I went home when it started raining, so missed the (truncated) set. But the first couple of things I heard were weirdly negative, so I watched the set before bed and thought, hmm, no, sounds like Stereolab! I wish I saw their full set elsewhere the night before. But they'll be back and I'll see them then.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 July 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
even when I became obsessed with Stereolab in early 2016, ETK was the consensus "best," inasmuch as it's a good middle ground btwn their fuzz phase and their lounge phase. only in the last year have I seen D&L spoken of w/o reservation, and that's the first time I've ever read it referred to as their "masterpiece." I mean, it is, almost all of their albums are, but ETK is the only one that sort of shows you the many different areas they explore. Switched On comps are good for this as well but you'd need all three (Aluminum Tunes was my way in: Pop Quiz).
Cybele's Reverie is a beautiful lyric, one of my all time favorites. Even more beautiful in English somehow...
my favorite Laetitia lyrical weighting is the ending of Ping Ping: "Don't worry, shut up sit down / Go with it and be happy"
― flappy bird, Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
ETK is the consensus peak. D&L is the dividing line and also where I got off the bus (for awhile). I don’t like it at all, John Mcentire and mouse on mars et al were a bad influence.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
omg Diagonals is my all time jam - that track at apocalyptic volume is untouchable
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
(and I adored the Lab from the moment I saw the video for "Super-Electric" in 1991)
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link
Alfred, I didn't know you were at the fest! (Unless you mean you watched the live stream?) I had the odd but increasingly common experience (as I get older) of going to Pitchfork by myself and not recognizing a single person I know there.
― jaymc, Sunday, 21 July 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
Just copy-pasting the lyric from "Cybele's Reverie" that I adore:
Que faire quand on a tout faitTout lu, tout bu, tout mangéTout donné en vrac et en détailQuand on a crié sur tous les toitsPleuré et ri dans les villes et en campagne
Translated:
What to do when one has done everything?Read everything, drunk everything, eaten everything?Given everything in truth and in detail,When one has cried on all the rooftops,Wept and laughed in the towns and in the country?
idk I love rhetorical questions as lyrics
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link
I think "en vrac" means "in bulk" not "in truth"
― rob, Sunday, 21 July 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link
You are correct (I just copy-pasted from an online translation and didn't notice the error)
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 21 July 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
wow, with today's needlessly vicious, mendacious takedown, Pitchfork has managed to do something I would have never thought possible: it has actually made me want to root for Iggy Azalea
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 25 July 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link
This line sounds like something from that David Foster Wallace book about rap:
Iggy Azalea is not the only current rapper who fills songs with dreary, monotonous references to sex and money, but many find creative, amusing, and even raw ways to write and spit about both.
Even raw, huh? Wow, I need to check out some of these amusing current rappers.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 July 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
Oftentimes I've noticed a clear connection between the ways that arts reporters write about their subjects and methods of abusive control, methods of toxic fandom. Everything the author writes in this article smacks of entitlement, resentment, nudging their colleagues knowingly. Attempting to exert control and influence over an artist's career via a review that is entirely hollow moral judgement about How Iggy Just Isn't Contrite Enough For A Comeback to mask the author's complete inability to actually form and express critical opinions about the content of the music in front of them.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
An inevitable side effect of reviewing an artist’s “narrative arc”
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
fgti otm
― devvvine, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
Didn’t we cancel Iggy Azalea?
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
That was the pitch in the editorial meeting.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
No one has learned a thing from the 2016 election
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
bernie would've won BNM
― j., Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
Bernie would have 9.1
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
A penitent rap album sounds like a blast
― jmm, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
any editor worth their salt would've printed that as
Didn't we cancel Iggy Azalea? (ed: The staff of Pitchfork have not, in fact, "canceled" Iggy Azalea, as proven by the publishing of this piece.)
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
This line made me laugh too, the scolding, disappointed tone: "Name a major artist—Halsey, Snoop Dogg, the cartoon character Peppa Pig—and Iggy has entangled herself in some sort of feud with them." Like gosh, imagine a rapper so gauche & clueless that they would actually feud with other artists rather than support & uplift them. Truly sad.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
I have to think that they think that putting her review second on today's list is a humongous slam.
― maffew12, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
Am I missing something? Did she do something seriously bad, or was she just, like, mildly annoying to some people
The tone of this is like she's Louis CK and has some serious behavior to atone for before returning to the public eye
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
https://jezebel.com/iggy-azalea-is-sorry-she-used-to-be-homophobic-and-raci-1710047844
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
(first thing i found, probably not the best summary)
remember that time Iggy Azalea broke the L.A. Lakers?
― omar little, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
thx karl
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
As a general comment (and without taking a position on Iggy or her shit) -- the tone of that Jezebel piece (“Whoops, sorry I was racist.”) suggests that apologizing is not necessarily a way to avoid being cancelled, which complicates Pfork's demand for "contrition."
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
I thought Azealia Banks was the one beefing with everyone and everything
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
at any rate it should be easy to pan an Iggy Azalea album:
It's difficult to measure how well a song is doing based on flow, lyric choice, subject matter, etc when the voice delivering it sounds like a duck constantly surprised by how thoroughly it is shitting itself.
etc etc
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
lmao
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
I just went to Pitchfork so I could read the review and I got distracted by this bit about Willow Smith:
The latest album from the child star turned Star Child can be pretty in a tuned-out sort of way, but her psychedelic soul music is no closer to showing us who she really is.
wtf why does Willow Smith need to show you "who she really is"?
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
willow smith is 18 years old now. obviously she knows who she is at this point in her life and should be ready to document that in a best selling album that millions of people will listen to
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
for reference, please see my best selling album from 1998, as a 15-year-old, entitled I Will Never Wear Jeans Again, Baggy Pants Are In, Mom and Dad Can Fuck Off
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
The Willow review has basically a single paragraph dealing with "the music" (yes, I'm still on this):
Willow was already getting into guitars on The 1st, but Cole’s influence is clear. He has driven her toward a more atmospheric sound. The music here is competent enough to pass for enlightened but it’s actually illusory. There is nothing tangible to latch onto. Listening closely feels like trying to identify solid objects when wandering through a fog, particularly on “Like a Bird” and “U KNOW,” which both seem to blur until they’re out of focus.
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
I mean, Iggy was problematic from day one and we all fuckin saw it, it's just the tenor of media changed to where that became the defining narrative as opposed to just *part* of the narrative
It's entirely possible that Post Malone, a white dorkus malorkus failed rock musician who says "shottas" and "jit" in his Number One songs will be persona non-grat-ta-ta for the next album cycle
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link
your lips to god's ears
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
I said this in 2014, but no one listens to me
Iggy Azaelia talks like Nicole Kidman IRL but raps in Young Dro voiceAre we post-racial or just mostly unaware that this is kinda sus?— Christopher R. Weingarten (@1000TimesYes) May 19, 2014
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Despite my statement above, I must admit would very much enjoy reading "dorkus malorkus" in an album review
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
It is absolutely insane that Post Malone, a white man – born in New York, raised in Texas, groomed in Los Angeles – can jack the *FLORIDIAN* AFRICAN-AMERICAN regional slang term "jit" and then casually use it in the Number One song in the country.— Christopher R. Weingarten (@1000TimesYes) June 13, 2018
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
because reviewers still cling to bizarrely outdated assumptions about how music's purpose is to give us a window into the soul of the artist or some such bullshit. I hate this angle, and it's omnipresent.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
subjecting us to the word “nut” 15 times in under three minutes.
^ my favorite line from the iggy azalea review
would never go to this website if it weren’t for this thread tbh
― budo jeru, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
see also related unspoken assumption that an artist's output is supposed to follow some sort of identifiable path toward them becoming/revealing their "true" selves
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link
like, man by the time I got to Dylan's 12th solo album I really felt I had connected with the *real* Bob Dylan and surely that was the reason I had listened to all that music up to that point
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
I'd like to see a musician reveal his/her true self and it turns out they're a shape shifting cat
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
Like Coltrane?
― Evan, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
lol
― budo jeru, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
"Dorkus Malorkus" sounds like the name of a great lost Blue Oyster Cult album.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
I think what the world really needs is a collaboration between the four women reviewed by Pitchfork today. At the very least I'm pretty sure Lingua Ignota can turn Willow Smith to the dark side.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link