soulseek

i still don't use, or even know how to use, any of the functions besides searching and downloading. i've set my share folder and occasionally people will get something from it. that's it.

streaming kinda eclipsed soulseek for me :(

not me, still use it constantly

I was on it recently, and couldn't resist the urge to check if my own music was on it.
It was, which proves that they have pretty much everything on there, as I am extremely obscure (the struggle-to-sell-50-records level).

Incidentally, I wasn't offended, I have downloaded loads of stuff off there myself so can't really complain, just karma I guess.

#humblebrag

I will never log off (from soulseek)

I browsed rushomancy's files today iirc

that wasn't a humblebrag.

but now v interested in who mirostones is!

It kind of was but a completely acceptable one imo (and ditto tbh)

not me, still use it constantly

― Simon H., Saturday, September 28, 2019 6:25 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

curious (since i feel i have a decent grip of what music you listen to from ILM) what you find on there that’s not on streaming?

for me house/techno are the main barrier from streaming . but artists have been getting better at putting stuff up, and ive adjusted by listening to more mixes

punk/underground rock is pretty much fully covered by streaming + Bandcamp

There's still tons of stuff that isn't on there though, my wishlist is a mile long.

I ripped a tape by a somewhat obscure punk band a while ago (I have posted about this band on ilx before and they do have some fans on here) and I was perhaps absurdly happy to see someone I have probably downloaded hundreds of obscure punk records over the years had downloaded it off me yesterday. I don't usually look at the uploads tab I must've been especially bored earlier

I often do my checking out new bands listening on the train so I'd rather download it off slsk than stream band camp tbh

If B camp enabled d/ls that would be huge

don't know why it didn't occur to me until this year that soulseek would be a vastly quicker and easier way to get stuff than it was in 2005

Somebody go do that and make some bill

I downloaded my wife from soulseek so I'm probably more attached to it than most people

punk/underground rock is pretty much fully covered by streaming + Bandcamp

enh there are still weird occasional gaps and not even that-underground stuff, see the Juno record I nommed in the 00-09 poll for example

also b-sides, outtakes etc are often not on streaming

There's loads of 80s/90s punk that isn't on it. Ok mostly tapes at this point

I downloaded my wife from soulseek so I'm probably more attached to it than most people

really? did you meet your wife on it?!

Yep! There's chat rooms on it, they're completely dead nowadays but in 2002 it was happening

amazing!

It was timing really. both of us were unemployed and had a lot of time on our hands to message weirdos halfway across the world who liked Slumberland records

:DDDD

that's amazing and also I now feel like a dummy for having shunned that aspect of the app for almost two decades lol

Tbh the chat side of it died about 15 years ago. Facebook probably

"If B camp enabled d/ls that would be huge" I think you can? well if you buy something you certainly can.

I browsed rushomancy's files today iirc

― Colonel Poo

Sorry the organization is a complete fucking mess

I find I can stump slsk pretty easily myself - there's a lot of stuff that's not on there but is on bandcamp or youtube, not to mention Spotify, which at this point I refuse to use mostly out of sheer cussedness as opposed to any actual principle. Honestly I'd love to get away from using Youtube altogether as well as I consider that site to be very bad. I just have this learned distrust of the "streaming" ecosystem (I don't use either Bandcamp or Youtube primarily as "streaming" sites).

A lot of music these days, I suspect, doesn't have multiple discrete extant copies of it. Which makes it easier for all extant copies of those recordings to be lost. I'm less bothered about this than I used to be, as eventually everything we know will be lost. Humanity will somehow survive despite not being able to hear Crazy Fucking Landlady's Son for themselves. Downloading random shit from the Internet does not make a professional archivist.

I have a fairly long soulseek wishlist myself. Most of it is stuff I probably could or should just buy copies of. It's probably not moral or ethical for me to do this stuff, which is why I tend not to talk about it much.

Ilxor group share !

Yeah there is an ethical consideration especially with stuff you can stream.

I guess I don't like streaming sites because those songs might disappear at any moment and the aforementioned train/no data connection problems

But I have spent and continue to spend a lot of money on music so fuck it imo

records i was recently annoyed weren’t on streaming

jordan fields - moments in dub
default genders - main pop girl*

i have the mp3s on my phone but it’s still annoying i can’t put stuff in playlists etc

*as i understand this is intentional by the artist for political(?) reasons

I'm past the point where I feel like there's any moral or ethical justification for piracy. I should probably stop, particularly with a username with which I can be uniquely identified being mentioned on a public forum (is this thread at least search-deindexed? If not, can it be?)

that's a good idea, actually (from someone not called What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers or jed_ on slsk)

that wasn't a humblebrag.

but now v interested in who mirostones is!

― What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:59 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

It kind of was but a completely acceptable one imo (and ditto tbh)

― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:03 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol!
I can see how it comes across that way, but I also think it's relevant to the thread, as I am sure I am not the only musician to have done this.

I remember Kelly Moran commenting on a similar experience, saying she felt conflicted as she never thought people would care about her music enough to steal it. I wouldn't put it in those terms myself, but I see what she's getting at.

I know some musicians get furious at this discovery, but I personally think that's a waste of time and energy in 2019. Never going to be 1997 again, better to move on at this stage.
As for my own identity, all I will say is I don't think I've ever been discussed on here, so that really is pretty obscure.

apparently not de-indexed, but also for some reason doesn't show up on the first dozen pages of google results. (seriously we have had a lot of soulseek threads here, i didn't even know.) i will stop worrying so much until or unless i receive some indication that anyone, anywhere, gives a fuck about my continuing habit of downloading records nobody cares about off soulseek in addition to my downloading records nobody cares about off youtube.

I have an embarrassingly large Discogs list of “stuff not on Spotify”... like a couple thousand entries, not insanely limited stuff or anything

There’s a lot of music out there! A lot of old music

the dream of the celestial jukebox isn't ever going to be more than approximated in a world with the proliferation of rights-holders we have. there are plenty of well-intentioned pirates who have done a lot in the cause of "freeing the music for the people" or what have you but at the end of the day piracy is an amateur activity, in most jurisdictions an illegal activity, and such can't possibly be as thorough about distributing music as professionals like the people at spotify can. not to mention that pirating music not on commercial streaming, at this point, really only benefits commercial streaming - "hey if you don't sign with us those nasty pirates will distribute your music and then you won't get _anything_!"

you know, it doesn't matter. we don't need to be able to hear all the music, or even all the _best_ music. whatever we have now, it's probably enough.

tl;dr

since quitting physical music and selling all my records my ethically compromised mix is: stream everything i listen to, but go to shows and try to spend 20-50$ per month on bandcamp

there used to be an ilx room

I pay for Spotify to alleviate my guilt over how little music I buy. I go to gigs as often as I can and I use Bandcamp whenever possible to buy. Soulseek still returns nothing when I'm searching for deep cuts of UK Garage and street soul unless you want hissy 128kbps files but thats still better than Spotify a lot of the time.

I dont want to turn this into the "what isn't on Spotify thread" but:

The Chimes "Stronger Together (David Morales Mix)"
Lil Louis "Luv U Wanted"
Movement 98 "Joy & Heartbreak"
Jah Wobble, The Edge, Holger Czukay "Hold On To Your Dreams"
Moodswings "Spiritual High"

I was gonna turn this run of autoplayed Youtube faves into a Spotify playlist, but I can't. And I don't want to use my phone data to stream videos on the train. So off to Soulseek it is.

great micro-story Col. Poo!

I hardly ever use soulseek because it's such a mess. The biggest private torrent music site has pretty much everything I need and it's all properly searchable and curated with different bitrates and stuff. Much prefer that.

can i get an invite

soulseek is great. the only stuff I can't find on there is afrobeats stuff

Jesus.. Seeing so many new answers to the thread have me a right scare! Fortunately it's just an ilx love-in praising the many glories. And CP that story is amazing!

What’s “the biggest private music torrent” site these days ?

I downloaded my wife from soulseek so I'm probably more attached to it than most people

― Colonel Poo

Awwww <3

Anyway, I love slsk, was so happy to find it was still going after I had a break from it of about a decade. My files are horribly disorganised but the main folder it connects to contains a bunch of my own music, so I'm fucking pirating myself, m8s, that's how much I give a shit -> at the end of the day piracy is an amateur activity - this is why I'm for it but anti-Spotify, piracy is about people who can't really afford to buy shit sharing stuff and finding joy, streaming companies are about building a business model that shafts artists in favour of business. It's a whole different world.