girlfriend. I mean come on, leather pants? No no no. That is not emo fashion. The basis of emo fashion is that they wont wear name brand and what the new "trend" is. Thats why they wear the clothes they do. To not ridicule people on what youre wearing. If yyou dont think thats cool, then maybe you should rethink your morals. I dont even know where leather pants came from. Youre 13. Live a little and mature before you bash something you dont know about. Or research a bit.

Dillon, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

and what are leather jeans anyways? those are two completly different things man.

Dillon, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago) link

Emo is fagism.
Emo represents emotional crap
realy people emotional music is like jazz and my grandpa likes that crap.
Dont listen to Dillon known as southpaw
hes an emo freak to

robert Willcutt, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link

Thats why they wear the clothes they do. To not ridicule people on what youre wearing.

Is that why every emo kid wears a v-neck pullover sweater, corduroy pants, black-rimmed glasses, and a pair of Saucony sneakers? It's easier not to ridicule when you're issued a uniform, I guess.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago) link

Dillion and Robert, please continue in your discussion, I think we have a good dialogue going here. Robert I'd like you to explore further about exactly how emo=fagism. And do you think emo (which is really nothing, but fagism) and all this gay marraige hub-bub are somehow related?

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

Best thread revive ever.

realy people emotional music is like jazz and my grandpa likes that crap.

I swear to god I'm going to use this as a song title.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

Thankyou all for your support in my arguement and those who were ridiculing me you shall learn emo sucks

Robert Willcutt, Thursday, 25 March 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

Emoness Rocks!!!!

Jennifer, Thursday, 25 March 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link


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