'later years' box set should be announced soon from what I've heard
― akm, Friday, 2 August 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
DSOTM rules but Meddle and Animals rule more.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 August 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link
yeah meddle is where the strongest organic Floyd magic occurs... i love parts of Dark Side but it does seem like they’re kinda forcing the magic to happen a bit. If I were around at the tine I’d probably have an opinion more grounded in reality.
― brimstead, Friday, 2 August 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link
Piper is kind of sui generis. Such a huge soft spot for that record but I have a hard time evaluating it within the context of their catalogue; it was a different band.
I haven’t heard AMLOR since it came out, and I’ve never heard the other late-period records. My idiosyncratic ranking of the rest:
MeddleDark side AnimalsSaucerful of secretsWish you were hereAtom heart motherMoreThe wallObscured by clouds (I know, I know, I’m a philistine)UmmagummaThe final cut
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link
Also there needs to be a nice concise collection of the early studio recordings that weren’t collected on albums, undiluted by album tracks. Am I missing anything important/pleasurable here? At 51 minutes it’s a little long for an LP — if you drop Beechwoods and Seabirds it’s down to 42 and probably doesn’t suffer too much.
Arnold LayneCandy and a Currant BunSee Emily PlayApple and OrangesPaintboxScream Thy Last ScreamVegetable ManIn the BeechwoodsPoint Me at the SkyCareful With that Axe, EugeneIt Would Be So NiceJulia DreamSeabirdsEmbryo
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link
No-one's been able to find "Seabirds" yet, so it wouldn't be on any album anyway.
― How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link
The 1992 CD The Early Years has ten of those and is supposed to be really good sounding.
― timellison, Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:06 (five years ago) link
missing "biding my time" from "relics"
and yeah seabirds is gone forever, the tapes were destroyed, all that's there is the diegetic recording in the film
i really wish somebody would record it with the arrangement used in the film (there's one cover but it's a slow ballad arrangement)
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link
The “seabirds” on this list is from the Early Years box set (1969) — apparently it’s an alternate version of Quicksilver from More, so I can happily dump it. Thanks for the tip-off about Biding My Time. I’ve plonked it on the end, which seems to fit Floyd’s penchant for slightly sore-thumb album closers.
https://open.spotify.com/user/neutralst8s/playlist/75mN0ynWouHybfNcGRHU8X?si=2F9Adp60TdqwW6uqbX0t0A
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:29 (five years ago) link
Piper is kind of sui generis. Such a huge soft spot for that record but I have a hard time evaluating it within the context of their catalogue; it was a different band.yeah it really has so little to do with what they became, it's probably best compared to like SF Sorrow or Os Mutantes
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:41 (five years ago) link
I've got to say disagree with the idea that Piper had little to do with what they became. I think its influence lingered at least up until, but not including, DSOTM.
― How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link
Part of it? Maybe more "Interstellar Overdrive" than "The Gnome" or "Bike," although I think their pastoralism has roots in Syd too (say, "The Scarecrow").
― timellison, Sunday, 4 August 2019 03:13 (five years ago) link
The direct influence certainly lingered - they were doing "Interstellar Overdrive" in concert through the end of 1970 and "Set the Controls" (a Syd-era composition) through '73 - but the shadow stuck around for the rest of their career. Which is maybe a lot of the issue a lot of people have with Syd's relationship with the band; he deserves to be known as more than a shadow.
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:12 (five years ago) link
Wish You Were Here is all about Syd, after all. I never got the sense that Floyd Mk. II wanted him to be forgotten, the blame lies elsewhere.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link
It's not at all about him being forgotten, it's about how he's remembered... which is as a Poor Tragic Loony rather than for his actual songs. As opposed to, say, someone like Brian Wilson, who is certainly well known as a Poor Tragic Loony, but not to the extent that his songs are.
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
For the band members themselves, witnessing Syd's progressive loss of self from up close must have been a traumatizing experience so I get why they decided to underscore that facet of the Madcap in their lyrics ('And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes…'). I haven't watched or read any interviews with them wherein they reminisce about Syd, though…
― pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
And maybe I'm reading too much (and too charitably) into this, but I've always felt like the closing quip 'There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark' is a potentially sensitive take on the overarching theme of mental illness (lunacy having both a figurative and etymological meaning throughout), i.e. the demarcation between madness and non-madness, Syd-led Floyd and Syd-less Floyd, etc., isn't as watertight as it appears.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link
It's much more than about just playing "Interstellar Overdrive" or even "Astronomy Domine" (the first space rock song!) occasionally. Vocals and harmonies (Barrett/Wright) and Syd's unorthodox chord sequences and guitar playing are very influential on the Syd-less band.
I haven't watched or read any interviews with them wherein they reminisce about Syd, though…
Sometimes it seems like they talk about little else! But that could be just because that's the part of their history I find most interesting so seek out.
― How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
Good to know! I forgot to mention that I haven't looked up any interviews with them, period. A rabbit hole awaits…
― pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
(Btw, I agree with you re: vocals, harmonies, chord sequences, guitar playing, etc.).
― pomenitul, Sunday, 4 August 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
i mean, it's not the band's fault that their post-syd stuff was so much more famous than syd's actual stuff. well i mean it is the band's "fault" in that they were the ones who went on to make classic and mega-selling records that have had far more impact on the public psyche than syd's stuff has, and i know there are a lot of syd fans who sort of resent them for that, but i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 August 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
I've seen Wright looking really quite haunted when recalling Syd in documentaries, esp when re-telling the story where they began just blipping over picking him up to take him to gigs.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 4 August 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
Speaking of Wright, a great analysis from Samuel Andreyev!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLEwuo5R-tQ
― timellison, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link
i think that's a little unfair to the band, who really went out of their way to do right by syd. i also think that sort of fan resentment gives short shrift to how difficult it is to care about a mentally ill person.
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:55 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
from whatever i've read it seemed like gilmour in particular seemed to really go out of his way to facilitate syd's solo career as much as anyone could at that point
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
Yes, I think Gilmour really made the effort - the others seem to have been variously freaked out by the whole experience - but then he was playing and singing Syd's songs and (I think) lived across the street from him.
― Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
(many xposts) Missing the 1966 version of “Interstellar Overdrive” and “Nick’s Boogie”
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link
I guess each of those could take up a side and be album 1 of a double. I’ve never even heard them! Which does not rule.
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link
it's nice of andreyev to do, but i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes. i think i'll check out his video on bartok's fourth string quartet instead.
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 23:43 (five years ago) link
The best part of it for me is in the middle where he plays through it section by section on piano. Guy rules.
― timellison, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:08 (five years ago) link
i don't think i could stand listening to anyone talk about 'see saw' for 45 minutes
wow, you've sold out
― mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:10 (five years ago) link
― mookieproof
you knew it would happen one day
― Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Thursday, 8 August 2019 00:30 (five years ago) link
you’ve changed, man
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 August 2019 01:10 (five years ago) link
Borges requested “The Wall” be sung to him instead of “Happy Birthday”
― Brakhage, Monday, 12 August 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link
can anything possibly rule more than van morrison singing the comfortably numb chorus at the berlin wall in 1990
i fucking doubt it
― mookieproof, Sunday, 25 August 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link
Not Victor Borges then.
― Mark G, Sunday, 25 August 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link
Robert Wyatt doing the "Hello..." bit.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link
LATER PINK FLOYD RULES
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 29 August 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link
That set is an abomination
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
I still have yet to hear a note of Endless River.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
I saw that 1987 tour — I was 15, maybe 16 — and it was like going to a Laser Floyd show or to see a cover band. I don't even remember what the album (Lapse) sounded like, and have never heard Division Bell or Endless River, never mind the live albums.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
the finalized track listing of that box is awfully disappointing. No Big Spliff, no Carerra Panamerica (which i'd heard wasn't making it because Gilmour doesn't like it, but still), no Peace At Last (which I hear got pulled at the last minute). All of that would maybe be ok if they didn't want $500 for this. I don't see it selling well, and it'll just make the vaguely curious resort to piracy.
― akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link
and by that I mean: I will definitely download the MLOR remix. I'm sure that's vastly improved (I don't dislike that album as much as others do). The rest doesn't hold a huge amount of interest to me.
― akm, Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link
peace at last = i meant 'peace be with you'
The most irrationally overpriced boxed set in history. They continue to innovate.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
Ahoy matey, etc.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
And also with you.
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link
i'm like the only person who likes the endless riverit's like classic rock ambient
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link
it's like classic rock ambient
― Brad C., Thursday, 29 August 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link
Pink Floyd's Pink Floyd Announces New Project That Excites Fans Extremely
https://classicrockworld.org/pink-floydspink-floyd-announces-new-project-that-excites-fans-extremely/
― Mark G, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:15 (five years ago) link
Really glad Endless River came up here because I too hadn't heard it (except the single which is meh) and it's kinda great. According to wiki Andy Gill called it "faux-psychedelic dinner-party muzak". Like that was a bad thing?
― Ned Trifle X, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:49 (five years ago) link