pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Oh you're right! Don't know how I missed that. Anyway, ignore that post!

props to this list for informing me about snail mail which i'm too out of it to have known about otherwise

Hahaha pitchfork is so wildly inconsistent on their picks, do they change staff often?

Probably a combination of changing staff and individuals' changing tastes. Which seems utterly normal to me.

was wondering why this had like 400 new answers and of course: lists

two frank ocean albums in the top ten.

http://gph.is/16EI4hW

I guess I'm interested in what gets discarded less as a finger-pointing "gotcha" and more as a way of understanding shifting trends over time.

was wondering why this had like 400 new answers and of course: lists

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 10:50 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Probably should've started a new thread, tbh

pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849495 in a series.)

There also seems to be some political factor in the rankings in here. Ranking higher albums with some political posturing or that feel more “woke” than albums with none of it.

Surprised they stuck with MBDTF, thought it wouldn’t crack their top 20 but I imagine the backlash of one of their perfect score albums not even in the top 20 probably influenced the outcome.

image and whatnot.

not actual music.

Full Communism cracked the top 200.

I think ILM should rank the instances of pitchfork being dumb this decade

image and whatnot.

not actual music.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 11:01 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

those damn kids and their mtv

those damn kids and their mtv

― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:05 PM bookmarkflaglink

the problem is all the instagram posts innot

selfies and celeb deepfakes and tiktok memes and gamer culture

Angel Olsen – My Woman (#9, 2016)
Arcade Fire – Reflektor (#10, 2013)
Ariel Pink – Before Today (#9, 2010)
Ariel Pink – Pom Pom (#9, 2014)
Beach House – Bloom (#7, 2012)
Big Boi – Sir Lucious Left Foot (#4, 2010)
Chance the Rapper – Coloring Book (#6, 2016)
Danny Brown – Old (#5, 2013)
Grizzly Bear – Shields (#10, 2012)
James Blake – The Bells Sketch EP / CMYK EP / Klavierwerke EP (#8, 2010)
Kanye West – Life of Pablo (#5, 2016)
Kelela – Take Me Apart (#4, 2017)
Majical Cloudz – Impersonator (#8, 2013)
Miguel – Wildheart (#8, 2015)
My Bloody Valentine – m b v (#4, 2013)
Sun Kil Moon – Benji (#7, 2014)
Swans – The Seer (#5, 2012)
Swans – To Be Kind (#6, 2014)
Tune-Yards – w h o k i l l (#7, 2011)
Vince Staples – Big Fish Theory (#7, 2017)

― jaymc, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 11:21 AM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

So they’re pivoting from their indie rock roots. A little sad as someone whose early taste was formed by indie, but arcade fire, beach house, mbv, grizzly bear and other groups like that—tune yards—don’t reflect the 2019 zeitgeist.

The omission of my woman and mbv is truly insane to me. Especially my woman because they included an angel olsen album.

xpost it can be argued that that shit never actually really reflected any zeitgeist beyond the inflated self-worth of white ppl, but ymmv

This way, good sir:

trenchant social commentary 2

ultimately, yeah, that seems to be the popular take.

those damn kids and their mtv

have you watched mtv recently? because it's exactly the problem. it's always been shit (much like pfork), but at least they used to show videos from actual singers, musicians, etc.

pfork is (and always has been) a glorified lifestyle page.

Yep. the lists are boring, but... how could they have possibly not been, really?

Beyonce over Lemonade tho #courage

I dont actually agree with that. To its credit pitchfork keeps its coverage centered on music. It’s not lifestyle journalism.

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small. like what a tiny little universe of music to listen to

xp austin

treeship, you just opened a Pandora's box of people posting links to Stranger Things news and "What beer pairs best with Tame Impala" posts.

They do that?

I always go to the reviews, which are frustrating but at least they’re reviews

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small. like what a tiny little universe of music to listen to

― marcos, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:23 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

dude the average American in their late 20s to early 40s probably listens to three new records a year. i know music critics are a different breed, but you gotta keep scale in mind.

the music of Malcolm Gladwell's Life.

I think I posted here about that. I'm not able to get worked up about Pitchfork since right about then.

marcos otm tbh

this whole list, with all the names on it that we've been accustomed to seeing so many times over the past decade, feels so, i don't know, small.

A list like this is going to be the consensus top 20 or so records from each year, so I wouldn't expect to see anything left field here

Same could be said for much of ILM tbh. Most rolling genre threads are ghettos.

But yeah this feels way too soon. Imagine what would have been left off a music writers 1970s list made in Oct. 1979.

country and reggae records, probably

Same could be said for much of ILM tbh

Aren’t pitchfork and ilm comprised of a lot of the same people?

And even the writers and editors that don’t post here—i imagine they’re influenced by some of the critics who still hang around here

Maybe not idk. This did feel like a blander ilm list to me though

if you've listened to more than 100 of these records, you get. you get and don't you come back!

Quite a few 'forkers haunt this site, yeah. And some have (inexplicably) vanished (I miss dleone).

I'm scanning through this list now and I just got to ANOHNI, which I hated so much that I feel like its presence invalidates the entire list

Lol

There also seems to be some political factor in the rankings in here. Ranking higher albums with some political posturing or that feel more “woke” than albums with none of it.

p4k is definitely (& for the better imo) a more diverse & socially conscious publication than it has ever been, there are great black artists all over this list, but like.... we got 60 million latinos in the US and some of us like adventurous independent music and p4k acknowledges....lemme check... bad bunny and elysia crampton and who else? rosalia doesn't count lol. i even checked out helado negro and this dude just makes quiet bedroom indie folk, not that a latino artist can't make indie bedroom folk but like i think the latin american musical presence in p4k's realms should be better represented than that

downtown boys and hurray for the riff raff are latinx too, but point taken

I just hit Jamie XX and Norman Fucking Rockwell and this is just not my demographic at all

Imagine what would have been left off a music writers 1970s list made in Oct. 1979.

London Calling.

consensus picks becoming more difficult and less relevant.

all the same, the only thing being represented with putting on Jamie xx and Frankie Cosmos are the people that write for Pitchfork

Those acts are great

I caught you!