pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

ultimately, yeah, that seems to be the popular take.

those damn kids and their mtv

have you watched mtv recently? because it's exactly the problem. it's always been shit (much like pfork), but at least they used to show videos from actual singers, musicians, etc.

pfork is (and always has been) a glorified lifestyle page.

Yep. the lists are boring, but... how could they have possibly not been, really?

Beyonce over Lemonade tho #courage

I dont actually agree with that. To its credit pitchfork keeps its coverage centered on music. It’s not lifestyle journalism.

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small. like what a tiny little universe of music to listen to

xp austin

treeship, you just opened a Pandora's box of people posting links to Stranger Things news and "What beer pairs best with Tame Impala" posts.

They do that?

I always go to the reviews, which are frustrating but at least they’re reviews

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small. like what a tiny little universe of music to listen to

― marcos, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:23 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

dude the average American in their late 20s to early 40s probably listens to three new records a year. i know music critics are a different breed, but you gotta keep scale in mind.

the music of Malcolm Gladwell's Life.

I think I posted here about that. I'm not able to get worked up about Pitchfork since right about then.

marcos otm tbh

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small.

A list like this is going to be the consensus top 20 or so records from each year, so I wouldn't expect to see anything left field here

Same could be said for much of ILM tbh. Most rolling genre threads are ghettos.

But yeah this feels way too soon. Imagine what would have been left off a music writers 1970s list made in Oct. 1979.

country and reggae records, probably

Same could be said for much of ILM tbh

Aren’t pitchfork and ilm comprised of a lot of the same people?

And even the writers and editors that don’t post here—i imagine they’re influenced by some of the critics who still hang around here

Maybe not idk. This did feel like a blander ilm list to me though

if you've listened to more than 100 of these records, you get. you get and don't you come back!

Quite a few 'forkers haunt this site, yeah. And some have (inexplicably) vanished (I miss dleone).

I'm scanning through this list now and I just got to ANOHNI, which I hated so much that I feel like its presence invalidates the entire list

Lol

There also seems to be some political factor in the rankings in here. Ranking higher albums with some political posturing or that feel more “woke” than albums with none of it.

p4k is definitely (& for the better imo) a more diverse & socially conscious publication than it has ever been, there are great black artists all over this list, but like.... we got 60 million latinos in the US and some of us like adventurous independent music and p4k acknowledges....lemme check... bad bunny and elysia crampton and who else? rosalia doesn't count lol. i even checked out helado negro and this dude just makes quiet bedroom indie folk, not that a latino artist can't make indie bedroom folk but like i think the latin american musical presence in p4k's realms should be better represented than that

downtown boys and hurray for the riff raff are latinx too, but point taken

I just hit Jamie XX and Norman Fucking Rockwell and this is just not my demographic at all

Imagine what would have been left off a music writers 1970s list made in Oct. 1979.

London Calling.

consensus picks becoming more difficult and less relevant.

all the same, the only thing being represented with putting on Jamie xx and Frankie Cosmos are the people that write for Pitchfork

Those acts are great

I caught you!

lmao both Frank Ocean albums in the top 10

I'm filing this under "very much in character"

He combines a bedroom pop/indie aesthetic pitchfork relates to with their new(er) passion for r and b and hip hop

what changed about the web that we got to have the full lists on single massive pages? I was expecting to have to click 20 times.

I like that they placed 'Mono No Aware' and didn't forget about Emeralds' album. But that's about it.

He combines a bedroom pop/indie aesthetic pitchfork relates to with their new(er) passion for r and b and hip hop

He's also recorded a total of three good songs over his entire career

what changed about the web that we got to have the full lists on single massive pages? I was expecting to have to click 20 times.

― maffew12, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:03 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Instead you have to scroll for an hour to get to the top ten!

End key for life

downtown boys and hurray for the riff raff are latinx too, but point taken

― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:55 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

missed them yes, thank you!

I ctrl+f'd Kendrick straight away.

End key for life

― maffew12, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:06 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

No End key on an iPhone AFAIK

There also seems to be some political factor in the rankings in here.

gosh, you think?

what changed about the web that we got to have the full lists on single massive pages? I was expecting to have to click 20 times.

― maffew12, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:03 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

increased focus on time on site as opposed to pageviews

few real big flicks should do you. careful tho

(see: the recent comscore news of "a lot of pageviews are bullshit we at comscore made up so our executives could get their bonus")

oh,cool, thanks.

hasn't anyone just cut and pasted the list here yet? Am i obliged to?

We really should start a new thread for this.

Almost 15,000 messages at this point itt.

xxp somebody did in the 2010s lists thread

I find the Venn diagram of Pitchfork's consensus tastes compared to mine fascinating because the area where they overlap with me contains a bunch of my favorite stuff in the world and the area where they do not contains things I not only dislike but find actively offensive.