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new album already?

just sayin, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:24 (six years ago)

that should probably be 'new album already!'

just sayin, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:26 (six years ago)

7? Have I missed 6?

mmmm, Monday, 30 September 2019 10:08 (six years ago)

Haha I half wonder if they're just releasing individual discs from a huge boxset-sized debut album

7 is the one, I think (so far)--5 is pretty great debut for a 'sound' band--foregrounding those influences that seemingly nobody will ever tire of--but some of those songs on 7 really hit me deep in the soul

the cretin hits the cast (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:15 (six years ago)

two weeks pass...

Both albums are amazingly consistent, hard to really choose one over the other. Huge low-end throughout. I feel wrong saying it, but this is what I wish ESG sounded like.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 21 October 2019 23:12 (six years ago)

My copy of the 2nd one should arrive tomorrow. I'm perfectly happy with how ESG sound already and wouldn't change anything about their sound, but if their more recent recordings had sounded more like this I'd probably play them more.

stirmonster, Monday, 21 October 2019 23:44 (six years ago)

"why, why why" is an earworm and a half even on a first listen.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 00:02 (six years ago)

one month passes...

Damn totally missed the second release!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:28 (six years ago)

It's really good too, although I feel ever slightly more favorably toward 5.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:37 (six years ago)

They're both pretty fucking amazing. Love the trend of bands popping out 2 albums this year

octobeard, Saturday, 23 November 2019 02:03 (six years ago)

Really enjoy the slight layer of polish distinguishing the second album from the first. Even more, I enjoy trying to figure out if it’s the songs as a whole or the brilliance of the rhythm section that’s the force of what’s captivating me.

file of unknown origin (bendy), Saturday, 23 November 2019 04:45 (six years ago)

For me it’s the brilliance of the rhythm section. They are amazing. Apparently there’s a tour planned next year so I guess we’ll finally meet the people behind it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 November 2019 07:15 (six years ago)

yes, all about the rhythm section for me. is anybody else's copy of the second album warped?

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:54 (six years ago)

Gradually, I'm growing to feel like this is ace songwriting, both wishing I could articulate why and knowing that I like it because I can't pin it down. It's Sly & Robbie, but it's also Sly and Robbie and Black Uhuru.

file of unknown origin (bendy), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:52 (six years ago)

The grooves carry them on tracks that are less fleshed out, but there's definitely some standout songwriting too. "Why Why Why Why Why", "Masterpiece", and "Friends" leap to mind as A+ writing.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 November 2019 14:03 (six years ago)

Yes, the grooves are what drew me in to begin with but the songwriting is what elevates it into something very special. it will be very interesting to see how it works live.

stirmonster, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

two weeks pass...

I missed the previous discussion on this but gave it a listen after seeing it listed as Bandcamp’s second best album of the year. Rhythm section really shines.

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 14 December 2019 10:31 (six years ago)

Jesus Christ these records are so utterly, completely everything I want/need in new music. Even things I love wholeheartedly, it's incredibly rare to hear something where just every decision feels so exactly right.

This has to be related to Little Simz, no?

The only connection I really hear to ESG (whom I adore) is that it's so perfectly minimalist--there's never more than like three or four sound sources. I hear some Library tendencies, some high sophistication a la Adrian Younge/Midnight Hour or Michael Kiwanaku but with so much more restraint. If there's an Afrobeat component it feels more like Lijadu Sisters than Fela... I mean, they definitely get the "who does this call back to" synapses firing, but ultimately I really don't care too much because it's just so perfectly timeless--never retro or overtly futurist, just. . . what it needs to be to do what it's trying to do.

Soundslike, Monday, 23 December 2019 05:32 (six years ago)

If this is Danger Mouse related, it's by far the best thing he's ever been involved with. The restraint would seem uncharacteristic. . .

Soundslike, Monday, 23 December 2019 05:40 (six years ago)

If you're not hearing this group, you're missing something pretty damned wonderful:

https://saultglobal.bandcamp.com/

Soundslike, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 06:08 (six years ago)

^ you piqued my interest with those previous posts, so thanks! 7 is especially good, I quickly decided.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 13:04 (six years ago)

i wish the "dancing in the rover" (?) voice from "up all night" would reappear elsewhere. that little refrain is my favorite part of 5 !

budo jeru, Saturday, 4 January 2020 19:31 (six years ago)

we're all voting for "up all night" as the song to represent sault at the 77 best tracks ILM 2019. i said it first that means you have to do it

budo jeru, Saturday, 4 January 2020 19:34 (six years ago)

Kind of wish "Don't Waste My Time" was nominated, but don't want to further dilute the choices.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:06 (six years ago)

i love don’t waste my time! still haven’t heard the new album.

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:11 (six years ago)

I'll go with that just to get them seen/heard--but I don't think I could pick fewer than 10 favorites across the two albums.

I'm pretty firmly sold on '7' as the better of the two albums, though both are top-5 of the year for me...

Soundslike, Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:19 (six years ago)

7 has grown on me but 5 is thee one i reckon. hard to choose between "don't waste my time" and "up all night".

stirmonster, Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:11 (six years ago)

I need to try 7 again, definitely dismissed it too quickly.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:28 (six years ago)

I can't figure getting one and not the other? They're hardly miles apart--tracks could be interchanged freely, other than '7' having a slightly more serious tone overall perhaps?

Soundslike, Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:45 (six years ago)

you're probably right tbh.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 22:02 (six years ago)

okay, there are songs on 5 that it sounds like had existed for many years but which I had only just heard (where has this been all my life?) whereas this one sounds more current and more like a straight RnB record at times (albeit a very good one). I was singing along with Up All Night, Why Why Why... and others after one listen (this is not always a good thing but is in this instance) but I struggle, so far, to have that connection on 7. 5 also sounds like a weird compilation of unheard tracks from various groups whereas 7 sounds like a record by a group (MAYBE) and that is not a negative, it just doesn't seem uncanny in the way 7 does.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:00 (six years ago)

I also want to add how much I love Sault as a band/project name.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:08 (six years ago)

Definitely voting both albums in the eoy poll and I’ll probably vote for all tracks nominated just to be sure.

I was assuming the “dancing in the rover” was a sample? I have both albums on vinyl and credits on it are practically non-existent. if there’s sampling going on in any of the albums it’s as mysterious as the people involved.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:33 (six years ago)

I always sing "Dancing in ye really wap" which is definitely 100% wrong and stupid but I'm also 100% sure it's not "dancing in the rover” either.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:38 (six years ago)

always sounds like vulva to me!

mizzell, Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:52 (six years ago)

Lol, same

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:52 (six years ago)

will vote 7 (although i prefer 5) if y’all rally behind “up all night”

Team Sault must remain united

budo jeru, Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:58 (six years ago)

xp lol this is what i hear:

dancing, dancing in the rover
racing, racing in the vulva

budo jeru, Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:58 (six years ago)

They're both going on my ballot, but 5 is going higher

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:59 (six years ago)

one month passes...

sounding good in the trailer for HBO's new Skate Kitchen spin-off series Betty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tQu2P5n4Bc

mizzell, Monday, 2 March 2020 18:26 (six years ago)

does Pink Sands from Sault 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9NM62YodU

sample the choral interlude part of Kat Bush's Hello earth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S0zNFzK_ns

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 2 March 2020 23:23 (six years ago)

3:12 onward on the KB track.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 2 March 2020 23:27 (six years ago)

oh Kate sampled it herself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvrBWCtylyI

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 2 March 2020 23:31 (six years ago)

https://youtu.be/AvrBWCtylyI

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 2 March 2020 23:32 (six years ago)

It's actually Popol Vuh.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 2 March 2020 23:36 (six years ago)

i should have spotted that.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:17 (six years ago)

two months pass...

is there any place in the usa to buy these records? the only thing i can find is https://www.vinyl-digital.com/en/Black-Grooves/Sault-7-09544353.html?cur=1&listtype=search&searchparam=Sault
which isn’t very clear whether it’s actually in stock or not.
i bought the digital version on bandcamp cause the lp was so pricey but every time i listen to it, i want the record.

mizzell, Monday, 1 June 2020 13:40 (six years ago)

New untitled album coming up. Snippets on their instagram page. Haven’t listened to it yet but it’s presented as a protest album against police brutality and systemic racism.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:38 (six years ago)

Only heard Wildfires and it’s so good.

If they created this 18 track album in the past couple of weeks as a protest stemming from the George Floyd case it’s seriously impressive. Again, I’ve only heard one song from it so far but it’s very promising.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 13 June 2020 18:58 (six years ago)

That London show was insane, easily one of the most impressive things I've attended - lots of high-concept, big-brain stuff, but also plenty of substance. Really sad if this all pans out the way it seems to.

conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Sunday, 16 March 2025 16:59 (one year ago)

Mostly I'm blown away that there are still album budgets in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, March 16, 2025 11:32 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

my first thought as well

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 16 March 2025 18:49 (one year ago)

a dozen or so recording sessions would easily eat up like 50 grand of a major artist's recording budget once you include travel, lodging, incidentals etc for everyone involved and that's prob a very conservative estimate once you start reaching the real upper levels of the pop industry. and that's before you get to paying to any of the producers so that you can release the music (and the major ones will often demand money up front just to show up regardless of what comes out of the sessions)

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 March 2025 16:54 (one year ago)

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/g-s1-56034/cleo-sol-radio-city-music-hall-concert-review

Cleo Sol had her live US debut with 3 shows at Radio City Music Hall in NYC. She is also doing a show at the Hollywood Bowl in Los Angeles

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 March 2025 13:30 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Seem to be releasing a new album song by song to Insta / Twitter?
https://www.instagram.com/saultglobal/
https://x.com/SaultGlobal

Unless I'm mistaken and they've already been released... I'm honestly getting a little confused with their latest material.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 15:13 (one year ago)

yeah this is new material, looking forward to when they release it somewhere it's easier to listen to

ufo, Tuesday, 15 April 2025 22:55 (one year ago)

10 released today

Although doesn't seem to play for me on Spotify for some reason. Anyone else having the same issues?

https://open.spotify.com/album/6MT7ungOXS7u5TcKQt4fve?si=5VDKxTopR5Wg5qujhuVEhw

groovypanda, Friday, 18 April 2025 08:48 (one year ago)

Yeah, I don’t see it on Spotify.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Friday, 18 April 2025 11:49 (one year ago)

"this content is no longer available"

Constance Mischievous (Austin), Friday, 18 April 2025 14:39 (one year ago)

like this band but their mysterioso routine has more than run its course for me. put albums out or dont, but i dont have the energy to keep up with instagram stories with bit.ly links to megaupload folders with unlabeled stems of new material that expire after 666 seconds or whatever, i'm trying to live my life here

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 18 April 2025 15:26 (one year ago)

New Billboard interview with Little Simz paints an unflattering portrait of Inflo.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 18 April 2025 18:49 (one year ago)

wouldn't shock me if Sault wound up being some kind of silicon valley-style money pit tbh

some dude, Saturday, 19 April 2025 17:19 (one year ago)

https://saultglobal.bandcamp.com/album/10-2

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Sunday, 20 April 2025 02:23 (one year ago)

first track on this is really, really good

ufo, Sunday, 20 April 2025 06:34 (one year ago)

phenomenal bass guitar

ufo, Sunday, 20 April 2025 06:34 (one year ago)

one of their better albums

ufo, Sunday, 20 April 2025 11:19 (one year ago)

Yeah on my first couple of listens this is my favorite of theirs in years

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Sunday, 20 April 2025 16:58 (one year ago)

wouldn't shock me if Sault wound up being some kind of silicon valley-style money pit tbh

US$33 for the digital album at bandcamp!

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 20 April 2025 19:07 (one year ago)

It was £7 when I bought it earlier today, would’ve passed on it for £25.

spastic heritage, Sunday, 20 April 2025 19:13 (one year ago)

fascinating

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 20 April 2025 19:15 (one year ago)

they gotta come up with a quick $2 million tbf

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Sunday, 20 April 2025 19:50 (one year ago)

Another great album.

Pains me that Inflo is clearly talented as a producer/musician and I appreciate the vision he had for the concerts but I assume he’s not very business-savvy.

It was so easy to see that the insane and ambitious production didn’t make any damn financial sense for one concert of a single artist. It could potentially work if you have idk a liquor brand or idk Red Bull (who love to burn money and I suspect they’re running a money laundering scheme) throwing money your way or doing a small festival like Tyler, The Creator does with Camp Flog Gnaw.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 April 2025 05:13 (one year ago)

Also the whole anonymous gimmick is probably working against them. Why not just do festivals and normal venues like everybody else. Just have every performer use a cool mask or costumes that covers their face if it’s that important.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 April 2025 05:31 (one year ago)

i think this is probably their best since rise

ufo, Monday, 21 April 2025 09:56 (one year ago)

The Little Simz money situation seems bad — both for her and Inflo. What's he done with all his Adele cash if he can't even pay back a loan?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:52 (one year ago)

oh it's pino palladino on "l.u."

ufo, Monday, 21 April 2025 14:08 (one year ago)

I lot of the pleasure I get from these records, especially the matchstick records, is just how cleanly the rhythm section is recorded. Organic but way upfront. That super-clear peak-analog sound of 1978-1980 before digital compression and gating and reverb comes in. It may well all be recorded digitally but it's not mixed that way.

Theracane Gratifaction (bendy), Monday, 21 April 2025 15:20 (one year ago)

got a new release notification for this on spotify so clicked to listen and got "no longer available" again. sigh. downloaded to my library and am able to listen now and just... the moment has clearly passed. the production still sounds great but there's nothing memorable about any of this music anymore. maybe it'll get better in time, but the last batch of albums hasn't. it simply sounds competent, but stock issue. it sounds like a super tight band with no vision in serious need of a producer.

also i'm ready to address the elephant in the room: they steal riffs. call it homage or continuing in the legacy of whatever but the fact remains that if marvin gaye could successfully sue over "blurred lines", the sault camp is incredibly brazen. i don't have a problem with sampling or interpolating, but i can't sit back anymore and pretend like they're not referencing very specific songs or grooves. if that's part of the band's schtick, fine. but the music isn't standing on its own at all these days.

that said, it's not BAD or UNPLEASANT music by any means. but barring any shakeups, this album seems like another 'one and done' listen.

Constance Mischievous (Austin), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 11:36 (one year ago)

Haven't checked in on their last few (?) but this is sounding really good so far, back in Off the Wall mode. I do like the sense of wish fulfillment that you get from these records, that Inflo is getting to make the kind of records that everyone talks about but people just don't often get to make anymore.

I don't really care if they steal licks, it feels like part of the aesthetic a la LCD Soundsystem. But it's true that that move only really works if the songs are strong.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 14:46 (one year ago)

eight months pass...

New album Chapter 1 out today.

Clocks in at just over half an hour and seems to continue the religious/faith themes of recent releases on first listen

groovypanda, Friday, 9 January 2026 10:07 (five months ago)

notably featuring jam & lewis on half the tracks!

ufo, Saturday, 10 January 2026 13:11 (five months ago)

Have had one close listen - bitter and paranoid in a way that would be off putting to me if it weren’t so grooving and stunningly crafted. Like Here, My Dear filtered through Portishead

bendy, Saturday, 10 January 2026 15:38 (five months ago)


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