pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Oh no, what did Trey do?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:42 (four years ago) link

Phishing scam :(

tylerw, Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link

lol

#YABASIC (morrisp), Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

Can't say I was expecting today's retrospective review.

pomenitul, Sunday, 22 September 2019 11:58 (four years ago) link

I think we're still allowed to like Darkthrone because Fenriz had no involvement in the killings and stuff. Also:

Fenriz eventually apologized and disowned his behavior both in his words and his actions throughout the 2000s...In the liner notes of a career retrospective box set Black Death and Beyond, he acknowledged his regret over the language he used in the ’90s. 'There is no excuse,' he wrote."

so, cult of personality (everyone loves Fenriz, bm's most lovable and charismatic goofball) + repentance for problematic opinions = retrospective review. You certainly won't be seeing any retrospective Burzum reviews on Pfork anytime soon, despite the fact that Burzum's early records are better and more historically significant than this particular Darkthrone album

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 22 September 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

I don't know, I could see a Burzum review. Though probably not with the link that says 'click here to buy, pitchfork might earn a commission'.

Frederik B, Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

the darkthrone trilogy is as historically significant as burzum come on

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

considerably more so imo

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

i totally agree

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

The Burzum album is goofy as shit also

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

so what's gonna win album of the decade

flappy bird, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

kanyiohead

imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

greta van fleet foxes

#YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 23 September 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

to pimp a sufjan

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

doesn't feel a stretch to say that tpab will be the only great* album in their inevitable top ten, unless damn also makes it lol

*according to me

imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

Has this Perry Farrell video been on the homepage since July?

https://pitchfork.com/tv/22-over-under/watch-perry-farrell-rate-face-tattoos-hedonism-and-touring-in-a-van/

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

would be shocked if Visions isn't in the top 5

flappy bird, Monday, 23 September 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

Given how people's perceptions of Kanye get better in periods when he keeps out of the spotlight (i.e. keeps his mouth shut), I'm guessing MBDTF could still take this

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

xxp oh no, don't tell me perry is a nine trey blood as well

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

been caught crippin'

Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

no way, #1 is definitely going to a political album

flappy bird, Monday, 23 September 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

TPAButterfly?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link

or am i in the wrong decade, lol i have no idea why i bookmark this thread as i never read pitchfork

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

TPAB for sure, Lemonade also

flappy bird, Monday, 23 September 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

I doubt that.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 September 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

Seems like Lemonade's stock is falling, at least as an album. Read a couple recent things about people saying that it really doesn't hold up well outside of its timeframe and without the visual element, I don't think that will place nearly as highly as it may once have.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

Calling Have One On Me for top 10

J. Sam, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

where does Emotion land?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

#79

J. Sam, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

I'd guess:

1 TPAB
2 Lemonade
3 Blonde
4 Have One On Me
5 Lana Del Rey
6 Sufjan
7 Jai Paul
8 Kanye
9 King Krule
10 Vampire Weekend

11-20 Big Thief, Solange, DAMN, Bon Iver, Mitski, Beach House, D'Angelo, Robyn, The Suburbs, Danny Brown, RTJ. I don't think Visions will make top 20. I also don't know what I'm typing about or why I'm thinking about this.

fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

Seems like Lemonade's stock is falling, at least as an album. Read a couple recent things about people saying that it really doesn't hold up well outside of its timeframe and without the visual element, I don't think that will place nearly as highly as it may once have.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, September 23, 2019 3:22 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah I think is is correct. what about the Solange album? what is the top ranking album by a woman going to be?

flappy bird, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

Lemonade will definitely be top 10 and I'd be very surprised if it's not top 5.

FGTI's list looks pretty good though I think that's definitely too high for King Krule, I would expect to see something like Solange or Tame Impala outrank him.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

wow, forgot about Blonde- yeah, that'll definitely be up there. idk about Sufjan (didn't Mt. Eerie one-up him with his grief albums?), and while I love HOOM and think it'll place, I can't see it being in the top 10, it's been too long and while JN is still beloved I'm not sure HOOM is the same.

no way Visions doesn't make the top 10, arguably the most influential album of the decade

twisted fantasy or yeezus in the top 10? should be the latter

flappy bird, Monday, 23 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

Oh damn Fiona Apple will be up there too, duh. Insofar as "political" goes I don't think well-regarded albums by Ariel Pink, Sun Kill Moon or Swans will make top 20. Insofar as "their stock has fallen" I don't think LCD, Destroyer or Tame Impala will make top 20.

I ranked King Krule so highly mostly because it's... probably my favourite widely-celebrated album of the past ten years, certainly my most-listened to. It's so great!

I think Lemonade will be the highest-rated album made by a female musician, if not, then Lana. I think they ranked Solange higher that year as a mild controp

I don't think Visions will make top 10 and possibly even top 20-- it doesn't hold together as an album-- but "Oblivion" will be top 5 tracks

fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

I am interested (as interested as I can be about this shit, at least) to see where all the 2010 albums place-- Beach House, Contra, HOOM, The Suburbs, Kanye, etc. I myself forget that they came out this decade it all seems so long ago.

I have thoughts about Mt. Eerie, that the album's back-story obliterated anybody's capacity to approach it with any criticality when it dropped; Sufjan's grief album is unquestionably ""superior"" insofar as lists and rankings go-- really revelling in the particularly ghoulish nature of this exercise at this exact moment, lists are so dumb

If there was going to be a surprise ""outsider"" album in the top 20 (like Grouper, i.e.) my vote would be for the Under The Skin OST. If we're talking "what was the most influential recording of the past ten years" it'd be that.

fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 23 September 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

holds up well!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 September 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

Agreed w/ most of it fgti, but I do think Destroyer will make the top 20. Under the Skin should make it, too, but we should be so lucky...

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

i think art angels will place above visions

Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Monday, 23 September 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

if I wasn't an idiot I'd have gamed my ballot and voted Mitski, which was just outside my 10 as it stoke

imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

stood

imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

Did u vote 4 Jute Gyte tho

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

If yes: Was it for Perdurance

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

yes and yes

denied voting in their shitty tracks poll by the page unaccountably refreshing while i was compiling a ballot. now nobody will have given oranssi pazuzu and arch garrison top and second billing respectively. THERES NO JUSTICE

imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

let it be known that i would have thrown Akrakabo right up there too

imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

Good man :)

I much prefer voting in your own poll tbh, and am of the opinion that a '10s poll is too soon to call, in September 2019.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Based on the way predictions have been worded in this thread I almost forgot this was a readers poll. I started reading posts like "Yeah, they'll totally pull that move again this time won't they"

Evan, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

yeah obviously it's too soon. fuck pitchfork always

imago, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

reader's poll is why I'd imagine Beach House has a better shot at top 10 than Lemonade

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 September 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link


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