You are correct (I just copy-pasted from an online translation and didn't notice the error)
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 21 July 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
wow, with today's needlessly vicious, mendacious takedown, Pitchfork has managed to do something I would have never thought possible: it has actually made me want to root for Iggy Azalea
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 25 July 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link
This line sounds like something from that David Foster Wallace book about rap:
Iggy Azalea is not the only current rapper who fills songs with dreary, monotonous references to sex and money, but many find creative, amusing, and even raw ways to write and spit about both.
Even raw, huh? Wow, I need to check out some of these amusing current rappers.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 July 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
Oftentimes I've noticed a clear connection between the ways that arts reporters write about their subjects and methods of abusive control, methods of toxic fandom. Everything the author writes in this article smacks of entitlement, resentment, nudging their colleagues knowingly. Attempting to exert control and influence over an artist's career via a review that is entirely hollow moral judgement about How Iggy Just Isn't Contrite Enough For A Comeback to mask the author's complete inability to actually form and express critical opinions about the content of the music in front of them.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
An inevitable side effect of reviewing an artist’s “narrative arc”
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
fgti otm
― devvvine, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
Didn’t we cancel Iggy Azalea?
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
That was the pitch in the editorial meeting.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
No one has learned a thing from the 2016 election
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
bernie would've won BNM
― j., Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
Bernie would have 9.1
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
A penitent rap album sounds like a blast
― jmm, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
any editor worth their salt would've printed that as
Didn't we cancel Iggy Azalea? (ed: The staff of Pitchfork have not, in fact, "canceled" Iggy Azalea, as proven by the publishing of this piece.)
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
This line made me laugh too, the scolding, disappointed tone: "Name a major artist—Halsey, Snoop Dogg, the cartoon character Peppa Pig—and Iggy has entangled herself in some sort of feud with them." Like gosh, imagine a rapper so gauche & clueless that they would actually feud with other artists rather than support & uplift them. Truly sad.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
I have to think that they think that putting her review second on today's list is a humongous slam.
― maffew12, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
Am I missing something? Did she do something seriously bad, or was she just, like, mildly annoying to some people
The tone of this is like she's Louis CK and has some serious behavior to atone for before returning to the public eye
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
https://jezebel.com/iggy-azalea-is-sorry-she-used-to-be-homophobic-and-raci-1710047844
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
(first thing i found, probably not the best summary)
remember that time Iggy Azalea broke the L.A. Lakers?
― omar little, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
thx karl
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
As a general comment (and without taking a position on Iggy or her shit) -- the tone of that Jezebel piece (“Whoops, sorry I was racist.”) suggests that apologizing is not necessarily a way to avoid being cancelled, which complicates Pfork's demand for "contrition."
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
I thought Azealia Banks was the one beefing with everyone and everything
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
at any rate it should be easy to pan an Iggy Azalea album:
It's difficult to measure how well a song is doing based on flow, lyric choice, subject matter, etc when the voice delivering it sounds like a duck constantly surprised by how thoroughly it is shitting itself.
etc etc
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
lmao
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
I just went to Pitchfork so I could read the review and I got distracted by this bit about Willow Smith:
The latest album from the child star turned Star Child can be pretty in a tuned-out sort of way, but her psychedelic soul music is no closer to showing us who she really is.
wtf why does Willow Smith need to show you "who she really is"?
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
willow smith is 18 years old now. obviously she knows who she is at this point in her life and should be ready to document that in a best selling album that millions of people will listen to
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
for reference, please see my best selling album from 1998, as a 15-year-old, entitled I Will Never Wear Jeans Again, Baggy Pants Are In, Mom and Dad Can Fuck Off
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
The Willow review has basically a single paragraph dealing with "the music" (yes, I'm still on this):
Willow was already getting into guitars on The 1st, but Cole’s influence is clear. He has driven her toward a more atmospheric sound. The music here is competent enough to pass for enlightened but it’s actually illusory. There is nothing tangible to latch onto. Listening closely feels like trying to identify solid objects when wandering through a fog, particularly on “Like a Bird” and “U KNOW,” which both seem to blur until they’re out of focus.
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
I mean, Iggy was problematic from day one and we all fuckin saw it, it's just the tenor of media changed to where that became the defining narrative as opposed to just *part* of the narrative
It's entirely possible that Post Malone, a white dorkus malorkus failed rock musician who says "shottas" and "jit" in his Number One songs will be persona non-grat-ta-ta for the next album cycle
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
your lips to god's ears
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
I said this in 2014, but no one listens to me
Iggy Azaelia talks like Nicole Kidman IRL but raps in Young Dro voiceAre we post-racial or just mostly unaware that this is kinda sus?— Christopher R. Weingarten (@1000TimesYes) May 19, 2014
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Despite my statement above, I must admit would very much enjoy reading "dorkus malorkus" in an album review
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
It is absolutely insane that Post Malone, a white man – born in New York, raised in Texas, groomed in Los Angeles – can jack the *FLORIDIAN* AFRICAN-AMERICAN regional slang term "jit" and then casually use it in the Number One song in the country.— Christopher R. Weingarten (@1000TimesYes) June 13, 2018
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
because reviewers still cling to bizarrely outdated assumptions about how music's purpose is to give us a window into the soul of the artist or some such bullshit. I hate this angle, and it's omnipresent.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
subjecting us to the word “nut” 15 times in under three minutes.
^ my favorite line from the iggy azalea review
would never go to this website if it weren’t for this thread tbh
― budo jeru, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
see also related unspoken assumption that an artist's output is supposed to follow some sort of identifiable path toward them becoming/revealing their "true" selves
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link
like, man by the time I got to Dylan's 12th solo album I really felt I had connected with the *real* Bob Dylan and surely that was the reason I had listened to all that music up to that point
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
I'd like to see a musician reveal his/her true self and it turns out they're a shape shifting cat
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
Like Coltrane?
― Evan, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
lol
― budo jeru, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
"Dorkus Malorkus" sounds like the name of a great lost Blue Oyster Cult album.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
I think what the world really needs is a collaboration between the four women reviewed by Pitchfork today. At the very least I'm pretty sure Lingua Ignota can turn Willow Smith to the dark side.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
Did you forget about Jada's metal band?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdbmhTVr8Cs
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:39 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
This is one of the (many) things that bothered me about the piece. Again, I have no dog in this fight, but by following the hyperlinks I learned the following:
1. Halsey drew first blood, clearly trying in that piece to clown on what she viewed as some low hanging fruit, and was imo totally out of line; Iggy didn't take the bait and responded with more maturity and class than I might have if it were me
2. Snoop trolled her about her looks and then called her a bitch when she, err, clapped back. I really don't get how it's Iggy who gets painted with the 'nagl' brush here rather than Snoop
3. This so-called feud is clearly a joke, with both parties clearly benefitting from the press on what must have been an excruciatingly slow news day. The PF reviewer would have you thinking it was some humorless Eminem-wants-to-actually-fight-a-fucking-puppet situation when in reality it was just some soft PR cross promoting new releases
I can't believe I'm on here defending Iggy Azaelia, whose music I'm not sure I have ever actually heard, but this is exactly the kind of review that makes me want to avoid this website
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
You've got them there. Name another major artist.
― maffew12, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
Did you know that Kamasi Washington's pianist, Cameron Graves, was in Wicked Wisdom?
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
Her really damaging "feud" was the one with Q-Tip
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
also setting aside the origins or mechanics of the feuds themselves its just a really dumb thing to criticize a rapper for. Next this goof will tell me that some of the music on some of these rap albums is actually 'samples' of other people's songs!
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 July 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
"Nas has managed in his short career to run afoul of almost everyone: Jay-Z, Young Jeezy, Tupac...even Jesse Jackson! And if that weren't bad enough, there are whispers among those in the know that much of the music on Nas' albums is provided not by working musicians at all but by sampling machines. We can only assume that Nas, the son of an actual jazz musician, was raised better than that. Our advice? Straighten up and fly right, 'Nasty' Nas!"
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
i know this is gonna sound condescending and dickish as hell, but sometimes I wonder if a lot of people uhhhh think they “love” music but don’t really “get” music and don’t experience much actual joy or rapture when they hear it
― brimstead, Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link