eh, releases that came out in 1999, esp late the year, are totally valid as 00s songs if that's when people were discovering them
i nominated filter's "take a picture", a 1999 release that broke at rock radio in november of that year. but i didn't hear it until it started picking up steam at top 40 stations, which was like 3-4 months later. i wouldn't fault anyone for considering it either a 90s tune or a 00s one. people are inevitably going to think to some extent about whether a song is actually 'from' the 2000s when they consider whether they should vote for it
― dyl, Sunday, 15 September 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link
so i don't think it would be some big injustice if a track that technically came out in 1999 slipped into the results
― dyl, Sunday, 15 September 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
There’s gotta be a cutoff, may as well make it strictly by release date.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
decade of impact rule
― Mordy, Sunday, 15 September 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link
Half the releases in this thread had almost no “impact” at all
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Sunday, 15 September 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link
Even judging by year of impact, "My Life Muzik" was an underground hit in 1999 and appeared on several different multi-artist compilations that year, so no way does it count as a 2000 track.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 15 September 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
(It’s not my poll, of course — just seems weird to say that a chart-performing release gets to slide into consideration for the following year, if that’s when it has the fortune to “pick up steam” culturally.)
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Sunday, 15 September 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link
Dooms Night (Timo Maas Remix) was released in Germany in 1999, but was only a hit in the UK in 2000, honestly not sure on that one.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 15 September 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link
The same with Darude's "Sandstorm" (which I don't think was nominated?): it was released here in Finland in late 1999 and was played a lot in clubs already that year, but it didn't become a global hit until 2000.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 15 September 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link
I'm wondering where the "decade of impact" rule will put my nominations of Lady Gaga/Beyonce's "Telephone" (released on an EP at the end of 2009, but not released as a single until early 2010) and Young Money's "Roger That" (included on a 2009 compilation before being released as a single in 2010). I'm still going to vote for them, but I totally get why they might be thought of as belonging more to the current decade than the previous one.
― Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Sunday, 15 September 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link
i believe "decade/year of impact" pretty much means "if there's an edge case like that, it's eligible" so i don't think there's a problem with either of them
― ufo, Sunday, 15 September 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link
i feel like not having hard cut-off will generate more work on what’s already going to be an epic poll.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link
If we're going by decade of impact, "Don't Stop Believin'" should def be nominated.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:39 (five years ago) link
Wouldn’t the tracks cited above be “edge cases” only if this were a 2010s poll? If they were released officially in some form in 2009, I would think they qualify here.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:47 (five years ago) link
number one track of the 10s = africa? xp
― Mordy, Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link
OTM
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:51 (five years ago) link
Either Africa or Bohemian Rhapsody.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 15 September 2019 23:04 (five years ago) link
Yeah hard to argue against including the 2009 tracks. But I mean, "Better Off Alone" is a 1998 track, even if its parent album was only released in 2000. Easiest solution is just leave it up to voters I think
― Vinnie, Monday, 16 September 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link
a few big omissions from the 00s Dance tracks poll results
Green Velvet - La La Land
Thought I nominated that but perhaps I forgot
― groovypanda, Monday, 16 September 2019 09:14 (five years ago) link
I still have 20 nods left, go ahead and throw one of them to that
TRACKS
(31/50)
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 16 September 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link
nominations be closed.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 16 September 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
Oh well
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 16 September 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link
Crap, I missed this, and my no. song wasn't even nominated :(
― daavid, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link
No. 1?
Ok, anyone is allowed to nominate their no. 1 song if it's missing. However, if their ballot later shows up without that song at no. 1 their ballot will be discounted! Isn't power fun
― imago, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link
There is *no way* you will check all ballots on that but <3 :D
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link
Too funny
― Bee OK, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link
how many ballots could possibly ask to nom their #1 vote after the deadline tho? he could easily check the 1-2
― Mordy, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link
I only need to check ballots who nominate a #1 from this point onward! Exactly
― imago, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link
damn we forgot to nominate "duffle bag boy" didn't we
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link
are we supposed to be campaigning in this thread?
― Mordy, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
jewlia eisenberg (of charming hostess)'s trilectic is a vocally inventive playful post-meredith monk album that uses cantorial traditions, eskimo throat singing, doo wop, ethiopian jewish traditions and more as settings for text excerpted from letters exchanged between walter benjamin, asja lacis, and gershom sholem (+ other texts). it came out on zorn's tzadik label under the radical jewish culture imprint. it was tremendously important to me when it came out in 2001 and i was still a rabbinic student in yeshiva, bc it was so unlike anything else i had heard (both musically + in that nexus of theological/political thought) but over the years its uniqueness has only grown to me. it sounds like very few other things (and most of the things it does sound like are also in the tzadik catalog and are influenced imo by eisenberg's work -- i'll write a recommendation about mayim rabim at a later point unless sund4r wants to??) but it's extremely listenable and memorable for an avant/experimental vocal work. it has hooky moments and gorgeous melodic moments. it also has a song ("Dream of Me") based on Susan Buck-Morss's The Dialectics of Seeing about Asja's frustrations with Benjamin that includes the line, "I dreamt you fucked me like John Reed, and I'm a good red - I pushed back and begged for more / I dreamed the vanguard of the left she came so hard she had to scream." it's a v weird + strange alternate dimension of an album both in choice of subject material (communist love songs) + sonic palette. i really think ppl should seek out the whole thing bc the style + tones shift wildly over the course of the album but i'll include a couple youtube links bc i'm not sure where you can actually stream the whole thing. i could probably write a million more things about this album but i'll just say that i always thought it was the kind of thing i'd think [some] ilmers would be into and i'm not sure why it never happened [yet, utopian longing v much themely].
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4n2LVyMy1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb2leR5i8Hw
those are the only two i can find on youtube. also i dropboxed one of my favorite tracks that i cannot find on youtube here
― Mordy, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
Here are some of my nominations that aren't on spotify (or maybe just not on canada spotify?) that i wanna highlight/campaign for
1. ZAZEN BOYS - WEEKENDI literally think about this song almost every 7 days. Weird mathy Japanese band goes FUNKY and screams about the WEEKEND. Also the video rules. everyone should be as obsessed with this as i am.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ZjYq8-SHw
2. STONED GREEN APPLES - SUGAR K (YURA YURA TEIKOKU REMIX)Why this hasn't played at every good party I've ever been to is a stupid mystery. doesn't really sound like the original, doesn't reaaally sound like a lot of yura yura teikoku, but goddamn is it goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1epHwAQTVc
― I'm a board man. Board man gets paid (Will M.), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link
y'all voting for this one, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6T3I_Zskfs
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 08:17 (five years ago) link
yes
― octobeard, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 09:31 (five years ago) link
Or here
NOUGHTIES/NOWTS/00s POLL CAMPAIGNING SIDE-THREAD: Youtube, Bandcamp & other links to YOUR nominations that AREN'T ON SPOTIFY
― nashwan, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:09 (five years ago) link
Spotfiy is still banned by the local mystics here since they formed an alliance with the Asda Boys, their grip is tightening so I have no idea what has made it out there
― saer, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link
man i really need to give zazen boys a proper listen someday, "weekend" rules
― ufo, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:25 (five years ago) link
No. 1?Ok, anyone is allowed to nominate their no. 1 song if it's missing. However, if their ballot later shows up without that song at no. 1 their ballot will be discounted! Isn't power fun― imago, Monday, September 16, 2019 9:20 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Monday, September 16, 2019 9:20 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Thanks, imago!
Here we go!
Alexis Strum - Nothing Good About This Goodbye
― daavid, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 10:54 (five years ago) link
:)
on I plunge playlisting
The Chemical Brothers - Surrender has been officially thrown out of this poll for being released in the middle of 1999, sorry ledge
― imago, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 12:04 (five years ago) link
noticed we all failed to nominate merzbeat, or indeed any merzbow. what has become of us? only my colossal respect for imago stops me from voting for it anyway
― ogmor, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
There is now an Albums master list!
Tracks to follow.
If I've made any errors, let me know and I'll correct...
― imago, Thursday, 19 September 2019 11:16 (five years ago) link
The Chemical Brothers - Surrender has been officially thrown out of this poll for being released in the middle of 1999, sorry ledgei was going purely on my shoddy antiquated mp3 tags, apologies for wasting your valuable time.
― The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 19 September 2019 11:23 (five years ago) link
Right now I've been playing the fun game of going through the tracks playlist on shuffle and trying to pinpoint what year a song I don't recognize is from without looking at any track or artist information.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:31 (five years ago) link
xxp thanks! only 1,661 album noms, I can do this.
― sleeve, Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link
looks like you've got Dam-Funk's Toeachizown on there twice
― a wagging to the furious (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link
A couple more dupes:
Desaparecidos - Read Music/Speak SpanishAbe Vigoda - Kid CityElliot(t) Smith - From a Basement on the HillMelt-Banana - Cell-ScapeMove D / Namlook - XII: Space & TimeSaint Etienne - Tales from Turnpike House / Up the Wooden HillsSpoon - TransferenceThe Advisory Circle - Other ChannelsTV on the Radio - Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link
Oh, and Mastodon - Leviathan
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link
Transference turned out to be ineligible.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link
Has a voting deadline been set yet?
― jmm, Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link
Daamn no-one nominated Daft Punk's Human After All (not that I'd vote for it)
It was pointed out already but Fripp & Eno's 'Evening Star' is presumably ineligible? It was merely remastered in 2008 afaik
― nashwan, Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link