Boomers ruined Motown. honestly I never listen to that stuff myself, the overexposure in the 80s was intense.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
was there ever a time in which Neneh's legacy wasn't secure?
― quelle sprocket damage (sic)
Reading through this thread from 2003:
T/S: Neneh Cherry vs M.I.A.
makes it seem like she was mostly remembered by “Buffalo Stance”, I feel like her output this decade definitely solidified and updated her legacy, the cherry thing felt like the artistic achievement that was missing in her career at that point imho.
In a similar fashion it makes me think of Scott Walker - which is why I paired them together - “the drift” will be his grand career statement when making retrospectives of his discography.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link
Just overheard Santana and that’s one that comes and goes huh?
In the 60’s and 70’s he was adored but then he kind of had a string of unremarkable albums and was largely forgotten in the 80’s and 90’s, then he released Supernatural and everyone caught Santana fever again, he was once again seen as one of the most legendary guitarists ever. But then... he kept releasing what felt like soulless cash grab rehashings of Supernatural and once again he faded out of public favor.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
however "midnight love" era is probably another story ?
Inexplicably, this never shows up on best-of-the-'80s lists anymore, which is a shame, because it's brilliant.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link
makes it seem like she was mostly remembered by “Buffalo Stance
heh. there's a moderate amount of repping other material, but the thread certainly suggests her legacy was unassailed. "updated" in the last few years is relevant though, yeah.
lol at Idle Idle cameo
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
Johnny Cash had a renaissance last decade with the Rick Rubin albums and Walk The Line, but doesn't get talked about much anymore.
― aphoristical, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
Outkast?
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link
XP Maybe Willie Nelson has eclipsed him now, but Cash is a perennial, "I don't like Country, but I like..." artist.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link
Cash, for too many, has been reduced to "Hurt."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
Yup, and if you find a fan who goes deeper, they probably only fuck with the Rubin stuff and the Prison albums.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link
To be fair, he made, like, 300 albums.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:36 (four years ago) link
OK, 56 studio albums, 11 gospel albums, 9 live albums. There are apparently 98 Willie Nelson studio albums.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link
Totally anecdotal, but Cash is one of my consistent sellers Discogs - especially the 60s Columbias and any Sun stuff. It never stays around long.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link
Willie Nelson people just want mid-70s stuff.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link
every so often i'll be digging in the Willie Nelson section at a local shop and there's another record from the '80s with a garishly awful cover that I've never heard of previously. like i mean i had no idea:
https://img.discogs.com/kJNdrYc-KwmYYaBMuLZvdNJiweE=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4140660-1428972570-3220.png.jpg
― omar little, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
even after his death, idk if scott walker's rep is as high as it was circa 2006's the drift
As a youngish person who got really into Scott shortly before his death, one trend I’ve noticed (if not, especially, partaken in) is an adoption of latter-day Scott by certain online communities as a sort of “hard mode” of music that proves your bona fides if you can successfully get into it, with lots of other stuff held up as lacking in comparison to its sophistication/difficulty. Debatable whether that’s a positive or negative, but it’s certainly a component of his legacy atm.
(My personal favorite, for the record, is a video of some streamer doing a Clone Hero chart of a SOPHIE song where someone in the comments qualifies their praise with “still no Bisch Bosch”.)
― You can’t see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
That Willie & Merle looks like their chillwave record
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link
remove everything but "seashores" and the background image and it's a sick new balearic album.
― omar little, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:05 (four years ago) link
ha ha, both otm
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
Re: Santana Back in the 80s and 90s he used to play yearly in Tucson at the fair and it felt like one of the biggest events in the world for a bunch of different demographic groupsOf course after Supernatural blew up he was too big to play fairs anymore
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link
I remember in the 90s seeing his band perform as “Abraxas” - it was all the usual suspects- Schon, Areas, Rollie... anyway they were great and it dawned on me how superfluous Santana himself was to the whole operation.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link
uh let’s not get ahead of ourselves here, his guitar playing is great! Geez this thread The Abraxas Pool album is one of the worst things I’ve ever heard
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link
Santana's new album is great and has rehabbed his reputation for a lot of people, including me.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
Haha I say it with love - Carlos is great. I assume you’re referring to Santana IV? It was a pleasant surprise.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
Nah I meant this album https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas_Poolhaven’t listened to IV
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link
oh whoops missed unpersons post
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
There’s this one photo I’ve seen used on two separate Willie Nelson CDs... except for some reason they photoshopped a headband on one of them
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link
It’s this one: https://www.discogs.com/Willie-Nelson-The-Very-Best-Of-Willie/release/4134708I SWEAR there’s another willie CD out there with the same photo but sans headband
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link
No, I’m talking about his 2019 album Africa Speaks. It’s wild as hell.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link
jay z down, right? i
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link
xp thanks for the tip, this fuckin rules!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link
I’ll check it out Xp
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link
Down: Early Roxy MusicUp: Later Roxy Music
― it me, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 05:42 (four years ago) link
i don’t really get this thread.. what are the artists who’s reputation is the same
the Reverend Horton Heat
― alpine static, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 06:14 (four years ago) link
i have no idea why but just typing that ^ made me lol
Down: La Roux. Sadly, but when the followup finally arrived it was a disappointment.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
feel like evaluating some of these would require time spent at college poster fairs and yeah, Target t-shirt sections... I may not hear that much abt Cash these days in my circles cause everyone already knows he's great and there's no need to announce it, but i'd be shocked if that photo of him giving the finger weren't still making new converts and new memes.
― Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
Speaking of La Roux : Ladyhawke had her moment in the late 00s but it seems she has vanished.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
you don't really hear a lot about the band Gryphon these days
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link
I wonder about Willie Nelson. Back in the late 70s/80s he felt like a superstar--maybe because my neighbor was one of his roadies. Then in the 90s there were just a bunch of weed and bankruptcy jokes. In the 00s there seemed to be an appreciation forming around his classic albums + new work, but it seems it's just weed jokes again.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link
― frogbs, Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:17 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
did you before?
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link
I think that was the joke
― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
gryphon were basically a david munrowsploitation band, right? after he killed himself everybody realized they didn't really like the sound of the crumhorn, they just liked david munrow :(
― Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link
Campus staff here. I avidly look at the college poster fair each September for just these trends, and my notes from '18 are that there were hardly any music posters, especially compared to TV (Friends, Breaking Bad most prominent.) Bob Marley posters, but those are lifestyle statements as much as music fandom statements.
― bendy, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
Has Insta sort of displaced postersKids have many ways now of constantly seeing images of those whom they stan
― stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
I see dudes wearing Cash t-shirts all the time
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
they sell toddler Johnny Cash t-shirts at Target
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
is making a statement as a music fan as much of a thing as it once was? genuine question. like, i feel like the days when everyone wore a t-shirt of their favourite band is kind of over now, and younger people aren't as tribal or pre-disposed to infatuation over a specific band or genre as they once were. seems like they tend to define themselves more by things like TV/movie franchises - Harry Potter or Friends or Anime or something - maybe i'm quite wrong?
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
Someone mentioned that above, too; it’s harder to tell what kids are into via dress/style codes these days
― stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
Something like a Cash t-shirt or Marley poster feels “classic” and different from, say, wearing a Drake t-shirt. Maybe some do
― stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link