Which artists legacies have improved/worsened during the 2010s?

Elephant 6 stocks continue to plummet. Even ITAOTS is seeming more like a punchline than a universally beloved classic.

I still think In the Aeroplane Over the Sea is an absolute classic for all time

also will love forever Olivia Tremor Control's 'Dusk at Cubist Castle' and 'Black Foliage'

idk NMH had a very well received reunion tour five years ago

NMH evergreen

I already said this but SONIC YOUTH!

has gone way down

idk NMH had a very well received reunion tour five years ago

― ufo, Thursday, July 11, 2019 11:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

was it that recent? I saw them probably 10 years ago now

the full band reunion was 2013/14, with the Mangum solo shows before that from 2011-13

obviously they're nowhere near as a big of an influence on modern indie these days and the reunion probably helped to dissipate the sort of mystique that had built up around them but i don't think their legacy has really gone down much idk and if so only because ITAOTS was held up to a sort of ridiculous degree

ITAOTS is a crucial & still common beginners' guitar album

Liz Phair’s profile has risen from where it was in the 2000s, thanks to young artists like Snail Mail & Soccer Mommy, the Guyville anniversary / reissue, etc.

xp

fuck that, it is so much more

also, don't know about 'legacy', but Exile in Guyville is one of the great albums of all time

Liz Phair was in a BAD WAY as far as her legacy in the '00s.

Pitchfork:

0.0 (2003)
2.0 (2005)
2.6 (2010, for good measure)

yeah seeing liz phair bounce back has been pretty heartening. i don't even think the 2003 album that everyone hated was that bad, but it definitely had a huge effect on her legacy.

Staind I kinda like the singles, compared w/ like Korn they are def not album artists though ... "Outside" and "Its Been Awhile" are strong IMO, I'd be curious if anyone has any Staind deep cut they think is on that level but I tried to dig in & couldn't make it too far

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 11:43 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

not a deep cut but always had a soft spot for Epiphany.

Up: Rob Hubbard, Martin Galway and Ben Daglish.

More of an early 10s thing than now maybe, but C-64 chip music was an ovbious influence on the likes of Aviici and Skrillex.

From before that really, from Crystal Castles etc in 2006-07 as well. (Now there's a band whose reputation collapsed this decade).

In general videogame soundtracks are a part of pop DNA these days and the reputation of videogame music is up this decade. Just this week Pitchfork published a Classic Album thing about the Ocarina of Time soundtrack, by a proper electronic music writer.

The big C64 revival was around 2001-2004-ish.

Don't think anyone has said Crystal Castles yet, that is quite a plummet

Obviously there was also stuff like 50 Cent's "Ayo Technology" in the 00s (And even earlier stuff from Orbital) but I feel the C-64 influence was even stronger on some early EDM.

Ten years ago I was pretty reluctant to admit liking Slowdive, now the cool kids love em

The single songwriter writing everything all alone is definitely down although this might have happened in the 00s already

It's Complicated: Weezer

Feel like every move from this band gets them more cultural spotlight and more ridicule, like a continuous New Jersey

^I thought on first reading that you meant the state (but I guess not)

Ed Banger and the whole pre-EDM saturated electro house sound is way down on where it was a decade ago imo

“a faddish style is no longer current” /= a specific artist’s legacy

I stand corrected.

Sebastian, Justice, Uffie and the like have taken a nosedive in recent times.

I already said this but SONIC YOUTH!

― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:49 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

has gone way down

― flappy bird, Thursday, 11 July 2019 23:49 (seven hours

They definitely don't get the same amount of critical praise that they got in the late 80s/early 90s, and it would be hard to, but I don't think their stock is lower in 2019 than it was in 2009, and certainly not worse than in 2011? Does anyone still rate NYC G&F as a 0.0 album, for example?

If their stock is lower, it's cuz they ain't releasing new albums we discuss

The only thing is that a lot more people think Thurston is an asshole now

time takes its crazy toll

Throw all his trash away
Look out he's here to stay

I'd also argue that Kim's stock is up, cuz of the book and the Body/Head releases

Interesting, though - I remembered it being earlier than 2007 when nabisco wrote this in Pitchfor0:

Indie fans love Daydream Nation because loving stuff like Daydream Nation is part of how we define what indie fans are.

*Pitchfork

I’ve never known it to be true for that particular album, but whatever

(Maybe N. meant “rock critics”?)

Thurston Moore always came across to me as a 16 year old who scrawls anarchy signs in his school notebook trapped in the body of an aging man.

I guess they've split up now so it's academic - (from Wiki)

In August 2014 Isis changed their name on Facebook to "Isis the band" in order to avoid any confusion with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.[40] The band reunited for a one-off show in October 2018 under the name 'Celestial' at a benefit for the family of Caleb Scofield, the Cave In frontman who died in a road accident seven months earlier.

with SY it's not only the band breaking up, it's Kim + Thurston's acrimonious divorce. in the 00s they were patron saints for indie and noise music, Thurston had Ecstatic Peace, all of the new weird america bands or whatever (cf. that poll whiney made) owed a debt to SY, Daydream Nation was the A1 indie rock record. Kim + Thurston's marriage was an art weirdo fairy tale - when that collapsed, so did their credibility.

man I love daydream narion

nation

My challop: Daydream Nation is good.

It’s great

Sonic Youth remains one of the best american rock bands of the past 50 years

there are some great SY albums but their cultural cache has collapsed

so has the cultural cache of indie rock in general, though