what about Pavement? Neutral Milk Hotel? these bands have regenerating fanbases despite remaining creatively inactive - SY's cultural cache has diminished because of the hit that Thurston's reputation took. he was an elder statesmen in the 00s, now he's widely seen as an asshole husband w/ zero credibility. Kim's book brought the story back into the news in 2014.
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
Pavement and NMH are a) from a younger generation than sonic youth, b) make music that doesn’t sound anything like sonic youth
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 July 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
I think SY had already done a pretty good job whittling down its crossover audience (as such) by the time they broke up. Daydream Nation and Goo have sold something like 170k. Dirty and Experimental Jet Set sold 300+. Washing Machine was half that, everything else a half further, around 60k.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 July 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
I just don’t think their rep took a hit larger than the one that would have naturally occurred due to retirement and tbh SY is musically a much more difficult sell to people anyway as far as a band to listen to, they’re not Pavement or NMH (and yet still they have more monthly Spotify listeners than either).
― omar little, Friday, 12 July 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
How does REM do on Spotify?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 July 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
SY is musically a much more difficult sell to people anyway as far as a band to listen to, they’re not Pavement or NMH
I recognize that I'm not a representative sample but SY have about a half dozen albums I love, I've listened to Neutral Milk Hotel exactly once, and I wouldn't make it through a whole Pavement song without a gun at my head.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 12 July 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
"SY is musically a much more difficult sell to people anyway as far as a band to listen to"
yes, agree with this, even though they were my favorite band for ~20 years
xp
― Dan S, Friday, 12 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
Xp perhaps someone who reviews experimental music and jazz for publications isn’t exactly the listener we’re discussing here
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 July 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
I remember 10+ years ago in Barcelona there was a contagious worship for Rockabilly fashion and Morrissey and french electro stuff like Justice. None of those aged well.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 12 July 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
I stand corrected.
Sebastian, Justice, Uffie and the like have taken a nosedive in recent times.
ha ha, that was a general comment, not solely at your post
pretty sure the decline in Uffie's legacy happened in November 2006 tho
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 12 July 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
Uffie was in a relationship with Feadz and that’s the only reason why she got mildly relevant in the first place. The music on her first eps were very competent for the scene but as soon as she started performing them live (quite awfully) it was obvious she had no talent and got cancelled. Didn’t seem to affect Justice as quickly and they were also pretty mediocre performers... I think they even got caught on a festival with their gear not even connected iirc.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 12 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
My fingers crossed for booming Legendary Pink Dots, Nits, Shelleyan Orphan, Associates and Rasputina threads at the end of next decade.
Don't hear as much Beefheart love as I used to.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 12 July 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
And pray for Laura Nyro too!
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 12 July 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
I predict a considerable drop in autotune particularly in rap music. Autotune will be vaulted as a 10’s aesthetic.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
Also trap beats are out. Trip hop/r&b beats are in.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
I feel like Boredoms are not talked about as much now
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link
With how perfect and sterile most pop/electronic/hip hop production has sounded this decade, I predict the next will try to make it sound “more imperfect”. So yeah, no autotune, use of live instruments instead of synthesized ones and J Dilla’s stock will rise like it did in the early 00’s.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Boredoms haven't released anything in a decade, so I guess out of sight out of mind.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link
oh wait here’s a really good one: amanda palmer/the dresden dolls
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link
P4k gave FOUR good to glowing reviews of these dorks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO5APfKnR50
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4gPZPKJc0s
8.2 for this steampunk horseshit
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 July 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
What the fuck is that shit?
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
Previous video is the second Dresden Dolls song I've heard. The first was 15 years ago. And I only just became aware of Billie Ellish last week.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
RFD: Light-hearted, whimsical indie hipster music that seemed specifically manufactured for Apple commercials
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
hfs, I want to die
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link
ah, the 2000s
― sleeve, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link
crazy times, maaaaan
OK, now I know who Amanda Palmer is (of “amanda palmer’s open letter to robert smith and other crimes” fame).
Amanda MacKinnon Gaiman Palmer[3] (/ˈpɑːlmər/; born April 30, 1976), sometimes known as Amanda Fucking Palmer,[1][2]
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 12 July 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
Fiery Furnaces undeservedly disappeared
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
I mean, ok. we can talk about the grandma albums. but Blueberry Boat is all time
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
It seems to me that 20th c. classical music, including EA, is more popular now than it was 2000-2010.
It wasn't popular then and it isn't popular now, I'm still going to half/quarter empty concerts with the same 20 people in the audience, when there are any actual concerts which is once in a blue moon.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link
Furnaces were not very popular, and they stopped doing their thing, so... :(
― stan by me (morrisp), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
Blueberry Boat is all time
cosign
― sleeve, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
Not a fan of Blueberry Boat. Big fan of Gallowsbird Bark and Eleanor’s recent solo records
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
I kinda liked Rehearsing My Choir tbh
― flappy bird, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:36 (four years ago) link
Of course you did, it's frickin' awesome
― stan by me (morrisp), Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link
Eleanor is still doing her thing, I think she gets some AAA AirPlay now, which the furnaces definitely never did lol
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Saturday, 13 July 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link
You’re forgetting “Clear Signal From Cairo (Bob Clearmountain mix) – feat. Macy Gray & Mark McGrath”
― stan by me (morrisp), Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link
When I first started posting here like 5 years ago y’all were posting like crazy about Amanda Palmer
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link
i don’t really get this thread.. what are the artists who’s reputation is the same
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link
The Beatles
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link
is Brice Hornsby down or up? His new album is horrible and it has bon iver on it.
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link
― stan by me (morrisp), Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:23 (four years ago) link
uhhhhhh really
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:35 (four years ago) link
Uhhh, radiohead’s feels the same?
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:37 (four years ago) link
do people still like blonde?
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link
blondie
what about los lobos? probably no one cared about them in the 00s eitherwhatever, have fun
With how perfect and sterile most pop/electronic/hip hop production has sounded this decade, I predict the next will try to make it sound “more imperfect”. So yeah, no autotune, use of live instruments instead of synthesized ones
Such optimism is contagious.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link
Amanda Palmer's one of those artists whose apparent newsworthiness and media profile have always seemed to massively dwarf any interest in her actual music.
Also I feel like the reputation of a lot of backackerish/conscious rap - Mos Def, The Roots etc - has been gradually recovering for a while after being very unfashionable a decade ago.
There's also been a sense for a while that younger dance music critics are absolutely desperate to move away from house and techno despite their enduring popularity and total ubiquity. The latest manifestation of that is the return of breakbeats to the sort of scenes where they would have been criminally unfashionable for most of the 00s.
(Ricardo Villalobos definitely down by the way but Autechre are definitely up)
― Matt DC, Saturday, 13 July 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link