TOOL - C/D!?

drummer definitely had the best bio on their website in early 2000s

The one good thing I can say about Tool is that their drummer quietly plays jazz gigs in L.A. A friend of mine, organist Brian Charette, has played with him several times out there.

MJK is far from the biggest asshole mentioned on this board, and yet this band's music is far far better than given credit for here.

I like Tool! they are pretty dumb though

but the riffs.... can't help myself

Or not dumb, but that type of semi-smart that holds itself in high regard that can play out worse than dumb....maybe I relate

the problem with them is that you can never tell whether they figured out the dumbest possible way to be smart or the smartest possible way to be dumb but which one it is will ultimately determine whether or not you are dumb or smart for liking it

the problem with them is that you can never tell whether they figured out the dumbest possible way to be smart or the smartest possible way to be dumb but which one it is will ultimately determine whether or not you are dumb or smart for liking it

― j., Sunday, August 4, 2010

we talking Tool now, or Black Eyed Peas?

By dumb you all are talking about the lyrics right? I never listen to the lyrics. But there is nothing dumb about that drummer. His skills are sick.

yeah, he is amazing

Their lyrics aren't any more or less dumb than most NIN lyrics, which is about where I'd group them overall in terms of comparable execution, nostalgia and atmosphere. Only difference being Tool is way more consistent, where as NIN has slightly better peaks and much deeper valleys.

BTW a Tool & NIN combined tour would instantly have throwing money

I mean....any less or more dumb than NIN lyrics, well your honor the prosecution rests

like I said I do like Tool but musically they are dumb/smart too. they are very skilled at riffs and stuff but I dunno

every musician in the band is skillful at his task and does enjoyable work but their overall musical vision seems to play it very safe, plowing the same furrow in a predictable way

they're fussy and cautious kind of in the way rush is, with the same sort of reputation for / pride in the intelligence of their art, but without even the kind of willingness to evolve and go their own way that rush showed over various short segments of their career

lil too edgelordy for their own good too

i never paid that much attention to their lyrics until a legitimate college English professor handed the students in a class i was in the lyrics to “Aenema” and he proceeded to read them aloud like it was a literary classic.

"Try to read between the lines" or the longwinded "think about it"

i never paid that much attention to their lyrics until a legitimate college English professor handed the students in a class i was in the lyrics to “Aenema” and he proceeded to read them aloud like it was a literary classic


oooohh boy...that sounds painful

painful enough that i sold off my cd collection of theirs not long after! and this is coming from someone that during the video editing of their high school class graduation video in 2001 was trying till the last minute to sneak in snippits from the lateralus album into the tape.

I really like Opiate. Everything after that, I've liked one or two songs but can't listen to the next hour of it.

I love the song Aenema, but literary classic it ain't and I would be so bummed if assigned it in college.

“fuck these dysfunctional insecure actresses” poetry

Opiate and Undertow are great. Everything after ranges from good to dude no

the lyrics are dumb on purpose

"the pot" is an instance where the lyrics are "purposely dumb" enough that it actually ruins the song imo

any time this thread is bumped, it's from people who don't like tool. fun times.

https://static.spin.com/files/2019/07/RRRT_408_GuyFieriMaynardJamesKeenan02_HighRezCrop_CourtesyAXSTV-1562084753-640x457.jpg

fuck marry kill

Honestly thought Guy (that is him, isn't it?) was wearing a Sisters of Mercy T-shirt there.

This new lineup of Chickenfoot blows...

Guy Fieri is actually good

Flavortown is his penis. I get it now

https://media.giphy.com/media/uPfXDfm2QrACk/giphy.gif

Lol

Amazingly powerful Rigs of Dad energy coming from that pic of Guy F Sam H and MJK

Christ I read that as MLK for a second and was wondering what goddamn universe I was in.

Here in the darkest timeline anything is possible

any time this thread is bumped, it's from people who don't like tool. fun times.

I freaking love Tool, and they're one of my favorite rock/metal bands. But I don't have the energy to defend their musicality and artistic merit against the barrage of constant criticism here. They're pop at their core, and write music no more or less "intellectual" than most other pop bands or groups catering to specific audiences and emotional frequencies.

Dozens of other acts are lauded here unironically and enthusiastically with equal or far worse lyrical content. I think perhaps they might not be "fashionable" enough anymore for ILM (if they ever were?)

Yeah, it's probably telling that when I saw this thread at the top of the New Answers page for a few days in a row I just naturally assumed one of the members had done or said something very unwoke

i was a big tool fan before maynard’s response to the sexual assault accusation. i even think some of his lyrics are good (“jimmy”). “aenema” is still pretty dumb

i actually do like tool but only for an hour or so every year or two

New song is pretty damn Tool-y.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DfQMPmJRI

the lack of evolution is almost impressive

Yeah, that's not great - written by a Tool app.

I'm not a Tool connoisseur by any stretch of the imagination, but this sounds gentler, proggier and (in the intro, at least) more reliant on superannuated electronica and 'exotic' downtempo tropes, which is fine by me.

Thievery Corporation is the name I was looking for.

I don't know how many times I need to say I like Tool octobeard

but also they are ridiculous and annoying

like Zappa, who I'm sure they are big fans of

as far as evolution, eh I don't know, they have a distinct sound and they put an album out maybe once a decade at best so why not give people Tool?

I can't really imagine this band evolving in any way that would be good

just like....get a new guitar tone or find a different way to end a song.

lol I'm not sure how any of their songs end!

Band name implies that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

i would like to recommend everyone in this thread listen to the new slipknot record instead (out friday)

i listened to the new song twice and it got "the pot" stuck in my head instead

as far as evolution, eh I don't know, they have a distinct sound and they put an album out maybe once a decade at best so why not give people Tool?

But you've got to give people a least a slight variation or what's the point? There was a definite if not dramatic evolution with each of their albums up to Lateralus (the purest expression of their aesthetic imo), but they seem to have stopped there.