TOOL - C/D!?

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What music do you know of that sounds anything like this?

The only thing that makes that piece interesting is the instrumentation and the treatments of the sounds. The actual melodies and rhythms are super basic; any halfway decent large jazz ensemble of note stomps that shit into the ground. Especially since there's no counterpoint or melodic criss-crossing; it's a sequence of discrete musical events.

And yes, I have listened to a shit-ton of Zappa. I even saw him live on his final tour.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 19 August 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

Maynard and Zappa share many lyrical unfunny-joke tropes, but I hear zero other similarities.

If Zappa wrote Ozzy's lyrics in a Sabbath/King Crimson supergroup they might sound like Tool.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

It apparently leaked in a pretty public way on the Toolband subreddit (someone from a distributor (or Amazon?) smuggled out a copy, realized he didn't know how to rip the CD, then met with a guy in Las Vegas who ripped it for him, and now it's out in the open)

StanM, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

The Tool album that is (didn't realize this was now a Zappa discussion, sorry)

StanM, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

realized he didn't know how to rip the CD

I feel 1000 years old.

I've seen links to the leak on various MP3 blogs, but...I don't care.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

I feel 1000 years old.

"What is this...'CD'?"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

"I have a guy in Vegas who can rip it for you. But he doesn't come cheap."

jmm, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

And as for quality, it's a bit of a gamble.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIwR3dN6Id0

StanM, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

And women across the internet breathed a sigh of relief, knowing that a sizable portion of the internet's worst men would be busy for at least 24 hours...

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 25 August 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

what the fuck, man.

StanM, Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

sounds like a Tool album. It's fine.

akm, Sunday, 25 August 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

"And women across the internet breathed a sigh of relief, knowing that a sizable portion of the internet's worst men would be busy for at least 24 hours..."

harhar. this would be more applicable if it was a Red Hot Chili Peppers album that leaked. The biggest Tool fans I know are women.

akm, Sunday, 25 August 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

Xxpost Nope, it's the end of civilization

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 August 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

When the coolest track is the interlude, you're in trouble.

Simon H., Sunday, 25 August 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link

And women across the internet breathed a sigh of relief, knowing that a sizable portion of the internet's worst men would be busy for at least 24 hours...

― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:04 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I know four rabid Tool fans and two of them are women (one is my sister in law)

But please don't let that stop you from continuing to generalize about how gender determines musical taste

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 25 August 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

Waah.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 25 August 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

How about this? Not all Tool fans are douchey Reddit dudes, but a sizable portion of douchey Reddit dudes are Tool fans. Feel better now, neckbeard?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 25 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

And women across the internet breathed a sigh of relief, knowing that a sizable portion of the internet's worst men would be busy for at least 24 hours...

Fuck off. This doesn't belong here

octobeard, Sunday, 25 August 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

I find it cute that it clocks at 1h19, as though fitting the album onto a single 1h20 CD were an absolute necessity in 2019.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 August 2019 07:35 (four years ago) link

there's going to be three instrumental/segue/connecting bits in the digital version that will add another 10 minutes

StanM, Monday, 26 August 2019 07:37 (four years ago) link

they were going to release it as one 90 minute track at one point, apparently

StanM, Monday, 26 August 2019 07:38 (four years ago) link

Ah, never mind then.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 August 2019 07:39 (four years ago) link

New Tool sounds like Tool. Sometimes literally like Old Tool.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

I find it cute that it clocks at 1h19, as though fitting the album onto a single 1h20 CD were an absolute necessity in 2019.

― pomenitul, Monday, August 26, 2019 3:35 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is cute

flappy bird, Friday, 30 August 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link

they're doing thoughtful/weirdo/3D album art again, presumably to encourage physical CD sales, but also because it's fun and why not?

if any 2019 release was gonna purposely shoot for '90s CD album length, this would be the one.

billstevejim, Friday, 30 August 2019 05:28 (four years ago) link

yeah and josh otm this literally just sounds like 2006 Tool but not as good. I'm only two songs in

flappy bird, Friday, 30 August 2019 05:43 (four years ago) link

I'm waiting to listen until I pick it up tomorrow. But do Maynard's vocals feel disconnected given he recorded them after the tracks were laid down? Mentioned the recording process to a buddy tonight & he began questioning if Maynard was an insufferable prick aka maybe the band doesn't even want him in the studio.

Wally P. Doyle, Friday, 30 August 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

They feel pretty well-integrated to me. The problem, as fb said, is that it feels like a rote rehash, like a "new" Tool album composed via machine learning or something.

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 06:02 (four years ago) link

Yes xp

flappy bird, Friday, 30 August 2019 06:03 (four years ago) link

XP Maynard's laid down vocals separately since Lateralus iirc. This process is not at all new.

octobeard, Friday, 30 August 2019 07:30 (four years ago) link

But do Maynard's vocals feel disconnected given he recorded them after the tracks were laid down? Mentioned the recording process to a buddy tonight & he began questioning if Maynard was an insufferable prick aka maybe the band doesn't even want him in the studio.

― Wally P. Doyle, Friday, August 30, 2019 1:51 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

why would "insufferable prick" be the go-to here? Tons of bands do this

Liking this so far, mostly for the drums, which are a thing to behold

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 August 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

I can't imagine being a Tool fan and not liking this, unless you were hoping for a massive leap forward.

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

Not getting much out of this yet. These tracks really do not need to be 12 minutes each.

jmm, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

It's absolutely fine, but it really does sound like one of those "surprise!" albums where the real album is followed by an hour of leftovers spliced together from studio outtakes to make a new album.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

It's doing a damn fine job as background music between getting work done and procrastinating on ILX.

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

Oh, I agree, weirdly. I got some work done with it in the background yesterday too!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

A tempest. Must. Be. Just. That.

Ok, MJK.

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

the deluxe package with the booklet and the kinda 3D LCD screen is completely crazy over the top, of course, but also great.

StanM, Friday, 30 August 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

Okay, 7empest is good. Some actual drama on this album!

jmm, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

adam jones was interviewed on chris jericho's podcast and damn if he didn't come off as a sweetheart.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

Why is the longest track the least sloggy?

jmm, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

they're supporting Killing Joke on their US tour!

https://i.redd.it/tbq532rdgkj31.jpg

StanM, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Two Toronto dates instead of a Toronto/Montreal split. Sad!

pomenitul, Friday, 30 August 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

Adam and Danny both sound so good on Tempest. I'm liking this track a lot.

jmm, Friday, 30 August 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

i like drums

ilxors are still exuberant (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 August 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

Jaz and MJK would have the worst conversations, praying for their bandmates

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

the drums sound great but what's up with the super squeezed compressed guitars? too much frequency range taken up by that 100 piece drumkit? I still haven't listened to more than two songs

flappy bird, Friday, 30 August 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

would describe this record as 'satisfyingly dull'

7empest just began let's see

imago, Friday, 30 August 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link


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