pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Whiney G. Weingarten at 5:57 23 Sep 19

Yeah, was just thinking that like 90% of the rap music that's come out in the last 8 years is some variation on either MBDTF or Finally Rich

I feel like 808s and Heartbreak is far more influential

than MBDTF

Yeah, but that was released in the last decade

ah god it doesn't seem like it

literally week by week we get stupider and there are more polls

daft punk at no. 1 just to troll ilx

Interesting predictions so far. I'm guessing it will be a repetitive all male top 10. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it looked something like this

1. Kanye West - MBDTF
2. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
3. Frank Ocean - Blonde
4. Kanye West - Yeezus
5. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
6. Bon Iver - Bon Iver
7. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid
8. Kendrick Lamar - Damn
9. Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
10. Sufjan Stevens - Carrie & Lowell

With some variation of Tame Impala, Vampire Weekend and Tyler The Creator just outside. Not sure who will be the highest female artist. Grimes, Solange or Mitski maybe?

My prediction for the biggest curve-ball is that the last Childish Gambino album is a lot more popular than everyone thinks.

I voted with Ten Love Songs as my number one album and Inspector Norse as my single pick. Not expecting big things for either of them, but I'm sure we'll make up for that next year in our own poll.

MBDTF will be nowhere near the top spot.

bon iver didn't even make the top 20 in their half decade list, and if anything its stock has fallen even further since. as far as female artists go, at the very least solange or mitski will be top 10, and would expect fiona apple, beyonce, and grimes in top 20 at least. beach house too as far as female-fronted groups go

sort of wonder if they still bizarrely overrate jamie xx and he's going to be like top 10 or something lol

i'm glad mbdtf isn't the favourite anymore but i would be shocked if it wasn't top 5

lol @ there being an all male top 10

the new Lana seems like it'll place high, sort of a career summation/summit, hit at the right time

In the public vote, I can see Bon Iver still doing really well.

My predictions are heavily influenced by what we sell at work. We're still selling MBDTF very regularly, almost every week. I don't think the recent backlash has affected him as much as people think.

oh you're talking about the reader vote? i think everyone else has been mostly discussing the staff list. did they do a half-decade readers' poll? i can't find one

Oh yeah sorry, I just re-read the last part of this thread and it's clear we're talking about the staff list now (long day, not enough sleep etc) I was referring to the readers poll they opened up today. There's no way the writers top 10 will be all men (Solange, Mitski, Grimes, SZA etc).

yeah i expect the readers' list will be pretty similar to your guess too

whither Pop 2? Decade top 10 for me.

There's more chance of an all-female top 10 than an all-male top 10.

just speaking of these artists and albums like they're fucking royalty is sickening. ban canons, ban pitchfork

music polls should be fun and unpredictable, not mere processions

One of them even christened himself King Krule ffs.

bon iver didn't even make the top 20 in their half decade list, and if anything its stock has fallen even further since.

I don't know about that, Pfork has been all over Bon Iver this summer. There was that article detailing every little thing he's done since the last album and that huge profile.

can we refer to him by his full title, viscount bon d'hiver

Man, I love that SZA record, too

i meant the bon iver s/t specifically, they're still well-liked enough as a band but that album seemingly lost its '9.5/10 #1 album of 2011' shine a long time ago

The self titled is a masterpiece. Especially the final three songs.

Wow, just scanning through the Bon Iver wiki, he's got the most consistently high Pitchfork numbers that I've ever seen. Publicists hate him! Learn the truth now

NFR! will place in the 15-25 zone.

whither Pop 2? Decade top 10 for me.

― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK)

It feels weird that I still consider Sucker to be her masterpiece. She's pretty much disowned it now.

just speaking of these artists and albums like they're fucking royalty is sickening. ban canons

+1000

Wow, just scanning through the Bon Iver wiki, he's got the most consistently high Pitchfork numbers that I've ever seen. Publicists hate him! Learn the truth now

― fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 7:33 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

go on...

I’d bet money visions is top 10, would even take odds for top 5

That would be cool if no one read the list.

That would be cool if no one read the list.

#focused

#squadgoals

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Nope, I'm good.

new sidethread: "least appealing pfork headlines"

his project Hemlock Ernst is rly good, he's been doing that stuff pre-Future Islands

Both dominant parties in American politics—the right and center-left—caricature Antifa as jackbooted extremists, rather than guys like Haggerty who fought racism on a street level and whose obituary noted how much he enjoyed the beach and the Boston Celtics.

No one who speaks German could be an evil man!

So how do they decide which jazz records to review once in a blue moon? Reissues notwithstanding.

I think some of the more indie-leaning ones are obvious choices (The Comet Is Coming, Eli Keszler, Kamasi Washington). But today's pick (Marilyn Crispell & Tyshawn Sorey ) definitely feels more like "oh, so you're covering jazz now"
(not that i'm complaining)

As soon as I saw it had been covered I knew exactly who'd written about it - Seth Colter Walls is one of their best and most interesting writers, and he covers that "brainy jazz/modern composition/art music" territory really well.

It's a really good record btw. I'm interviewing Marilyn Crispell this afternoon.

Not ready for John Mayer encomiums, thx

can't even tell you how much i loved that record in high school lol

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-200-best-songs-of-the-2010s/

1. Kendrick Lamar: “Alright” (2015)
2. Grimes: “Oblivion” (2012)
3. Robyn: “Dancing on My Own” (2010)
4. Beyoncé: “Formation” (2016)
5. Frank Ocean: “Thinkin Bout You” (2012)
6. Azealia Banks: “212” (2011)
7. Mitski: “Your Best American Girl” (2016)
8. Solange: “Cranes in the Sky” (2016)
9. Lana Del Rey: “Video Games” (2011)
10. Lil Uzi Vert: “XO TOUR Llif3” (2017)
11. Bill Callahan: “Riding for the Feeling” (2011)
12. Sky Ferreira: “Everything Is Embarrassing” (2012)
13. Chief Keef: “I Don’t Like” [ft. Lil Reese] (2012)
14. Angel Olsen: “Shut Up Kiss Me” (2016)
15. Rihanna: “Work” [ft. Drake] (2016)
16. The 1975: “Love It If We Made It” (2018)
17. Jamie xx: “Gosh” (2015)
18. Kanye West: “Runaway” [ft. Pusha T] (2010)
19. Vampire Weekend: “Hannah Hunt” (2013)
20. M83: “Midnight City” (2011)
21. Drake: “Hold On, We’re Going Home” [ft. Majid Jordan] (2013)
22. ANOHNI: “Drone Bomb Me” (2016)
23. Rosalía: “Malamente (Cap.1: Augurio)” (2018)
24. Todd Terje: “Inspector Norse” (2012)
25. FKA twigs: “Cellophane” (2019)
26. Bon Iver: “Holocene” (2011)
27. M.I.A.: “Bad Girls” (2010)
28. Beyoncé: “Countdown” (2011)
29. Joanna Newsom: “Good Intentions Paving Co.” (2010)
30. Cardi B: “Bodak Yellow” (2017)
31. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti: “Round and Round” (2010)
32. Fiona Apple: “Every Single Night” (2012)
33. LCD Soundsystem: “Dance Yrself Clean” (2010)
34. Future Islands: “Seasons (Waiting on You)” (2014)
35. Rae Sremmurd: “Black Beatles” [ft. Gucci Mane] (2016)
36. Carly Rae Jepsen: “Run Away With Me” (2015)
37. Jai Paul: “BTSTU (edit)” (2011)
38. Kanye West: “Monster” [ft. Justin Vernon, Rick Ross, JAY-Z, and Nicki Minaj] (2010)
39. SOPHIE: “Bipp” (2013)
40. Frank Ocean: “Nights” (2016)
41. Courtney Barnett: “Avant Gardener” (2013)
42. SZA: “The Weekend” (2017)
43. Lorde: “The Louvre” (2017)
44. Big Thief: “Mary” (2017)
45. Robyn: “Call Your Girlfriend” (2010)
46. The Knife: “Full of Fire” (2013)
47. Tame Impala: “Let It Happen” (2015)
48. Ariana Grande: “thank u, next” (2018)
49. Gyptian: “Hold Yuh” (2010)
50. Arcade Fire: “Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)” (2010)
51. Kendrick Lamar: “Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe” (2012)
52. Camp Cope: “The Opener” (2017)
53. Solange: “Losing You” (2012)
54. Disclosure: “Latch” [ft. Sam Smith] (2012)
55. Bat for Lashes: “Laura” (2012)
56. Vince Staples: “Norf Norf” (2015)
57. Taylor Swift: “All Too Well” (2012)
58. Miguel: “Adorn” (2012)
59. David Bowie: “Blackstar” (2015)
60. Future: “March Madness” (2015)
61. EMA: “California” (2011)
62. Rihanna: “We Found Love” [ft. Calvin Harris] (2011)
63. Bobby Shmurda: “Hot Nigga” (2014)
64. Phoebe Bridgers: “Motion Sickness” (2017)
65. Drake: “Worst Behavior” (2013)
66. King Krule: “Out Getting Ribs” (2010)
67. Kacey Musgraves: “Slow Burn” (2018)
68. FKA twigs: “Two Weeks” (2014)
69. Caribou: “Can’t Do Without You” (2014)
70. Beach House: “Zebra” (2010)
71. Adele: “Someone Like You” (2011)
72. Tyler, the Creator: “Yonkers” (2011)
73. Perfume Genius: “Queen” (2014)
74. Jack Ü: “Where Are Ü Now” [ft. Justin Bieber] (2015)
75. DJ Koze: “Pick Up” (2018)
76. The National: “Bloodbuzz Ohio” (2010)
77. Kanye West: “Ultralight Beam” (2016)
78. Jeremih: “Oui” (2015)
79. Lana Del Rey: “The greatest” (2019)
80. Blood Orange: “You’re Not Good Enough” (2013)
81. Cass McCombs: “County Line” (2011)
82. Dej Loaf: “Try Me” (2014)
83. Deerhunter: “Desire Lines” (2010)
84. Kelela: “Bank Head” (2013)
85. Charli XCX: “Track 10” (2017)
86. Destroyer: “Chinatown” (2011)
87. Rich Gang: “Lifestyle” (2014)
88. Japandroids: “Younger Us” (2010)
89. Frank Ocean: “Pyramids” (2012)
90. Blawan: “Why They Hide Their Bodies Under My Garage?” (2012)
91. Haim: “The Wire” (2013)
92. Meek Mill: “Dreams and Nightmares (Intro)” (2012)
93. Radiohead: “True Love Waits” (2016)
94. Hurray for the Riff Raff: “Pa’lante” (2017)
95. Rihanna: “Bitch Better Have My Money” (2015)
96. Thundercat: “Them Changes” (2015)
97. Snail Mail: “Pristine” (2018)
98. D’Angelo / The Vanguard: “Really Love” (2014)
99. Mac DeMarco: “Ode to Viceroy” (2012)
100. Jamie xx: “I Know There’s Gonna Be (Good Times)” [ft. Young Thug and Popcaan] (2015)
101. TNGHT: “Higher Ground” (2012)
102. Katy Perry: “Teenage Dream” (2010)
103. Erykah Badu: “Hello” [ft. André 3000] (2015)
104. Amen Dunes: “Miki Dora” (2018)
105. Kendrick Lamar: “DNA.” (2017)
106. Christine and the Queens: “Tilted” (2015)
107. Fetty Wap: “Trap Queen” (2014)
108. Girlpool: “Before the World Was Big” (2015)
109. Drake: “Nice for What” (2018)
110. Chairlift: “I Belong in Your Arms” (2012)
111. A$AP Ferg: “Shabba” [ft. A$AP Rocky] (2013)
112. Paramore: “Ain’t It Fun” (2013)
113. Jenny Hval: “Conceptual Romance” (2016)
114. Daft Punk: “Get Lucky” [ft. Pharrell] (2013)
115. The Weeknd: “The Morning” (2011)
116. Burial: “Kindred” (2012)
117. Usher: “Climax” (2012)
118. Travis Scott: “Sicko Mode” [ft. Drake] (2018)
119. Fleet Foxes: “Helplessness Blues” (2011)
120. Justin Bieber: “Sorry” (2015)
121. DJ Rashad: “Feelin” [ft. Spinn and Taso] (2013)
122. Playboi Carti: “Magnolia” (2017)
123. Clairo: “Bags” (2019)
124. Nicki Minaj: “Super Bass” (2010)
125. Lykke Li: “I Follow Rivers” (2011)
126. Ciara: “Ride” [ft. Ludacris] (2010)
127. James Blake: “CMYK” (2010)
128. Young Thug: “Danny Glover” (2013)
129. Lorde: “Royals” (2013)
130. A$AP Rocky: “Peso” (2011)
131. Chromatics: “Kill for Love” (2012)
132. Kurt Vile: “Baby’s Arms” (2011)
133. Future: “Mask Off” (2017)
134. Kamasi Washington: “Truth” (2017)
135. Robyn: “Honey” (2018)
136. CupcakKe: “Duck Duck Goose” (2018)
137. Yaeji: “Drink I’m Sippin On” (2017)
138. Drake: “Hotline Bling” (2015)
139. Iceage: “The Lord’s Favorite” (2014)
140. Rae Sremmurd: “No Type” (2014)
141. Gil Scott-Heron: “New York Is Killing Me” (2010)
142. Rihanna: “Needed Me” (2016)
143. Rick Ross: “B.M.F. (Blowin’ Money Fast)” [ft. Styles P] (2010)
144. Spoon: “Inside Out” (2014)
145. Charli XCX: “Gone” [ft. Christine and the Queens] (2019)
146. Gunna: “Sold Out Dates” [ft. Lil Baby] (2018)
147. Ella Mai: “Boo’d Up” (2018)
148. GoldLink: “Crew” [ft. Brent Faiyaz and Shy Glizzy] (2017)
149. Björk: “Stonemilker” (2015)
150. Nicki Minaj: “Beez in the Trap” [ft. 2 Chainz] (2012)
151. Gang Gang Dance: “Glass Jar” (2011)
152. Miley Cyrus: “Wrecking Ball” (2013)
153. Danny Brown: “30” (2011)
154. Japanese Breakfast: “Everybody Wants to Love You” (2016)
155. Kanye West: “Blood on the Leaves” (2013)
156. Girl Unit: “Wut” (2010)
157. Beyoncé: “1+1” (2011)
158. Waka Flocka Flame: “Hard in da Paint” (2010)
159. Katy B: “Katy on a Mission” (2010)
160. Odd Future: “Oldie” (2012)
161. Vybz Kartel: “Clarks” [ft. Popcaan and Gaza Slim] (2010)
162. Chance the Rapper: “No Problem” [ft. 2 Chainz and Lil Wayne] (2016)
163. Davido: “Fall” (2017)
164. Andrés: “New for U” (2012)
165. Jessica Pratt: “Back, Baby” (2014)
166. Bad Bunny: “Caro” (2018)
167. Tinashe: “2 On” [ft. Schoolboy Q] (2014)
168. King Krule: “Dum Surfer” (2017)
169. St. Vincent: “New York” (2017)
170. Lil Peep: “Kiss” (2016)
171. Adele: “Rolling in the Deep” (2011)
172. Sleep: “Marijuanaut’s Theme” (2018)
173. DJ Khaled: “I’m on One” [ft. Drake, Rick Ross, and Lil Wayne] (2011)
174. Florence and the Machine: “Shake It Out” (2011)
175. Nicki Minaj: “Come on a Cone” (2012)
176. Sampha: “(No One Knows Me) Like the Piano” (2017)
177. A Tribe Called Quest: “The Space Program” (2016)
178. The 1975: “The Sound” (2016)
179. Rich Kidz: “My Life” [ft. Waka Flocka Flame] (2012)
180. Sons of Kemet: “My Queen Is Harriet Tubman” (2018)
181. Migos: “Bad and Boujee” [ft. Lil Uzi Vert] (2016)
182. Beyoncé: “XO” (2013)
183. Young M.A: “OOOUUU” (2016)
184. Frank Ocean: “Chanel” (2017)
185. Sharon Van Etten: “Seventeen” (2019)
186. Skepta: “Shutdown” (2015)
187. Thom Yorke: “Dawn Chorus” (2019)
188. Future: “Incredible” (2017)
189. J Balvin / Willy William: “Mi Gente (Remix)” [ft. Beyoncé] (2017)
190. Ty Dolla $ign: “Paranoid” [ft. B.o.B] (2013)
191. Rico Nasty: “Smack a Bitch” (2018)
192. Tame Impala: “Feels Like We Only Go Backwards” (2012)
193. Nilüfer Yanya: “Baby Luv” (2017)
194. Lil B: “Wonton Soup” (2010)
195. Cloud Nothings: “I’m Not Part of Me” (2014)
196. John Maus: “Believer” (2011)
197. Icona Pop: “I Love It” [ft. Charli XCX] (2012)
198. dvsn: “The Line” (2016)
199. Stormzy: “Big for Your Boots” (2017)
200. Avicii: “Levels” (2011)

a little weird that "Chinatown" is the choice from Kaputt

I'd have guessed that a Bill Callahan song was a long shot to even make the tracks list, I don't think anyone would've predicted a track of his at #11. Good tune, but someone's clearly used their trump card there.

lol and here i was still waiting for the email for this. lmao @ my career

Pretty cool that Paramore made it. Way too little rock, in general though. Sleater-Kinney didn't even make it for fucks sake and I was pretty sure they were Pitchfork-approved.

I admire anyone who can read this entire list without having their eyes gaze over

a little weird that "Chinatown" is the choice from Kaputt

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, October 7, 2019 8:30 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Wasn't it the single? Or at least the track released in advance of the album?

Glad to see the freelancer's anthem Bitch Better Have My Money in the top 100. Wrong Beyonce and Frank Ocean in the top 10 tho. Also Hannah Hunt instead of Step seems odd