TOOL - C/D!?

New Tool sounds like Tool. Sometimes literally like Old Tool.

I find it cute that it clocks at 1h19, as though fitting the album onto a single 1h20 CD were an absolute necessity in 2019.

― pomenitul, Monday, August 26, 2019 3:35 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is cute

they're doing thoughtful/weirdo/3D album art again, presumably to encourage physical CD sales, but also because it's fun and why not?

if any 2019 release was gonna purposely shoot for '90s CD album length, this would be the one.

yeah and josh otm this literally just sounds like 2006 Tool but not as good. I'm only two songs in

I'm waiting to listen until I pick it up tomorrow. But do Maynard's vocals feel disconnected given he recorded them after the tracks were laid down? Mentioned the recording process to a buddy tonight & he began questioning if Maynard was an insufferable prick aka maybe the band doesn't even want him in the studio.

They feel pretty well-integrated to me. The problem, as fb said, is that it feels like a rote rehash, like a "new" Tool album composed via machine learning or something.

Yes xp

XP Maynard's laid down vocals separately since Lateralus iirc. This process is not at all new.

But do Maynard's vocals feel disconnected given he recorded them after the tracks were laid down? Mentioned the recording process to a buddy tonight & he began questioning if Maynard was an insufferable prick aka maybe the band doesn't even want him in the studio.

― Wally P. Doyle, Friday, August 30, 2019 1:51 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

why would "insufferable prick" be the go-to here? Tons of bands do this

Liking this so far, mostly for the drums, which are a thing to behold

I can't imagine being a Tool fan and not liking this, unless you were hoping for a massive leap forward.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/homeimprovement/images/c/c3/Tool_Time.jpg

Not getting much out of this yet. These tracks really do not need to be 12 minutes each.

It's absolutely fine, but it really does sound like one of those "surprise!" albums where the real album is followed by an hour of leftovers spliced together from studio outtakes to make a new album.

It's doing a damn fine job as background music between getting work done and procrastinating on ILX.

Oh, I agree, weirdly. I got some work done with it in the background yesterday too!

A tempest. Must. Be. Just. That.

Ok, MJK.

the deluxe package with the booklet and the kinda 3D LCD screen is completely crazy over the top, of course, but also great.

Okay, 7empest is good. Some actual drama on this album!

adam jones was interviewed on chris jericho's podcast and damn if he didn't come off as a sweetheart.

Why is the longest track the least sloggy?

they're supporting Killing Joke on their US tour!

https://i.redd.it/tbq532rdgkj31.jpg

Two Toronto dates instead of a Toronto/Montreal split. Sad!

Adam and Danny both sound so good on Tempest. I'm liking this track a lot.

i like drums

Jaz and MJK would have the worst conversations, praying for their bandmates

the drums sound great but what's up with the super squeezed compressed guitars? too much frequency range taken up by that 100 piece drumkit? I still haven't listened to more than two songs

would describe this record as 'satisfyingly dull'

7empest just began let's see

none of this is anything Meshuggah haven't done way better obv

I listened to an interview with Danny Carey on the Trap Set, it was entertaining enough, but he seemed really stuck on this idea that no one can fuck with them because of the sheer time & rigor they spent on these tunes, four hours a day for 5+ years or whatever. Which is admirable if you can afford to do so, but doesn't necessarily guarantee anything.

(haven't listened to it btw)

Satisfying dull is a good description. Conservative prog.

none of this is anything Meshuggah haven't done way better obv

― imago, Friday, August 30, 2019 1:31 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have yet to have my "Meshuggah moment" because I can't handle the vocals. But I should give 'em another try.

I'm not sure Meshuggah is a remotely comparable band.

this is comfort food. not mad at it. if you like and want tool then here you go. the drums sound good loud, might be enough for me to stay on board.

I'm not sure Meshuggah is a remotely comparable band.

They tried pretty hard to be Tool on obZen.

I'd be a terrible reviewer, I only know it can take months or longer for an album like this to suddenly click for me - if it ever does (but it's Tool, so it's probably gonna)

I listened to an interview with Danny Carey on the Trap Set, it was entertaining enough, but he seemed really stuck on this idea that no one can fuck with them because of the sheer time & rigor they spent on these tunes, four hours a day for 5+ years or whatever. Which is admirable if you can afford to do so, but doesn't necessarily guarantee anything.

on the contrary I don't know if I've ever really loved an album that's been workshopped that much

For sure. He did talk about a drum solo and a guitar solo/jam section on the album that were unplanned, curious to hear those moments.

Descending: "to be or not to be" + Tempest: are we supposed to look for Shakespeare references or are those the only two?

Excellent album. "Pneuma" is an early favourite.

still early days but I'd say the download is better than the CD - not because the interludes are that good but because they break it up a little bit.

pomenitul at 3:28 30 aug. 19

A tempest. Must. Be. Just. That.

Ok, MJK.

Ok I listened to the Cobham-esque track that's a drum solo over a modular synth pattern and I liked it

some sick drumming on this record

there's so much silence

Did you press play

just finished listening all the way through for the first time, Simon is otm about the interludes, definitely some good chooglin' in here, and some sick drumming for sure. good background music for reading

xp I was just typing "is the shiny side of the cd on the top?" but you were faster :-)

Listening to the Trap set episode with Carey, I thought he'd be a little more erudite, he sounds like some 70s burnout guy, with endless repetition of 'maaaan', 'dude' and 'fuckin...' was jarring to listen to.

7empest reminds me of Muse a bit

...until Adam Jones takes us on a ten-minute tour of The Guitar