Rolling Metal 2019

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i appreciate your thoughtful response, pomenitul. yours is a good policy to have when it comes to material support of questionable artists, though it's difficult to know where blanket hatred/misanthropy ends and a targeted philosophy begins. i guess bands like Gestapo 666 make it clear but most don't. i own several Satanic Warmaster CDs and can't glean from the lyrics or art anything that would set its politics apart from, say, Morbid Angel or Slayer. a friend of mine is involved in the Finnish BM scene and says that some of those guys' race attitudes which are, let's say, regressive, are not informed by any direct contact with 'others.' so much of it is posturing and it's probably a waste of time to parse it beyond what it purports to be. that said, the english lyric sheet with the recent Nécropole album is unambiguous in its anti-semitism and disappointing as i love it musically.

Yelploaf, Monday, 12 August 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

Is there a link to anything more about the Pr0f0und L0re dude? I keep seeing vague allegations and insinuations pop up on Twitter and in other corners, but I'm not sure I've ever fully understood what was going on there. It's just surprising that Lingua Ingnota would work with the label if there was a lot there, genuinely curious.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

I don’t think there have been any accusations against the label head himself, it’s just that he works with and supports Craig Pillard, who’s a Nazi, and Jef Whitehead, who’s a woman-beating piece of shit, so theoretically, you could find a better label to associate yourself with.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 12 August 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

Okay, I knew about those two, didn't know if there was more. I thought he had finally, albeit way too late to matter much, cut ties with Pillard though.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

I have now heard the new Opeth album. It's definitely the heaviest of the "prog Opeth" records, but it's not in any way a return to death metal, sorry saddos. It kinda reminds me of present-day Uriah Heep at times, though, which is a very good thing (if you haven't heard the last 3-4 Heep albums, you're missing out). Also, fair warning, there's one track with scat singing at the end.

I haven't listened to the English-language version yet, btw, only the Swedish one (which is the one Åkerfeldt prefers).

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

It's quickly become my favourite of Opeth's albums from this decade.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

Yeah, after one listen I'd rank them In Cauda Venenum > Pale Communion > Sorceress > Heritage. (I like them all, of course.)

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

Well now I'm suitably excited for the Opeth.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

I haven't listened to any of their albums post-Blackwater Park, so this should be interesting.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Tomb Mold just killed it at Psycho Las Vegas. Sweet young kids withban oppressive sound.

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 August 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

Good goddamn death metal from California

https://reek-of-putrescine.bandcamp.com/album/the-one-reborn

Avowedly antifascist as well.

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link

a friend of mine is involved in the Finnish BM scene and says that some of those guys' race attitudes which are, let's say, regressive, are not informed by any direct contact with 'others.'

was just in helsinki and stopped into a BM shop (kvlt) and I was 100% expecting them to stock some sketchy records from the minimal research I had done beforehand but was def taken back by the very open display of swastika, anti-islam, etc. patches lovingly arranged next to a large finnish flag. pretty much right in your face when you walk into a tiny shop. charming!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

lol at the tasteful (black) patio furniture in front of nazi hot topic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpbS9_TXgAAXvJX.jpg

adam, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

Much of Eastern Europe (and Finland, an ex-Russian Grand Duchy, sort of counts) takes 'both-siding' to the next level: due to the pervasive influence communist Russia has exerted on its neighbours throughout much of the 20th century, there's a tendency not only to argue that fascism was ultimately just as bad but also, more often than not, to argue that it has something positive to teach us. Putin's Russia is on board with it as well, provided it remains an expression of 'patriotism'. Given how ethnically and culturally homogenous Finland is (and American 14 worders speak of it with infinite longing), there's unfortunately nothing surprising about this.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

Profound Lore update: They've just released the new Diocletian album. Diocletian's main dude is a hardcore racist and general piece of shit.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

Kinda like emperor Diocletian

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

Metal moodz unto fathomless infinity:

https://orisonwrethe.bandcamp.com

pomenitul, Sunday, 25 August 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

Courtesy of the Dutch BM scene that spawned Turia, Iskandr, Nusquama, etc.:

https://amorfatiproductions.bandcamp.com/album/imperial-cult-spasm-of-light

pomenitul, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

There's a new Facelift Deformation album, Cybernetic Organism Atrocities, out this week. They've got a live drummer now!

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1131995627_10.jpg

https://realityfaderecords.bandcamp.com/album/cybernetic-organism-atrocities

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 31 August 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

I like the Witch Vomit

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 August 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

It's fucking great.

pomenitul, Saturday, 31 August 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

Even the new Entombed AD is fun

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 August 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

The new Sacred Reich is good but the Witch Vomit is the only thing i want to listen to.

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

Also gott good call on the Putrescine

Are the left/right guitars being out of tune an aesthetic choice?

Doesn't matter. It rocks

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

Also I like the new Cerebral Rot. The rhythm guitar isn't exactly setting the world on fire, but the leads are reverb drenched nightmares that feel like they are played by the Loch Ness Monster

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

let's try that again

https://youtu.be/VSwI4PUuTZk

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 2 September 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

Adding to the Cerebral Rot praise. My metal AOTY. Particularly love the vocal approach. Spare, buried, reverbed to hell and phasing at times. They hit my reptile brain deeper than say Blood Incantation or Tomb Mold who tend to pack in too many riffs per song than I can handle. Man, from Portland up to Vancouver/Victoria, the PNW has an incredible metal scene.

Yelploaf, Monday, 2 September 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

Also love that new Holocausto track though heads up to the unaware - the recent reissue of the 30 year old debut, "Campo de Extermínio", might suggest ongoing nazi sympathies.

Yelploaf, Monday, 2 September 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

I had to look it up to make sure that wasn't just a crass joke

Simon H., Monday, 2 September 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

xp Due to general subject matter or is there something else?

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 2 September 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link

Metal-Archives.com says "In the beginning of their career, they incorporated a Nazi aesthetic, though they only did that in order to shock people (much like Sepultura, Escola Alemã, and others)." Oh, OK then. Boys will be boys, right? Though I gotta say I don't remember Sepultura's Nazi phase.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 2 September 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

Oh, OK then. Boys will be boys, right?
Esp boys from brazil

Simon H., Monday, 2 September 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

Not at all meant as a joke. Check the insert from the OG press of the album. https://www.discogs.com/Holocausto-Campo-De-Exterm%C3%ADnio/release/5838017

Yelploaf, Monday, 2 September 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

Lovely.

Simon H., Monday, 2 September 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

yikes. only ever had a cd that didn't feature that unpleasantness.

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 2 September 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link

the lyrics on that record are explicitly anti-nazi. metal had a lot of "expose the brutality of this shit world" philosophy going on back then, which imo eventually attracted people who reveled in said shiftiness.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link

Speaking of which, stoked to pirate the new Mgla record

Simon H., Tuesday, 3 September 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link

I mean like here's the song "III Reich":

O CAMPO MENOR SE ENCONTRA EM CHAMAS
DE FOGO E DESTRUIÇÃO
NA FORRE DE VIGIA
SENTINELAS DEIXAM METRALHADORAS DESGUARNECIDAS
AS SIRENES GRITAM ALTO
ANUNCIANDO MAIS UM BOMBARDEIO
O CHÃO ESTREMECE PELAS ATIRADAS
CAUSANDO DOR NO CEREBRO
AWSCHWITZ, CONCENTRAÇÃO DA MORTE
CREMATÓRIOS, ALIMENTAM-SE DE JUDEUS
III REICH, O MAIOR DOS MASSACRES
HITLER, FUHRER DO IMPÉRIO NAZISTA
III REICH

which google translate gives as:

THE LOWER FIELD IS IN FLAMES
FIRE AND DESTRUCTION
ON THE WATCH
SIGNALS LEAVE MACHINERY MISSED
SIRENS CRY HIGH
ANNOUNCING ONE MORE BOMBARDMENT
CAUSING PAIN IN BRAIN
AWSCHWITZ, DEATH CONCENTRATION
CREMATORIES, FEED FROM JEWS
III REICH, THE GREATEST MASSACRE
HITLER, FUHRER OF THE NAZI EMPIRE
III REICH

this is basic-issue thrash "these are the horrors of war" stuff. it's a fair q to ask "why are you so fascinated by nazi shit?" but Holocausto's response, back when they were new, was exactly the "documenting the horrors of war" standard-issue post-Slayer thing which, while not exactly the most intellectually persuasive argument of all time, doesn't automatically read as "they're literal nazis" for me.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link

(also, finally, per Allmusic: "[Campo de Extermínio's CD reissue in 2003 added the bonus track "Massacre," from the Lost Tapes of Cogumelo compilation, and boasted a prominent front cover disclaimer attempting to renounce any anti-Semitic intentions once and for all.]"

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

Fair enough. Dumbasses > Nazis.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link

ok so they were Slayer-worshipping tryhards

kind of a relief

speaking of thrash dumbassery, a while back I picked up the Schizo (ITA) demo collection and discovered several versions of a song called Nazi and Proud. they dropped it from their set by the time of their first album but jesus fucking christ

https://i.imgur.com/zJL666w.jpg?1

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link

I like the Witch Vomit

― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:48 AM (three days ago)

yeah this is alright

j., Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link

New Esoteric album in November. Double CD, six tracks, 98 minutes.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

Mentioned it upthread. HOW DARE YOU steal my funereal thunder.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

the 28-minute opener is supposed to be streaming here but I can't get it to work :/

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/esoteric-share-27-minute-new-single-descent/

Simon H., Thursday, 5 September 2019 04:29 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QjXtrQKf88

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

simultaneously, holy shit at this song and lmao at the hilariously literal cover art

Simon H., Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

Hilariously literal cover art has a grand tradition in metal!

Siegbran, Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

Liturgy keeps on Liturgy'in (which is fine by me)

https://liturgy.bandcamp.com/track/god-of-love

Simon H., Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link


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