pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small. like what a tiny little universe of music to listen to

― marcos, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:23 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

dude the average American in their late 20s to early 40s probably listens to three new records a year. i know music critics are a different breed, but you gotta keep scale in mind.

the music of Malcolm Gladwell's Life.

I think I posted here about that. I'm not able to get worked up about Pitchfork since right about then.

marcos otm tbh

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small.

A list like this is going to be the consensus top 20 or so records from each year, so I wouldn't expect to see anything left field here

Same could be said for much of ILM tbh. Most rolling genre threads are ghettos.

But yeah this feels way too soon. Imagine what would have been left off a music writers 1970s list made in Oct. 1979.

country and reggae records, probably

Same could be said for much of ILM tbh

Aren’t pitchfork and ilm comprised of a lot of the same people?

And even the writers and editors that don’t post here—i imagine they’re influenced by some of the critics who still hang around here

Maybe not idk. This did feel like a blander ilm list to me though

if you've listened to more than 100 of these records, you get. you get and don't you come back!

Quite a few 'forkers haunt this site, yeah. And some have (inexplicably) vanished (I miss dleone).

I'm scanning through this list now and I just got to ANOHNI, which I hated so much that I feel like its presence invalidates the entire list

Lol

There also seems to be some political factor in the rankings in here. Ranking higher albums with some political posturing or that feel more “woke” than albums with none of it.

p4k is definitely (& for the better imo) a more diverse & socially conscious publication than it has ever been, there are great black artists all over this list, but like.... we got 60 million latinos in the US and some of us like adventurous independent music and p4k acknowledges....lemme check... bad bunny and elysia crampton and who else? rosalia doesn't count lol. i even checked out helado negro and this dude just makes quiet bedroom indie folk, not that a latino artist can't make indie bedroom folk but like i think the latin american musical presence in p4k's realms should be better represented than that

downtown boys and hurray for the riff raff are latinx too, but point taken

I just hit Jamie XX and Norman Fucking Rockwell and this is just not my demographic at all

Imagine what would have been left off a music writers 1970s list made in Oct. 1979.

London Calling.

consensus picks becoming more difficult and less relevant.

all the same, the only thing being represented with putting on Jamie xx and Frankie Cosmos are the people that write for Pitchfork

Those acts are great

I caught you!

lmao both Frank Ocean albums in the top 10

I'm filing this under "very much in character"

He combines a bedroom pop/indie aesthetic pitchfork relates to with their new(er) passion for r and b and hip hop

what changed about the web that we got to have the full lists on single massive pages? I was expecting to have to click 20 times.

I like that they placed 'Mono No Aware' and didn't forget about Emeralds' album. But that's about it.

He combines a bedroom pop/indie aesthetic pitchfork relates to with their new(er) passion for r and b and hip hop

He's also recorded a total of three good songs over his entire career

what changed about the web that we got to have the full lists on single massive pages? I was expecting to have to click 20 times.

― maffew12, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:03 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Instead you have to scroll for an hour to get to the top ten!

End key for life

downtown boys and hurray for the riff raff are latinx too, but point taken

― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:55 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

missed them yes, thank you!

I ctrl+f'd Kendrick straight away.

End key for life

― maffew12, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:06 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

No End key on an iPhone AFAIK

There also seems to be some political factor in the rankings in here.

gosh, you think?

what changed about the web that we got to have the full lists on single massive pages? I was expecting to have to click 20 times.

― maffew12, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:03 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

increased focus on time on site as opposed to pageviews

few real big flicks should do you. careful tho

(see: the recent comscore news of "a lot of pageviews are bullshit we at comscore made up so our executives could get their bonus")

oh,cool, thanks.

hasn't anyone just cut and pasted the list here yet? Am i obliged to?

We really should start a new thread for this.

Almost 15,000 messages at this point itt.

xxp somebody did in the 2010s lists thread

I find the Venn diagram of Pitchfork's consensus tastes compared to mine fascinating because the area where they overlap with me contains a bunch of my favorite stuff in the world and the area where they do not contains things I not only dislike but find actively offensive.

xp to vc, cool; i'll post the albums here.

Not a close p4k reader but did they largely ignore vaporwave all together? Seems like something they'd big up, but there's no albums in the list (which is wrong).

lol, this list is ridiculous.

In this series of lists and features, Pitchfork takes a deep dive into the artists, genres, and movements that shaped the past ten years. We think it represents the best of what this landmark decade had to offer, and gives insight into where we may be going in the next one.

until we revise it in a few years' time lol

Aren’t pitchfork and ilm comprised of a lot of the same people?

― treeship., Tuesday, October 8, 2019 11:44 AM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

And even the writers and editors that don’t post here—i imagine they’re influenced by some of the critics who still hang around here

― treeship., Tuesday, October 8, 2019 11:44 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This feels much less true than it did 10 years ago.

ANOHNI has indie cred from the previous decade, has political songs about drone bombings and such and is perhaps the most popular transgender in the crowd that pitchfork caters to.

I've learned that music critic, music journalism, and academe are discrete communities that rarely overlap. When I go to MoPop, I stumble on a couple of Pitchforkers at most; when I go to the festival, it's the same.

NOW That's What I Call a Small and Often Bafflingly Curated Selection of Mostly Noteworthy and Almost Entirely Commercially Accessible Albums Released in the Last Ten Years, Liberally Spiced with a Few Darlings of the Moment and Arranged in an Arbitrary Fashion, That Will Retain Relevancy - Even Among Its Intended Audience - for Less Than Twelve Months!

200. Ratking: So It Goes (2014)
199. Wu Lyf: Go Tell Fire to the Mountain (2011)
198. Jean Grae / Quelle Chris: Everything’s Fine (2018)
197. Fatima Al Qadiri: Genre-Specific Xperience (2011)
196. Portal: Vexovoid (2013)
195. Downtown Boys: Full Communism (2015)
194. Titus Andronicus: The Monitor (2010)
193. Lil Peep: Hellboy (2016)
192. Kelela: Cut 4 Me (2013)
191. Kate Bush: 50 Words for Snow (2011)
190. Huerco S.: For Those of You Who Have Never (and Also Those Who Have) (2016)
189. Miranda Lambert: The Weight of These Wings (2016)
188. Pusha-T: Daytona (2018)
187. Iceage: Beyondless (2018)
186. Various Artists: Mono No Aware (2017)
185. Hailu Mergia: Lala Belu (2018)
184. Soccer Mommy: Clean (2018)
183. Elysia Crampton: American Drift (2015)
182. G.L.O.S.S.: Trans Day of Revenge (2016)
181. Jamila Woods: LEGACY! LEGACY! (2019)
180. Chvrches: The Bones of What You Believe (2013)
179. Shabazz Palaces: Black Up (2011)
178. Savages: Silence Yourself (2013)
177. Margo Price: All American Made (2017)
176. Gil Scott-Heron: I’m New Here (2010)
175. Jessie Ware: Devotion (2012)
174. Sharon Van Etten: Are We There (2014)
173. Hurray for the Riff Raff: Small Town Heroes (2014)
172. Popcaan: Where We Come From (2014)
171. JPEGMAFIA: Veteran (2018)
170. Skee Mask: Compro (2018)
169. Paramore: After Laughter (2017)
168. Julianna Barwick: The Magic Place (2011)
167. (Sandy) Alex G: DSU (2014)
166. Nicki Minaj: The Pinkprint (2014)
165. Jay Som: Everybody Works (2017)
164. Hop Along: Painted Shut (2015)
163. Meek Mill: Dreamchasers 2 (2012)
162. Sturgill Simpson: Metamodern Sounds in Country Music (2014)
161. The 1975: I like it when you sleep… (2016)
160. Noname: Room 25 (2018)
159. Pallbearer: Foundations of Burden (2014)
158. Sleigh Bells: Treats (2010)
157. The 1975: A Brief Inquiry Into Online Relationships (2018)
156. Jenny Lewis: The Voyager (2014)
155. 21 Savage / Metro Boomin: Savage Mode (2016)
154. Mica Levi: Under the Skin OST (2014)
153. Purple Mountains: Purple Mountains (2019)
152. Arctic Monkeys: AM (2013)
151. Lady Gaga: The Fame Monster (2009)
150. Playboi Carti: Playboi Carti (2017)
149. Mac DeMarco: 2 (2012)
148. Nicolas Jaar: Space Is Only Noise (2011)
147. The National: High Violet (2010)
146. Sheer Mag: Compilation (2017)
145. Chief Keef: Finally Rich (2012)
144. PJ Harvey: Let England Shake (2011)
143. Weyes Blood: Titanic Rising (2019)
142. Fennesz: Agora (2019)
141. Rick Ross: Rich Forever (2012)
140. Parquet Courts: Sunbathing Animal (2014)
139. Emeralds: Does It Look Like I’m Here? (2010)
138. Alabama Shakes: Sound & Color (2015)
137. A$AP Rocky: LIVE.LOVE.A$AP (2011)
136. Tim Hecker: Ravedeath, 1972 (2011)
135. Fleet Foxes: Helplessness Blues (2011)
134. M83: Hurry Up, We’re Dreaming (2011)
133. Frankie Cosmos: Zentropy (2014)
132. Amen Dunes: Freedom (2018)
131. Run the Jewels: Run the Jewels 2 (2014)
130. Tame Impala: Lonerism (2012)
129. Various Artists: Bangs and Works Vol. 1: A Chicago Footwork Compilation (2010)
128. Radiohead: A Moon Shaped Pool (2016)
127. Car Seat Headrest: Teens of Denial (2016)
126. Panda Bear: Tomboy (2011)
125. Yves Tumor: Safe in the Hands of Love (2018)
124. Real Estate: Days (2011)
123. Deafheaven: Sunbather (2013)
122. Snail Mail: Lush (2018)
121. The Hotelier: Home, Like Noplace Is There (2014)
120. Tyler, the Creator: Flower Boy (2017)
119. Girlpool: Before the World Was Big (2015)
118. Leonard Cohen: You Want It Darker (2016)
117. Death Grips: The Money Store (2012)
116. Janelle Monáe: The ArchAndroid (2010)
115. U.S. Girls: In a Poem Unlimited (2018)
114. Sampha: Process (2017)
113. Japandroids: Celebration Rock (2012)
112. Daft Punk: Random Access Memories (2013)
111. EMA: Past Life Martyred Saints (2011)
110. Waka Flocka Flame: Flockaveli (2010)
109. Julia Holter: Aviary (2018)
108. Kaytranada: 99.9% (2016)
107. Dirty Projectors: Swing Lo Magellan (2012)
106. Moses Sumney: Aromanticism (2017)
105. Disclosure: Settle (2013)
104. Waxahatchee: Cerulean Salt (2013)
103. Helado Negro: This Is How You Smile (2019)
102. Jeremih: Late Nights: The Album (2015)
101. Chromatics: Kill for Love (2012)
100. Ariana Grande: Sweetener (2018)
99. Bad Bunny: X 100PRE (2018)
98. Todd Terje: It’s Album Time (2014)
97. The War on Drugs: Lost in the Dream (2014)
96. Low: Double Negative (2018)
95. Jai Paul: Leak 04-13 (Bait Ones) (2019)
94. Vampire Weekend: Contra (2010)
93. Tirzah: Devotion (2018)
92. JAY-Z / Kanye West: Watch the Throne (2011)
91. Bon Iver: 22, A Million (2016)
90. Joyce Manor: Never Hungover Again (2014)
89. Caribou: Our Love (2014)
88. Jenny Hval: Apocalypse, girl (2015)
87. Rae Sremmurd: SremmLife (2015)
86. Haim: Days Are Gone (2013)
85. Jessica Pratt: On Your Own Love Again (2015)
84. Chance the Rapper: Acid Rap (2013)
83. Burial: Rival Dealer EP (2013)
82. Girls: Father, Son, Holy Ghost (2011)
81. Solange: When I Get Home (2019)
80. Aphex Twin: Syro (2014)
79. Tame Impala: Currents (2015)
78. Kurt Vile: Smoke Ring for My Halo (2011)
77. Four Tet: There Is Love in You (2010)
76. Arcade Fire: The Suburbs (2010)
75. The Weeknd: House of Balloons (2011)
74. SOPHIE: OIL OF EVERY PEARL’s UN-INSIDES (2018)
73. Cardi B: Invasion of Privacy (2018)
72. Father John Misty: I Love You, Honeybear (2015)
71. Robyn: Honey (2018)
70. Perfume Genius: No Shape (2017)
69. Drake: If You’re Reading This, It’s Too Late (2015)
68. Flying Lotus: Cosmogramma (2010)
67. Courtney Barnett: Sometimes I Sit and Think, and Sometimes I Just Sit (2015)
66. Fever Ray: Plunge (2017)
65. Future: Dirty Sprite 2 (2015)
64. Mitski: Be the Cowboy (2018)
63. Danny Brown: XXX (2011)
62. Grouper: Ruins (2014)
61. Arca: Arca (2017)
60. King Krule: The OOZ (2017)
59. Taylor Swift: Red (2012)
58. Kamasi Washington: The Epic (2015)
57. Kendrick Lamar: DAMN. (2017)
56. Björk: Vulnicura (2015)
55. St. Vincent: Strange Mercy (2011)
54. Young Thug: Barter 6 (2015)
53. Jlin: Black Origami (2017)
52. LCD Soundsystem: This Is Happening (2010)
51. DJ Koze: Knock Knock (2018)
50. Grimes: Visions (2012)
49. Oneohtrix Point Never: Replica (2011)
48. ANOHNI: Hopelessness (2016)
47. Carly Rae Jepsen: E•MO•TION (2015)
46. The Knife: Shaking the Habitual (2013)
45. Mount Eerie: A Crow Looked at Me (2017)
44. A Tribe Called Quest: We got it from Here... Thank You 4 Your service (2016)
43. Sky Ferreira: Night Time, My Time (2013)
42. Erykah Badu: New Amerykah Part Two: Return of the Ankh (2010)
41. Beyoncé: Lemonade (2016)
40. Charli XCX: Pop 2 (2017)
39. Bill Callahan: Apocalypse (2011)
38. Tierra Whack: Whack World (2018)
37. David Bowie: Blackstar (2016)
36. Rosalía: El Mal Querer (2018)
35. Blood Orange: Cupid Deluxe (2013)
34. Vince Staples: Summertime ’06 (2015)
33. Big Thief: U.F.O.F. (2019)
32. Bon Iver: Bon Iver (2011)
31. Beyoncé: 4 (2011)
30. Mitski: Puberty 2 (2016)
29. Deerhunter: Halcyon Digest (2010)
28. FKA twigs: LP1 (2014)
27. Earl Sweatshirt: Some Rap Songs (2018)
26. Angel Olsen: Burn Your Fire for No Witness (2014)
25. Jamie xx: In Colour (2015)
24. SZA: CTRL (2017)
23. Kacey Musgraves: Golden Hour (2018)
22. Destroyer: Kaputt (2011)
21. Beach House: Teen Dream (2010)
20. DJ Rashad: Double Cup (2013)
19. Lana Del Rey: Norman Fucking Rockwell! (2019)
18. Kendrick Lamar: good kid, m.A.A.d. city (2012)
17. Sufjan Stevens: Carrie & Lowell (2015)
16. Joanna Newsom: Have One on Me (2010)
15. Kanye West: Yeezus (2013)
14. Lorde: Melodrama (2017)
13. Drake: Take Care (2011)
12. Rihanna: ANTI (2016)
11. Grimes: Art Angels (2015)
10. Frank Ocean: Channel Orange (2012)
9. D’Angelo & the Vanguard: Black Messiah (2014)
8. Robyn: Body Talk (2010)
7. Vampire Weekend: Modern Vampires of the City (2013)
6. Solange: A Seat at the Table (2016)
5. Fiona Apple: The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than the Driver of the Screw and Whipping Cords Will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do (2012)
4. Kendrick Lamar: To Pimp a Butterfly (2015)
3. Beyoncé: Beyoncé (2013)
2. Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)
1. Frank Ocean: Blonde (2016)