Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

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Down: La Roux. Sadly, but when the followup finally arrived it was a disappointment.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 10:01 (six years ago)

feel like evaluating some of these would require time spent at college poster fairs and yeah, Target t-shirt sections... I may not hear that much abt Cash these days in my circles cause everyone already knows he's great and there's no need to announce it, but i'd be shocked if that photo of him giving the finger weren't still making new converts and new memes.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:11 (six years ago)

Speaking of La Roux : Ladyhawke had her moment in the late 00s but it seems she has vanished.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:16 (six years ago)

you don't really hear a lot about the band Gryphon these days

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

I wonder about Willie Nelson. Back in the late 70s/80s he felt like a superstar--maybe because my neighbor was one of his roadies. Then in the 90s there were just a bunch of weed and bankruptcy jokes. In the 00s there seemed to be an appreciation forming around his classic albums + new work, but it seems it's just weed jokes again.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:47 (six years ago)

you don't really hear a lot about the band Gryphon these days

― frogbs, Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:17 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

did you before?

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:52 (six years ago)

I think that was the joke

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:53 (six years ago)

gryphon were basically a david munrowsploitation band, right? after he killed himself everybody realized they didn't really like the sound of the crumhorn, they just liked david munrow :(

Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:03 (six years ago)

Campus staff here. I avidly look at the college poster fair each September for just these trends, and my notes from '18 are that there were hardly any music posters, especially compared to TV (Friends, Breaking Bad most prominent.) Bob Marley posters, but those are lifestyle statements as much as music fandom statements.

bendy, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:16 (six years ago)

Has Insta sort of displaced posters

Kids have many ways now of constantly seeing images of those whom they stan

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:18 (six years ago)

I see dudes wearing Cash t-shirts all the time

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:19 (six years ago)

they sell toddler Johnny Cash t-shirts at Target

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:19 (six years ago)

is making a statement as a music fan as much of a thing as it once was? genuine question. like, i feel like the days when everyone wore a t-shirt of their favourite band is kind of over now, and younger people aren't as tribal or pre-disposed to infatuation over a specific band or genre as they once were. seems like they tend to define themselves more by things like TV/movie franchises - Harry Potter or Friends or Anime or something - maybe i'm quite wrong?

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:23 (six years ago)

Someone mentioned that above, too; it’s harder to tell what kids are into via dress/style codes these days

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:26 (six years ago)

Something like a Cash t-shirt or Marley poster feels “classic” and different from, say, wearing a Drake t-shirt. Maybe some do

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:27 (six years ago)

My teenage sister-in-law was recently wearing a tour t-shirt of a rapper I’d never heard of, designed to mimic a Nirvana t-shirt or something — it was very semiotic.

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:29 (six years ago)

Friends posters maybe the most surprising revelation to me! I know it's been on Netflix for ages but it's weird to think that present-day teens would get into that show. I guess the 90s revival is even deeper and broader than I'd realized.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:31 (six years ago)

I had a hip student worker who wore a jacket with patches of the Ramones, the Cramps, Motorhead, Iron Maiden and Bauhaus, though I'm pretty sure she really listened to indie.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:34 (six years ago)

A few years ago I saw the Unknown Pleasures poster next to Bob at the campus poster sale and it felt like a changing of the guards

joygoat, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:43 (six years ago)

Kids really dig the Simpsons as a hip/retro/meme-ish/ironic cultural touchstone these days, which is kind of weird to me because it doesn't feel like it's been away a long time and it's strange to make a meme out of something that's supposed to be a bit post-modern anyway?

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:47 (six years ago)

The Simpsons has never been away, it’s still being produced!

I see enough Unknown Pleasures t-shirts that I don’t even necessarily assume the wearer is a fan... seems like just another of those “classic designs” now.

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:53 (six years ago)

Down: Early Roxy Music
Up: Later Roxy Music


I mean, OK, I’ll take your word for it!

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:16 (six years ago)

you don't really hear a lot about the band Gryphon these days

You do in the circles I move in, especially concerning the new album they released last year: https://www.discogs.com/Gryphon-Reinvention/master/1444681

Line-up:
Acoustic Guitar, Electric Guitar, Producer, Recorded By, Mixed By, Mastered By – Graeme Taylor
Bassoon, Baritone Saxophone, Recorder, Crumhorn, Piano, Vocals – Brian Gulland
Drums, Percussion, Vocals – Dave Oberlé
Electric Bass, Double Bass – Rory McFarlane
Flute, Piccolo Flute, Crumhorn, Soprano Saxophone, Clarinet, Fife – Andy Findon
Harmonica, Mandolin, Violin, Keyboards, Edited By – Graham Preskett

So they're still rocking the crumhorns.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:22 (six years ago)

Graeme Taylor needs to update his wiki

Having spent many years playing guitars in the pit orchestras of many West End musicals, Taylor is now a member of the touring bands for both John Tams and Rolf Harris, and runs his own studio in South London.

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:39 (six years ago)

c'mon Matt you made all those names up

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:42 (six years ago)

It's not a crumhorn prog band without a Brian in the ranks

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:50 (six years ago)

having been to an outdoor music festival over the weekend, these were my takeaways:

* local band that sounded a lot like rage against the machine seemed to have a decent crowd
* liz phair (and liz-inspired acts) doing well, even if she was stuck at a 5pm set time in the blazing sun
* reasonable number of people watching dressy bessy (?!) although it seemed like a lot of the same people i'd have seen at their show 15 years ago
* the entire shtick of crazy shit on stage and spectacle has a mixed reception. portugal. the man were headlining and a younger (early 20s) coworker of mine and some others nearby were confused by instrumental breaks between songs that were covers of pink floyd and metallica. maybe they weren't used to "festival bands" and the whole jammy/play up to a varied crowd thing but the area closest to the stage kind of emptied out by mid-set. some of their shtick was very decade-ago flaming lips and it didn't seem to play with the crowd

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:50 (six years ago)

many xposts to unperson- I’m listening this new Santana- it’s tight!

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:11 (six years ago)

Friends posters maybe the most surprising revelation to me! I know it's been on Netflix for ages but it's weird to think that present-day teens would get into that show. I guess the 90s revival is even deeper and broader than I'd realized.


I’ve seen multiple people in nyc with ‘friends’ shirts this year

iatee, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:15 (six years ago)

feels like we're being trolled

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:17 (six years ago)

Friends is hugely popular with all ages

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:19 (six years ago)

A lot of female psych/folk singers from the late 60s/early 70s have had a real resurgence of interest in the last 10 years - Linda Perhacs, Judee Sill, Shirley Collins etc.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:34 (six years ago)

Since the introduction of the latte (via Freinds, really!) the basic bitch lyfe hasn't changed much right? Pop culture slowing down as noted? Maybe posters have soley become signals for habits-of-chilling - zoning out to Breaking Bad or Friends vs Marley-sized spliff vs dropping acid and thinking about light getting split by a prism vs bumming out alone to Unknown Pleasures.

bendy, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:37 (six years ago)

yeah wait wtf is with the Friends popularity? I have some friends that have watched it multiple times.......... what...........

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:44 (six years ago)

it's actually genuinely liked, right? not sneered at like with Brady Bunch?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:55 (six years ago)

Drums, Percussion, Vocals – Dave Oberlé

This dude appears on Wire's "154", and not many of us can say that.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 16:59 (six years ago)

Just finished watching this clip, which is at least partly relevant to this discussion. And funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwhoykzbhdA

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:01 (six years ago)

it's actually genuinely liked, right? not sneered at like with Brady Bunch?

yeah, genuinely liked... I can’t really think of an equivalent from past decades

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:04 (six years ago)

All my white friends love Wonderwall

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:06 (six years ago)

brady bunch is a fascinating comparison since we are now about as far out from Friends's mid-90s heyday than the Brady Bunch films were from the early 70s, and yet it's sort of hard to picture a comical film using the show to send up those silly ways we were back then, etc. etc. not saying that's a bad thing since such a film would likely be unbearable but i do SORT OF buy the idea that Friends would feel enough like the present day to work as low-stakes streaming TV. surely there must be some political or social-mores disconnects...idk... as far as this thread goes tho, i imagine The Rembrandts' legacy is about as secure as ever

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:09 (six years ago)

xxp The Office

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:21 (six years ago)

the other day I saw three different people in nyc wearing Friends shirts, it was odd

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:23 (six years ago)

when I work out Friends is always on, albeit with the volume off. to me the show is just an endless series of long conversations that end in 2 characters making out

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:24 (six years ago)

there's an Interpol song in there somewhere

the people I know that love Friends are more well-adjusted and happier than me

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:35 (six years ago)

Cheers was pretty much the Friends of the 80s.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:36 (six years ago)

except Cheers wasn't terrible

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:49 (six years ago)

there's an Interpol song in there somewhere

:D

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:50 (six years ago)

saw this advertised the other day: https://www.high-noon.com/event/9325025/indie-jam-500/ -- perhaps of some relevance to the "jam" part of the thread?

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Setlist curated from the following bands:
Radiohead
Violent Femmes
Arctic Monkeys
Arcade Fire
PHOX
Bon Iver
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geoffreyess, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:31 (six years ago)

just want to chime in and say dang this new Santana album is surprisingly good!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:32 (six years ago)

Oh my god Indie Jam 500 sounds like hell on earth

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:37 (six years ago)


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