TOOL - C/D!?

It's doing a damn fine job as background music between getting work done and procrastinating on ILX.

Oh, I agree, weirdly. I got some work done with it in the background yesterday too!

A tempest. Must. Be. Just. That.

Ok, MJK.

the deluxe package with the booklet and the kinda 3D LCD screen is completely crazy over the top, of course, but also great.

Okay, 7empest is good. Some actual drama on this album!

adam jones was interviewed on chris jericho's podcast and damn if he didn't come off as a sweetheart.

Why is the longest track the least sloggy?

they're supporting Killing Joke on their US tour!

https://i.redd.it/tbq532rdgkj31.jpg

Two Toronto dates instead of a Toronto/Montreal split. Sad!

Adam and Danny both sound so good on Tempest. I'm liking this track a lot.

i like drums

Jaz and MJK would have the worst conversations, praying for their bandmates

the drums sound great but what's up with the super squeezed compressed guitars? too much frequency range taken up by that 100 piece drumkit? I still haven't listened to more than two songs

would describe this record as 'satisfyingly dull'

7empest just began let's see

none of this is anything Meshuggah haven't done way better obv

I listened to an interview with Danny Carey on the Trap Set, it was entertaining enough, but he seemed really stuck on this idea that no one can fuck with them because of the sheer time & rigor they spent on these tunes, four hours a day for 5+ years or whatever. Which is admirable if you can afford to do so, but doesn't necessarily guarantee anything.

(haven't listened to it btw)

Satisfying dull is a good description. Conservative prog.

none of this is anything Meshuggah haven't done way better obv

― imago, Friday, August 30, 2019 1:31 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have yet to have my "Meshuggah moment" because I can't handle the vocals. But I should give 'em another try.

I'm not sure Meshuggah is a remotely comparable band.

this is comfort food. not mad at it. if you like and want tool then here you go. the drums sound good loud, might be enough for me to stay on board.

I'm not sure Meshuggah is a remotely comparable band.

They tried pretty hard to be Tool on obZen.

I'd be a terrible reviewer, I only know it can take months or longer for an album like this to suddenly click for me - if it ever does (but it's Tool, so it's probably gonna)

I listened to an interview with Danny Carey on the Trap Set, it was entertaining enough, but he seemed really stuck on this idea that no one can fuck with them because of the sheer time & rigor they spent on these tunes, four hours a day for 5+ years or whatever. Which is admirable if you can afford to do so, but doesn't necessarily guarantee anything.

on the contrary I don't know if I've ever really loved an album that's been workshopped that much

For sure. He did talk about a drum solo and a guitar solo/jam section on the album that were unplanned, curious to hear those moments.

Descending: "to be or not to be" + Tempest: are we supposed to look for Shakespeare references or are those the only two?

Excellent album. "Pneuma" is an early favourite.

still early days but I'd say the download is better than the CD - not because the interludes are that good but because they break it up a little bit.

pomenitul at 3:28 30 aug. 19

A tempest. Must. Be. Just. That.

Ok, MJK.

Ok I listened to the Cobham-esque track that's a drum solo over a modular synth pattern and I liked it

some sick drumming on this record

there's so much silence

Did you press play

just finished listening all the way through for the first time, Simon is otm about the interludes, definitely some good chooglin' in here, and some sick drumming for sure. good background music for reading

xp I was just typing "is the shiny side of the cd on the top?" but you were faster :-)

Listening to the Trap set episode with Carey, I thought he'd be a little more erudite, he sounds like some 70s burnout guy, with endless repetition of 'maaaan', 'dude' and 'fuckin...' was jarring to listen to.

7empest reminds me of Muse a bit

...until Adam Jones takes us on a ten-minute tour of The Guitar

photo of Mackie (art director for this album) by Buzz (who also had a hand in introducing Joe Barresi to Tool) : https://www.instagram.com/p/B1z9iruHWVn/

I really love the record and feel that "7empest" might be the quintessential Tool song.

this album is pretty tight

“pneuma” initially feels recycled and then unfolds really wonderfully. synth solo section + the actual guitar solo at the end are both pretty sick

best interludes of any tool album for sure

whole thing kinda feels like 10,000 days but even more sedated and meditative and minus all the goofy shit

Listening to the Trap set episode with Carey, I thought he'd be a little more erudite, he sounds like some 70s burnout guy, with endless repetition of 'maaaan', 'dude' and 'fuckin...' was jarring to listen to.

pneuma has a really sick syncopated something going on

this is the random access memories of stoner rock

this is sold out everywhere, hoping i'll be able to snag a copy at some point

After a couple listens I don’t feel like any of these songs are staying with me. I don’t dislike anything I’ve heard - but I couldn’t tell you how any of them goes after the fact.

^ sums up most Tool for me

The vocal melodies & lyrics are more forgettable than their previous albums. Most of the songs would have been improved a lot if Maynard shot for some hookiness (also known as Radiohead syndrome). A few of these have really memorable guitar hooks tho, especially 7empest.

Quite like the album, but there are some things that stand out:

it feels less concept-driven than previously albums on first two listens, but I can't tell if it's because I'm missing something or if it's just not there. I'm trying to meet the album where it is, and I think that means losing myself to the journey from song to song, rather than waiting for moments that are explicitly emotionally arresting.

Danny is unbelievable, feels somewhat like he's carrying the team.

a buddy pointed out to me that Maynarde is just absent at a lot of the climax moments on the album, which has been a mainstay of Tool--and that struck me as a thoughtful point I hadn't realized just listening to the album.

All in all, I don't think it's the greatest album I've ever heard, but it's new Tool that sounds like Tool and that's enough for me.