taylor swift iridescent smoke bombs thread 2019 - lover

People comparing her Twitter to Hillary Clinton! Wow!

"cruel summer", "i think he knows", "paper rings", "soon you'll get better" and "death by a thousand cuts" are all quite good which is enough to put this above reputation for me

"false god" doesn't quite lean enough into its sophisti vibes to work for me, the production lets it down

I need to clear my head with the new Raphael Saadiq.

I'm far more interested in hearing about the Big Machine/Scooter Braun merger than her new album.

https://www.bigmachinelabelgroup.com/news/so-its-time-some-truth

I really want to read more about what Big Machine was offering Taylor to stay, and why she decided to leave. It is weird that Borchetta would be highly disclosive about so many little aspects of closing this merger, but not specific about what Big Machine was offering Taylor to stay. Like, he's posting a screenshot from the negotiation, but he's not getting specific about what Taylor turned down?

wtf is "London Boy"

It's no "American Boy"

Did someone give her the encyclopedia entry for London and say "write a love song about this" or something

"You said you wanted a banger."

"And yet you gave me mash."

it's like raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain on your coronation day

Did Annie Clark really co-write "Cruel Summer" or is it just one of those preventative credits that artists have to give now to prevent lawsuits? I ask cause the way Taylor sings "cruel" is a tiny bit similar to how Annie sings it in her own "Cruel"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvqWLuAUQes

Imagine a alternate timeline where Taylor Swift produces Sleater-Kinney.

It's too early to use my imagination.

I think this is a nice album, though could probably have been pared by a few tracks.

Say, for example, all of them

(I have not heard the album but I cannot resist the easy joke)

Yeah, I expected someone to reply: "pared by to a few tracks."

I'm only up to "Death by a Thousand Cuts" and I already feel like I've been listening to this album for several hours.

That said, none of these songs are unpleasant (though "London Boy" is indeed clunky bit of lyric writing).

I dislike how songs written w/Antoff often repeat elements / ideas... "Cruel Summer" could be "Getaway Car Pt. II"

AntONoff.

That pre-chorus melody that runs throughout "The Archer" is another example

and the bridge of "Paper Rings" (which is otherwise one of the better songs here)

"It's Nice to Have a Friend" is the most interesting track, IMO. How would you describe that musical setting? It's evoking or imitating, what, a certain style of Chinese music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRqZ9pAcwHo

this version of "the archer" >>>> the album version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n0GIzp5uoU

why is the version of "you need to calm down" on this *m*zon ad better than the actual track

that version of the archer is not better than the album version but is very pretty

I was in Target earlier, and bought this CD after passing the display. #normcore

are we at the point yet where target will sell no cd's other than event releases like this (+ a few gospel and ccm releases on one barely visible shelf in the back)

We're at the point where Target will probably soon stop selling cds altogether

I bought this year's Ariana Grande album at Target.

Target also sells vinyl.

Every time I listen to this it immediately sends me down a youtube rabbithole of other, better tracks called 'Lover', which frankly, I'm loving, well done TS!

^I’ve grown to like the track a lot (except, sadly, the bridge). Reminds me of a Neko Case song.

i'm not going to listen to the album because i don't like her music but i liked this interview:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/aug/24/taylor-swift-pop-music-hunger-games-gladiators

finally listened to the title track since everyone was comparing it to mazzy star, am now convinced I've been listening to an entirely different mazzy star

i don’t understand the comparison. “sad beautiful tragic” however

finally listened to the title track since everyone was comparing it to mazzy star, am now convinced I've been listening to an entirely different mazzy star

lol

Maybe they were thinking of the Cowboy Junkies (it sounds nothing like Mazzy Star)

melodically it reminds me a lot of “crazy” by aerosmith

well, that's a ringing endorsement.

“False God” is a standout... it reminds me a little of something from the first Eleanor Friedberger album.

This comparison is probably a stretch but the pitch-shifted vocal sample that plays throughout False God kind of reminds me of the Junior Boys or Caribou circa-Our Love

“crazy” is a great song!

The Mazzy Star thing is pretty much exclusively in her delivery of the first line of each of the two verses, and the guitar too I guess though I agree the guitar is closer to cowboy junkies

I’m slowly coming around to the album. I forgot how great it feels to fall in love with a Taylor Swift song.

I'm finding there's a lot more to this album than "London Boy".

it's a very good record imo. i kinda missed the extreme dynamics of reputation but i'm adjusting to this as a refinement of both that record and 1989 (a lot of tracks here melodically feel like sequels to "king of my heart" and i'm not complaining). taylor in ldr mode never works for me ("so it goes" >>>> "wildest dreams" > "miss americana and the heartbreak prince") but the rest of it is good-to-great outside of "me!" (my worst take is that "you need to calm down" is good as hell). but the material i live for is the between-worlds stuff like "cornelia street," "the archer," "paper rings," "lover" etc. these all remind me of the songwriter who wrote red. "soon you'll get better" is so "the old taylor is back from the dead" that i should feel pandered to but it feels so natural. weirdly my favorite song is probably "death by a thousand cuts" which doesn't sound like any previous taylor swift song, the phasing piano line is a really wonderful touch

yeah I have deleted "Me!" but think the rest is very good and I look forward to getting lost in it and coming out its, well, lover.

I thought I did not like the "Lover" bridge but the line "I take this magnetic force of a man to be my lover" has been stuck in my head for days so I guess I fell for this one already.