Absolutely otm if the example of my elder daughter is typical. Although I listened to Martinez with a mental eye-roll whereas it was instantly clear Billie was in a different league.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
My elder daughter confirms that Billie absorbed Martinez's fans after some sort of scandal? But that Billie does it better.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
haha, I appreciate the front line reporting from both of you. it looks like Billie namechecked Melanie Martinez shortly after the release of her EP (and a couple of months before Melanie was accused of raping a former friend), but even then she felt the need to disclaim that she didn't really listen to a lot of Melanie's music. she's right about 'Soap' being a good song, but I'm glad she never fully embraced the "Bop It is a metaphor for our sex life" school of songwriting, and there's very little of that on her album
― hoostanbank de reason lyrics mp4 hd video download (unregistered), Saturday, 7 September 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link
i think the tomboying of martinez’s aesthetic (which when i saw her was very “nine year old left flat after her birthday party”) is a factor here too. the big mr yuk green sweatshirts and baggy shorts are much more accessible and appealing as an emulatabke look
― maura, Sunday, 8 September 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
Aaaah she was the one I was thinking about when trying to find the closest relative to Billie Eilish’s sound and completely blanked. Had no idea she was that popular it’s been a while since I heard anything about her. I wont be watching that k-12 video because it’s too long for me as I’m not a big fan of her so it’s not particularly directed to my interests but I feel glad that an hour and a half musical video is faring rather well in views. It’s an interesting way to deliver a conceptual album and hope it inspires other artists to present ambitious multimedia projects like this one. Last year it was Whack World. But we need more musical movies out there.
Having someone like say Janelle Monae or FKa Twigs or Grimes or Beyonce, hell even Billie Eilish do a multimedia album like this would be interesting.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
uh Whack World is a god tier video album - the Martinez one is embarrassingly awful.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
Her SNL performances were good, I thought (at least by the standard of SNL performances)
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 30 September 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
the rotating room set for Bad Guy was pretty darned cool
― alpine static, Monday, 30 September 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
Agreed
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 30 September 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link
I don't like this at all.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
i think i like this more than anything on the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCTMq7xvdXU
― monotony, Thursday, 14 November 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link
Yeah that’s really nice.
― paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link
Very nice indeed, ended up playing it a couple times in a row. Could easily envision a great Koze-style remix, too.
― Simon H., Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
good drag name: billy eyelash
that's all
― cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link
pleasantly surprised by how lovely this is
― ufo, Thursday, 14 November 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link
Tricky Eyelash is even better
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZyybvVx-js
new video for one of my favorite songs of the year
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 December 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
cw if you don't enjoy watching people getting burned by cigarettes
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 December 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
lol whatever snowflake!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― j., Thursday, 5 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
my niece who turns 13 next week is a superfan (seeing her in Boston and NY next year), i was fed videos at Thanksgiving
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 December 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
I was fed turkey
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 5 December 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
turkey w/ Eilish vids as a side
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 December 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
"everything i wanted" is so nice to listen to at this time of year
― dyl, Monday, 9 December 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
Xanny def my fave song on the record.
There's something vaguely Roxy Music-ish (Stranded era or so) about it, but I can't be bothered to pinpoint exactly why. Ferry could probably do a decent cover?
― mr.raffles, Monday, 9 December 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link
i am liking what i have heard from billie.get a lot more CREEP vibe than LDR, but i think we can be pretty certain billie has never heard CREEP.
― mark e, Monday, 9 December 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
Are u still accepting late arrivals on the Billie Eyelash train? I tried listening to her last year & barely finished Bad Guy before I was like NOPE SUCKS IDG THIS MUSIC etc. The quiet breathy INTENSE way of singing that sounds like your back teeth are clenched is not my fave & i thought this was that (but clearly isnt) Then I saw her on the Grammys last night & was so mesmerized by her performance & (many) acceptance speeches that i was like, fuckit, she seems really cool: imma give this kid another try. Aaanyway: Having now *listened* to the album all the way through, I love it and 15 year old me is crawling out of her corner to love this too. She really harnesses the ugly/awkward/painful internal suck of being a teenager but not in a way that alienates; i don’t know how or if it’s just me but it feels much more self-conscious & confessional than an agressive, isolating declaration. I think that’s the real joy of digging into her music is that, forgive my teen metaphor but, I picture Billie’s world of this album as something more like a sleepover for the ppl who dont get invited to sleepovers & where what you reveal during the RIL DARK truth or dare doesnt repel or repulse but brings ppl closer
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 01:18 (four years ago) link
great post VG
― Dan S, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link
I picture Billie’s world of this album as something more like a sleepover for the ppl who dont get invited to sleepovers & where what you reveal during the RIL DARK truth or dare doesnt repel or repulse but brings ppl closer
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 01:45 (four years ago) link
when will the Bond theme leak?? supposedly it's completed (well, composed)
― I wanna publish memes and rage against machimes (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 01:54 (four years ago) link
vg otm
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 02:31 (four years ago) link
this album and billie rule imo
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 January 2020 03:57 (four years ago) link
otm
― omar little, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:06 (four years ago) link
Yes to all of that. I have to listen to the record in private though because my stepkid loves her so much and she won’t think it’s cool if her parents are listening to it too haha.
― Roz, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 05:25 (four years ago) link
Am I the only one who thinks Eilish sounds a lot like the singer from Superorganism? Nifty record, but "wish you were gay" is a terrible song. Like, damn why is that on the album - oh wait it was a single?! Yikes.
Kinda surprised at the strong opinions in this thread. The record is okay, definitely a "right place right time" record, but damn. Mostly though, reading this thread is an interesting exercise in watching people feel self consciously old.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link
it may feel that way but it can’t be, I’m too old to exercise
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
(also I continue to like this record a lot and think it is genuinely striking, despite all the ambient Discourse insinuation that I am a mark and/or a corporate shill for doing so; at this point I honestly prefer the days when people would call me a dumb bimbo for liking pop music, rather than just implying I am one and also accusing me of false consciousness)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
I like it too and I'm pretty resistant to the stuff. Did anyone call you a shill on ILM?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
It's a likeable record. There's a lot of formulaic elements to it, which is why I presume it is getting criticism, but a bit surprised at the vitriol. Some strong words for a record that feels harmless and trendy and has more than a few good songs on it.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link
no, hence why I said “ambient Discourse” (which is very heavy in the air after she won all the grammys, though the “she’s a streaming plant you fools, shun the music of no value” takes crop up every so often)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
Ah, I see. Yeah, the rest of the internet is rife with such takes.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
Having watched my kids engage with her rise over the last 18 months, I think it's quite clearly driven by Billie's intelligence and ability to connect very directly with her fans through the right media, alongside genuine and self-developed talent. I've seen many interviews / performances etc as part of sharing their interest, and she is unfailingly what she appears to be - a wry, witty, warm-hearted person who comes across as extremely grounded. I have nothing but admiration for the way she's built her success on her own terms - notably, since I have two daughters and I'm sufficiently old-fashioned, by resisting sexualisation as a marketing tool. Of course she's very good looking but her image and dress are about self expression rather than the male gaze, and that resonates VERY strongly with my kids. I could do without the Gucci/Vuitton/McCartney labelling but it's better than Juul I guess, and a nod to hip-hop culture which is a strong influence.Of course this may well be a naïve take, but I was interested to read about the strategy employed by her managers which seems to be to amplify and enable the decisions made by Billie and Finneas - I'm sure having parents in that world was a headstart, too.https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/behind-billie-eilish-meet-the-managers-guiding-the-artists-global-success/
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
I am also late to this but I like it.
― kinder, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
I have no idea who these weirdos are who are trolling you, K, but wtf!everyone in my life has enjoyed this record or has come around to liking some songs
― babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:36 (four years ago) link
oh, to clarify, nobody is trolling me personally, but there are plenty of takes (again, uptick since she won the grammys) like "billie eilish is a corporate/industry/spotify plant and everyone promoting her has been duped"
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:53 (four years ago) link
god save us from the fucking smarks
― you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
I’d just shrug that off in the end, because you have to believe that music is promotable product and people don’t care about genuinely relating to music — in which case you are judging people as much as corporation — or you think it’s all pumped up metrics and you shouldn’t be caring about any industry acclaim. Worst case is people think critics are dupes, and they can alway just not listen to critics
― babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:59 (four years ago) link
I mean one of my favorite artists is kate bush but it is also true that she may not have become kate bush had emi and david gilmour not invested shitloads of money at her as a teenager
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link
I did a poll of my friends and family via messaging a bit ago and they’re all positive or ambivalent because the one crappy clearchannel station only played bad guy
― babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link
tbh we should all have invested in kate bush
― babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link
Who cares what dumb wags on Twitter or wherever think, anyway? Serious q
― dad genes (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link